Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXXVIII Off-Season Edition)

[arsenal6106]

Okay, going to bed. I'll post updated stats tomorrow arsenal.

I'm up. Going to sleep in an hour, so I might have to end this before it gets to 100 pages.

[BlueMagician]

I love staying up all night in this thread like something is going to happen at 3am haha

Just get drunk like me and wait for Ping to tweet something. Never fails.

[rcklsscognition]

From what I understand, cap wise, the deal can still be done with Houston. We may lose out on sending all our bad contracts to Houston, but the Rockets may be more desperate for Dwight nnow that they have a legitimate PG, so getting a better deal should be possible.

Rockets have about 8 Mil in contracts outside of Kmart, asik,Lin. Add 16.6 for asik and Lin, you're at 24.4. That gives them 34 mil to work with plus their mle. So d12/hedo/jrich/duhon is 40 mil, wont work, but d12/hero/duhon or d12/jrich/bbd would too. Many options.

They would be sending us K-Mart.....

Yes, that is assumed in my post. Easy way to analyze what we can send in a trade is start at the cap, 58.04 mil. Subtract their 8 mil in existings. Lin and Asik will be 8.3 mil each if signed. We could send more than 34 depending on what rooks and contracts we get back in addition to Kmart.

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

I would do this trade Nelson for Nolan Smith. Portland just got rid of Felton, they need a vet pg like Nelson to influence Damian.

and we need a younger solid pg in Nolan Smith.

Rob do it!!!

check his latest gamelog: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6471/nolan-smith

[MrOrlando]

Doesn't the Knicks have another couple days to match the Rockets offer on Lin? I can't believe they wouldn't match considering how important he was to the franchise last season. I believe they got the paperwork Saturday, so they have until Tuesday to match. It'll be an interesting couple of days that's for sure.

Either way, Houston is going to want to pair Lin up with Dwight even more if the Knicks do not match. It'll be interesting to see what happens, even if they can't take back a big contract, it'd still get two big ones off of Orlando's books, which is much better than nothing at all.

Still hoping for Lamb/Toronto-Houston's #1's/K-Mart/Rookie. That'd be really nice.

[davngab]

And traded Ryno for the Jalapeno on a steeeeeck.

And told the Nets to suck it! Sometimes the biggest move is no move.

This was our best move.

And you totally missed that one, I said it like that to be funny, not to criticize the move.

Haha sorry mate, I was actually being serious.

[The Effect]

Am i the only one who think that if the rockets get both lin and asik, it might make them try to get dwight even more?

I mean they might think that
A) They have the makings of a team that can compete THIS YEAR with a star player like dwight
B) They now have enough good players that they can afford to gamble on giving up prospects
C) getting guys around him like that and competing this upcoming year might convince him to stay

[rcklsscognition]

Doesn't the Knicks have another couple days to match the Rockets offer on Lin? I can't believe they wouldn't match considering how important he was to the franchise last season. I believe they got the paperwork Saturday, so they have until Tuesday to match. It'll be an interesting couple of days that's for sure.

Either way, Houston is going to want to pair Lin up with Dwight even more if the Knicks do not match. It'll be interesting to see what happens, even if they can't take back a big contract, it'd still get two big ones off of Orlando's books, which is much better than nothing at all.

Still hoping for Lamb/Toronto-Houston's #1's/K-Mart/Rookie. That'd be really nice.

Though choice. 5 mil per for two years than jumps to 14, they be paying big tax that year if they can't or don't move contracts. I'd match, they can make the money to cover the tax with Lin being there for these two cheaper years. You can always move someone in yr3

[BlueMagician]

Doesn't the Knicks have another couple days to match the Rockets offer on Lin? I can't believe they wouldn't match considering how important he was to the franchise last season. I believe they got the paperwork Saturday, so they have until Tuesday to match. It'll be an interesting couple of days that's for sure.

Either way, Houston is going to want to pair Lin up with Dwight even more if the Knicks do not match. It'll be interesting to see what happens, even if they can't take back a big contract, it'd still get two big ones off of Orlando's books, which is much better than nothing at all.

Still hoping for Lamb/Toronto-Houston's #1's/K-Mart/Rookie. That'd be really nice.

I thought Lin would be matched, but why would the Knicks trade for Felton with Kidd already on the roster? It's not like one of the three can play SG and are interchangeable. Just based on the Felton trade, I have to believe the Knicks are not planning to match now. The only logical explaination for the Knicks to match now would be to use Lin as a trade chip at the deadline. Otherwise, Lin is going to the Rockets.

[thelead]

Am i the only one who think that if the rockets get both lin and asik, it might make them try to get dwight even more?

I mean they might think that
A) They have the makings of a team that can compete THIS YEAR with a star player like dwight
B) They now have enough good players that they can afford to gamble on giving up prospects
C) getting guys around him like that and competing this upcoming year might convince him to stay

Doubtful because they are no longer players in getting a star to convince Dwight to stay.

