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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1361 » by drsd » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:29 am

Bakomagic wrote:I’d rather have a guy who can shoot average from 3
And be Elite at drawing fouls than the other way around.



This guy's game does seem to be what fans want:

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He shoots 36.3% over his career with the long-ball, and was 35.5% this year.




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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1362 » by pepe1991 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:44 am

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Bakomagic wrote:I’d rather have a guy who can shoot average from 3
And be Elite at drawing fouls than the other way around.



This guy's game does seem to be what fans want:

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He shoots 36.3% over his career with the long-ball, and was 35.5% this year.




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He is one of most prolific offensive players ever. Every fan should want that type of offensive powerhouse :dontknow:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1363 » by MagicStarwipe » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:46 am

pepe1991 wrote:
drsd wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:I’d rather have a guy who can shoot average from 3
And be Elite at drawing fouls than the other way around.



This guy's game does seem to be what fans want:

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He shoots 36.3% over his career with the long-ball, and was 35.5% this year.




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He is one of most prolific offensive players ever. Every fan should want that type of offensive powerhouse :dontknow:


Except for in the playoffs when his gimmicks don't work as well.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1364 » by pepe1991 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:09 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
drsd wrote:

This guy's game does seem to be what fans want:

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He shoots 36.3% over his career with the long-ball, and was 35.5% this year.




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He is one of most prolific offensive players ever. Every fan should want that type of offensive powerhouse :dontknow:


Except for in the playoffs when his gimmicks don't work as well.


His "shortommings" in playoffs are overexerted. He almost beat strongest nba team ( ever? ) in Warriors , team that swept first, gentelment swept second and swept nba finals series.

2019- once again, lost to Warriors ,team that would probably won championship if they didn't lose 3 of 5 starters later.

2017 lost against Kawhi, Aldrige, Tony Parker... Rockets second best scorer was Trevor Ariza and Ryan Anderson was starter.


Let's be fair, Harden as solo star, after OKC never had horses to win nba title. His "shortcommings" are blown out of proportion , just like his "shooting issues". Guy gives 30 points on 56% TS ( at worst).
Is he perfect offensive player? No. But he is close to perfect. I mean, talking about offense only, there really isn't anybody better than him today playing BBall. Rockets always invest waaaayy too much money in his declining co-stars like Paul and Westbrook ( or overpay Capela). But that's not his fault. Trash defender- yes. Crazy talented scorer- no doubt.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1365 » by drsd » Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:31 am

drsd wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:I’d rather have a guy who can shoot average from 3
And be Elite at drawing fouls than the other way around.



This guy's game does seem to be what fans want:

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He shoots 36.3% over his career with the long-ball, and was 35.5% this year.




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Interesting Youtube on this:

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1367 » by MagicStarwipe » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:08 am

pepe1991 wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
He is one of most prolific offensive players ever. Every fan should want that type of offensive powerhouse :dontknow:


Except for in the playoffs when his gimmicks don't work as well.


His "shortommings" in playoffs are overexerted. He almost beat strongest nba team ( ever? ) in Warriors , team that swept first, gentelment swept second and swept nba finals series.

2019- once again, lost to Warriors ,team that would probably won championship if they didn't lose 3 of 5 starters later.

2017 lost against Kawhi, Aldrige, Tony Parker... Rockets second best scorer was Trevor Ariza and Ryan Anderson was starter.


Let's be fair, Harden as solo star, after OKC never had horses to win nba title. His "shortcommings" are blown out of proportion , just like his "shooting issues". Guy gives 30 points on 56% TS ( at worst).
Is he perfect offensive player? No. But he is close to perfect. I mean, talking about offense only, there really isn't anybody better than him today playing BBall. Rockets always invest waaaayy too much money in his declining co-stars like Paul and Westbrook ( or overpay Capela). But that's not his fault. Trash defender- yes. Crazy talented scorer- no doubt.


He had a pretty good squad around him in 2018. I dislike when people call him one of the greatest offensive players ever because his numbers drop in the postseason unlike the true greats of the game. He's gifted and skilled, but he's also the most gimmicky player in the league. Playing for fouls all game doesn't work in the playoffs.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1368 » by pepe1991 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:37 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:
Except for in the playoffs when his gimmicks don't work as well.


