Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues

[PrimeThyme]

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Murray is one of the most underrated young players in the league imo.

[Xatticus]

I was gonna say that Vuc seemed to get distracted from the box-out because he turned to protect the rim. It was a bad play, but I don’t think his effort was at fault here. (I also don’t think it was THAT bad a play.)

Unfortunately... that's Vucevic.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2768585-a-gentlemans-guide-to-the-nba-when-nba-players-agree-to-take-plays-off

As someone that wastes far too much of his time watching this team play after the season is lost and the game threads have shrunk down to a few pages, I can tell you that Vuc doesn't go. He takes the path of least resistance as often as he can. That's something that you can probably abide if you are winning games, but it is intolerable when you are entrenched at the bottom of the standings.

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Murray is one of the most underrated young players in the league imo.

Interesting he trails 3 players that are all younger than him by 2-3 years.

[pepe1991]

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Murray is one of the most underrated young players in the league imo.

Interesting he trails 3 players that are all younger than him by 2-3 years.

Murray... my hidden gem i wanted on Magic forever , not any hidden any more

[BadMofoPimp]

I was gonna say that Vuc seemed to get distracted from the box-out because he turned to protect the rim. It was a bad play, but I don’t think his effort was at fault here. (I also don’t think it was THAT bad a play.)

Unfortunately... that's Vucevic.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2768585-a-gentlemans-guide-to-the-nba-when-nba-players-agree-to-take-plays-off

As someone that wastes far too much of his time watching this team play after the season is lost and the game threads have shrunk down to a few pages, I can tell you that Vuc doesn't go. He takes the path of least resistance as often as he can. That's something that you can probably abide if you are winning games, but it is intolerable when you are entrenched at the bottom of the standings.

We could say that about every single player on this team multiple times every single game.

[pepe1991]

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Murray is one of the most underrated young players in the league imo.

Indeed. He is only 8 months older than Isaac, crazy upside. Perfect size for PG , can shoot lights out.
When he had career night against Blazers he scored 38 points on 19 shots

[Def Swami]

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[PrimeThyme]

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Murray is one of the most underrated young players in the league imo.

Indeed. He is only 8 months older than Isaac, crazy upside. Perfect size for PG , can shoot lights out.
When he had career night against Blazers he scored 38 points on 19 shots

His offensive upside is insane. He will have to get better defensively (-2.0 dbpm for his career, 114 drtg), but if he can ever even become an average defensive player in this league he will be an All-NBA and all-star guy for years to come.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Huh?

Vucevic and Gordon were both guarding perimeter for a split second, Gordon ran out to cover Simmons who might have gotten the ball back. Vucevic had like 2-3 seconds to box out Embiid and didn't.

This one bad play is from a preseason game right? And not game 7 of the NBA finals.

Also ill raise you one "huh?". Gordon wasnt running out to guard anyone least of all Simmons, he was caught in no mans land between DJ and JI as simmons sidestepped back to the top if the key...unguarded.
Vuc clearly didnt make proper contact with Embiid, and AG was doing nothing. Really that whole sequence was a team wide defensive breakdown, but of course guess who gets the blame.

While this isnt the case with your particukzr post, Like I said earlier people are likely to keep bitching and magnify mistakes while ignoring all the positives of players they dont like then they'll obviously incessantly complain about it like little girls.

If anyone wonders why the quality of the game threads has gone down you can pretty much narrow it down to a handful of people.

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How was Gordon not picking up Simmons?

The quality in game threads has gone down because your guy gets called out all the time for his lazy plays. The fact that you and drsd can even say that play is on anyone besides Vuc is unreal lol. Defend him to the death bro.

Did you even read my entire post? Im not "defending anyone to death" I'm pointing out that in the one play from our first preseason game that everyone is up in arms about was a defensive breakdown by a few guys on the court not just one player.


Again...nobody stops Simmons, Nik doesn't properly make contact with Embiid on the box out, and AG has his thumb up his ass.

There is an obvious hypocrisy on this board which is all ive ever pointed out where you and a few others magnify mistakes vuc makes while pretending he does nothing good and ignoring the mistakes made by the players you like, which is frankly horseshitte.. Hes not the reason we lose games as much as maybe you want it to be the case.

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Anyone think Pat McCaw would be a good pick up?

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i see vuc disdain still driving real gm traffic.

[Blue_and_Whte]

This one bad play is from a preseason game right? And not game 7 of the NBA finals.

Yes, but it's something that's been repeated season after season which is why its a concern. If it was the first time it was happening it wouldn't be.