[MAGICian619]

Am i the only one who think that if the rockets get both lin and asik, it might make them try to get dwight even more?

I mean they might think that
A) They have the makings of a team that can compete THIS YEAR with a star player like dwight
B) They now have enough good players that they can afford to gamble on giving up prospects
C) getting guys around him like that and competing this upcoming year might convince him to stay

Lin maybe, but getting Asik as well will likely only complicate things or make the deal worse for us.

[thelead]

Doesn't the Knicks have another couple days to match the Rockets offer on Lin? I can't believe they wouldn't match considering how important he was to the franchise last season. I believe they got the paperwork Saturday, so they have until Tuesday to match. It'll be an interesting couple of days that's for sure.

Either way, Houston is going to want to pair Lin up with Dwight even more if the Knicks do not match. It'll be interesting to see what happens, even if they can't take back a big contract, it'd still get two big ones off of Orlando's books, which is much better than nothing at all.

Still hoping for Lamb/Toronto-Houston's #1's/K-Mart/Rookie. That'd be really nice.

I thought Lin would be matched, but why would the Knicks trade for Felton with Kidd already on the roster? It's not like one of the three can play SG and are interchangeable. Just based on the Felton trade, I have to believe the Knicks are not planning to match now. The only logical explaination for the Knicks to match now would be to use Lin as a trade chip at the deadline. Otherwise, Lin is going to the Rockets.

Jason can play at the 2. They let Fields go, so I can see them still matching and having a backcourt rotation of:

Lin/Felton
JR/Kidd

Do they still have BDavis?

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

Donatas/Ayon/Kyle
Drew/Jones/Kyle/Harp
K-mart/Parson/Harp
Lamb/JJ/Q
Nolan/Douglas/Wayns

-Rebuild-

[rcklsscognition]

Am i the only one who think that if the rockets get both lin and asik, it might make them try to get dwight even more?

I mean they might think that
A) They have the makings of a team that can compete THIS YEAR with a star player like dwight
B) They now have enough good players that they can afford to gamble on giving up prospects
C) getting guys around him like that and competing this upcoming year might convince him to stay

Doubtful because they are no longer players in getting a star to convince Dwight to stay.

Lin is going to be the key to Dwight winning a ring? Asik?
Phone got me to quote lead, should have just been the effect.

[BlueMagician]

Doesn't the Knicks have another couple days to match the Rockets offer on Lin? I can't believe they wouldn't match considering how important he was to the franchise last season. I believe they got the paperwork Saturday, so they have until Tuesday to match. It'll be an interesting couple of days that's for sure.

Either way, Houston is going to want to pair Lin up with Dwight even more if the Knicks do not match. It'll be interesting to see what happens, even if they can't take back a big contract, it'd still get two big ones off of Orlando's books, which is much better than nothing at all.

Still hoping for Lamb/Toronto-Houston's #1's/K-Mart/Rookie. That'd be really nice.

I thought Lin would be matched, but why would the Knicks trade for Felton with Kidd already on the roster? It's not like one of the three can play SG and are interchangeable. Just based on the Felton trade, I have to believe the Knicks are not planning to match now. The only logical explaination for the Knicks to match now would be to use Lin as a trade chip at the deadline. Otherwise, Lin is going to the Rockets.

Jason can play at the 2. They let Fields go, so I can see them still matching and having a backcourt rotation of:

Lin/Felton
JR/Kidd

Do they still have BDavis?

Baron is an UFA. Shumpert and JR will be the SG's and Melo can fill in big lineups. I have never seen Kidd play the SG position. In Dallas, Terry would play off and Kidd would be point and in Jersey, VC was SG. I'm sure he can fill the posistion if he had to, but Kidd is a pure PG.

[AussieMagicFan]

I love staying up all night in this thread like something is going to happen at 3am haha

LOL, well being in Melbourne it is 5:15pm at the moment so I have plenty of time and want news dammit!

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

What can Ayon do in a single game, Just watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rl1a2Dx ... re=related

[BlueMagician]

Donatas/Ayon/Kyle
Drew/Jones/Kyle/Harp
K-mart/Parson/Harp
Lamb/JJ/Q
Nolan/Douglas/Wayns

-Rebuild-

Just curious, how old are you?

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

Donatas/Ayon/Kyle
Drew/Jones/Kyle/Harp
K-mart/Parson/Harp
Lamb/JJ/Q
Nolan/Douglas/Wayns

-Rebuild-

Just curious, how old are you?

why dont ask your mom?

[BlueMagician]

Donatas/Ayon/Kyle
Drew/Jones/Kyle/Harp
K-mart/Parson/Harp
Lamb/JJ/Q
Nolan/Douglas/Wayns

-Rebuild-

Just curious, how old are you?

why dont ask your mom?

She said 14. Is she right?