His "shortommings" in playoffs are overexerted. He almost beat strongest nba team ( ever? ) in Warriors , team that swept first, gentelment swept second and swept nba finals series.

2019- once again, lost to Warriors ,team that would probably won championship if they didn't lose 3 of 5 starters later.

2017 lost against Kawhi, Aldrige, Tony Parker... Rockets second best scorer was Trevor Ariza and Ryan Anderson was starter.


Let's be fair, Harden as solo star, after OKC never had horses to win nba title. His "shortcommings" are blown out of proportion , just like his "shooting issues". Guy gives 30 points on 56% TS ( at worst).
Is he perfect offensive player? No. But he is close to perfect. I mean, talking about offense only, there really isn't anybody better than him today playing BBall. Rockets always invest waaaayy too much money in his declining co-stars like Paul and Westbrook ( or overpay Capela). But that's not his fault. Trash defender- yes. Crazy talented scorer- no doubt.


He had a pretty good squad around him in 2018. I dislike when people call him one of the greatest offensive players ever because his numbers drop in the postseason unlike the true greats of the game. He's gifted and skilled, but he's also the most gimmicky player in the league. Playing for fouls all game doesn't work in the playoffs.


He averages 30 points, 6 rebounds and 8 assists in last 3 years of playoffs.
His 2018 playoff team was nice team. But come on, Durant, Klay, Green and Steph. They pushed them to 7 games. That's something. Especially if you see how same Warriors rolled over everybody else that year.

He scores around 8- 9 points a game from FT line witch still maens he gets 20 points by simply -scoring.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1369 » by The Effect » Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:07 pm

drsd wrote:
The Effect wrote:Would you consider Danny green and elite player\scorer? George hill? Kyle korver?

True that scorers now need deep range, but guys with deep shooting dont automatically equate to great scorers


I would love any of those players (in their prime) to be a Magician.

In particular Danny Green. He is this generation's Robert "Big Shot" Horry. Teams win by having such players.


I'd love to have Danny green, but that's not what I asked, is he an elite scorer? Are you building a team around Danny green?

He's a good role player, but not an elite scorer or a guy who's going to put a team on his back night in and night out
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1370 » by darthmerrick » Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:56 pm

This will be my last post. Thank you realgm family. After decades of following basketball, I will be walking away from the Orlando Magic and furthermore the NBA. While I support the pursuit of social equality, I can't support this current NBA generation that spits on the flag, kneels and infuses politics into Sports while holds fans hostage to a message that has turned more violent by the day. Support us or we don't play. Well I'm done with the Lebron James era. The hypocritical response to boycott and then choose money and return was what finally did it for me. This movement means really nothing. Instead of being ambassadors for communities to promote healing and unify they have taken a more divisive option and I'm not supporting it. You can join me, stay with the NBA, your reasons are your reasons. Best of luck not just as fans, but as human beings with lives that hopefully will be great. But I am hoping some of you do follow me out the door, as there is more to life then basketball. ;-)
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1371 » by Skin » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:31 pm

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thelead wrote:And no one retaliated :banghead:

One of the biggest gripes I have had with this team. Bunch of choir boys. We got no dawgs.

Guys I want to trade for Terry Rozier, Kelly Oubre... we need to get some infectious attitude makers.

Youtube "Terry Rozier fight" results. He's hilarious.

- Terry Rozier vs Eric Bledsoe scuffle (04/24/2018)
- Raptors vs Hornets CRAZY OT ENDING! TERRY ROZIER WANTS TO FIGHTS TERRENCE DAVIS! OT HIghlights
- Terry Rozier vs Brandon Jennings (03/20/2017)
- Brandon Jennings vs Terry Rozier, Brad Stevens gets mad (05/04/2017)
- Terry Rozier Of Charlotte Hornets SLAPS Photographer In Hollywood
- DeMarcus Cousins Shoves Jayson Tatum After Getting Angry At Aron Baynes & Terry Rozier Wanna Fight!
- Terry Rozier misses game tying shot in OT and nearly fights Raptors players
- Joel Embiid And Terry Rozier Scuffle! Celtics vs Sixers Game 4


So fake tough guy that most players over 6'5 would b*** slap in real fight like a puppy? Overpayed Patric Beverly is execlly what nobody needs. That's why he plays on NBA trash wasteland Hornets.
If you need lockeroom d*** with some actual bad***ery, hire Rasheed or Ben Wallace to do something on bench.