Players only play 20ish minutes in a pre-season game and are supposed to be building habits. There's not really any excuse in my opinion not to try. Saying 'it doesn't matter, it's preseason' renders the whole concept of preseason pointless.I didnt say it was all pointless, but its clear people are overreacting in an effort to push and agenda that puts the blame one player.

Also we havent had good defense from any position for a few years. Not just at the center position. Matter of fact even with Biyombo and ibaka our defense looked bad, our offense even worse.

Also ill raise you one "huh?". Gordon wasnt running out to guard anyone least of all Simmons, he was caught in no mans land between DJ and JI as simmons sidestepped back to the top if the key...unguarded.
Vuc clearly didnt make proper contact with Embiid, and AG was doing nothing. Really that whole sequence was a team wide defensive breakdown, but of course guess who gets the blame.

Defensive breakdowns can be forgiven if they are accidental and not down to effort. Your starting center repeatedly being too lazy to even perform the most basic tasks can't (especially when you're only playing 20 minutes) IMO.

There was no-one except Embiid to box out on that play. Vuc was marking him and half-assed the box out, leading to him getting the putback. Not getting the rebound is on Vuc. Again, Vuc didnt make proper contact on Embiid after taking his eyes off of him, but he was,t the only player who failed to defend that play. It starts with allowing Simmons to prance into the lane, AG just standing around, then Nik not boxing out.

While this isnt the case with your particukzr post, Like I said earlier people are likely to keep bitching and magnify mistakes while ignoring all the positives of players they dont like then they'll obviously incessantly complain about it like little girls.

I've said in my critique of Vuc that I think he's a good player on the offensive end, despite not really fitting the modern NBA all that well. However I don't think it's 'complaining about it like a little girl' to expect your starting center (who is meant to be a leader) to try hard defensively. By not doing so he negates any positive effect he has offensively. I dont think expecting a starting center to try hard is either, but it goes beyond critiquing one play in this,case. Its ignoring all involved in an effort to place blame on one player

If anyone wonders why the quality of the game threads has gone down you can pretty much narrow it down to a handful of people.

You're calling people little girls and complaining about the quality of threads in the same post. People in glass houses and all that.

I clearly said the quality of the GAME threads and then gave my opinion.



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[PennytoShaq]

JI asked about ankle and he totally downplayed it. Says he sat down “because its preseason”. Said he stepped on Sarics foot.

Good news.

[basketballRob]

JI asked about ankle and he totally downplayed it. Says he sat down “because its preseason”. Said he stepped on Sarics foot.

Good news.

Did he practice yesterday, I didn't make it down there to watch.

[woosah]

article coming....

We have observed since last trade deadline. Hell, we have observed for 6 years. The mob is forming. Coach Cliff they aren't buy what you are selling. oh noez

[woosah]

I was gonna say that Vuc seemed to get distracted from the box-out because he turned to protect the rim. It was a bad play, but I don’t think his effort was at fault here. (I also don’t think it was THAT bad a play.)

Unfortunately... that's Vucevic.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2768585-a-gentlemans-guide-to-the-nba-when-nba-players-agree-to-take-plays-off

As someone that wastes far too much of his time watching this team play after the season is lost and the game threads have shrunk down to a few pages, I can tell you that Vuc doesn't go. He takes the path of least resistance as often as he can. That's something that you can probably abide if you are winning games, but it is intolerable when you are entrenched at the bottom of the standings.

We could say that about every single player on this team multiple times every single game.

You like to troll but this may be the realest thing you posted on this board.

We will keep playing wack-a-mole and zeroing in on one, only to have another thing pop up once we dealt with that. We will wack them all eventually. I guess.

[nemesis37]

The Isaac sprained ankle gives me a lot of concern about it. If not well healed it will hunt him again this season and i expect big things from Isaac this season.

[Furinkazan]

The Isaac sprained ankle gives me a lot of concern about it. If not well healed it will hunt him again this season and i expect big things from Isaac this season.

look at the bright side
at least there will be an excuse to why he didnt show big things this season and there will be even more hype for the next one

[PrimeThyme]

The Isaac sprained ankle gives me a lot of concern about it. If not well healed it will hunt him again this season and i expect big things from Isaac this season.

Nemesis did you make a new account?

[Knightro]

Anyone think Pat McCaw would be a good pick up?

Not really.

Don't see a place for him here minutes wise to play immediately. He's not better than Fournier, Ross or Simmons. On top of that, he's not really a tremendously better prospect worth developing over Frazier and Iwundu.

He regressed last year playing with the best talent in the league. Not a great sign.