I'm sick and tired of nba tough guys. Most of them can't fight. Every time they try to land a punch it looks like a drunk- nightclub chicks throwing wild haymakers that would miss 10 feet long wall even if stay stand inch away from it.

Since you mentioned Raptors game:
OT : Rozier shoots airball layup over Ibaka
OT: Rozier gets bodyslammed by Ibaka who also stomps him. Doesn't say *** because Ibaka might end him.
OT: Rozier shoots 3 for a tie or win- misses

After a game he goes at smallest Raptors player , while same player had no b*** to say a thing to Ibaka who literally addopted him for whole lengt of that OT :lol:

This is like Morris talking trash to Doncic while he is having 43 points, triple double over him. Just say nothing, you are getting embarrassed, shut up and learn how to actually defend.

Oh you don't have to hate on him. This is the same Terry Rozier that you suggested that we trade for. :wink:

Fake tough >>>>>>>>>>> Choir boys

...and it can go a long ways in the NBA. Detroit bad boys, KG, Gary Payton, Chris Paul.... it can serve a purpose because the NBA is very mental.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1372 » by thelead » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:38 pm

darthmerrick wrote:This will be my last post. Thank you realgm family. After decades of following basketball, I will be walking away from the Orlando Magic and furthermore the NBA. While I support the pursuit of social equality, I can't support this current NBA generation that spits on the flag, kneels and infuses politics into Sports while holds fans hostage to a message that has turned more violent by the day. Support us or we don't play. Well I'm done with the Lebron James era. The hypocritical response to boycott and then choose money and return was what finally did it for me. This movement means really nothing. Instead of being ambassadors for communities to promote healing and unify they have taken a more divisive option and I'm not supporting it. You can join me, stay with the NBA, your reasons are your reasons. Best of luck not just as fans, but as human beings with lives that hopefully will be great. But I am hoping some of you do follow me out the door, as there is more to life then basketball. ;-)


Not following you out but no resentment here. I just don't care what they have to say. They have the right to speak their minds and I have the right to not care/not listen. They lost my ear when they backed down to China.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1373 » by RookieStar » Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:29 pm

darthmerrick wrote:This will be my last post. Thank you realgm family. After decades of following basketball, I will be walking away from the Orlando Magic and furthermore the NBA. While I support the pursuit of social equality, I can't support this current NBA generation that spits on the flag, kneels and infuses politics into Sports while holds fans hostage to a message that has turned more violent by the day. Support us or we don't play. Well I'm done with the Lebron James era. The hypocritical response to boycott and then choose money and return was what finally did it for me. This movement means really nothing. Instead of being ambassadors for communities to promote healing and unify they have taken a more divisive option and I'm not supporting it. You can join me, stay with the NBA, your reasons are your reasons. Best of luck not just as fans, but as human beings with lives that hopefully will be great. But I am hoping some of you do follow me out the door, as there is more to life then basketball. ;-)


Good luck dude. Hope you stay. I too am tired of all these "social justice" being rammed down my throats when the Magic is supposedly my escape from a stressful day at work.

I even woke up early just to watch the Magic try to "fight for their lives" and shock the world only to be told it was cancelled. Hey good for them but if I tried that at work, I'll probably at worst get fired lol. It just shows the difference in the world they live in and regular people like me.

Yes there are more things to life rather than basketball..I might take a "break" as well until the draft or what. Or if this season gets even more baloney I dunno...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1374 » by magic321 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:42 am

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darthmerrick wrote:This will be my last post. Thank you realgm family. After decades of following basketball, I will be walking away from the Orlando Magic and furthermore the NBA. While I support the pursuit of social equality, I can't support this current NBA generation that spits on the flag, kneels and infuses politics into Sports while holds fans hostage to a message that has turned more violent by the day. Support us or we don't play. Well I'm done with the Lebron James era. The hypocritical response to boycott and then choose money and return was what finally did it for me. This movement means really nothing. Instead of being ambassadors for communities to promote healing and unify they have taken a more divisive option and I'm not supporting it. You can join me, stay with the NBA, your reasons are your reasons. Best of luck not just as fans, but as human beings with lives that hopefully will be great. But I am hoping some of you do follow me out the door, as there is more to life then basketball. ;-)


Good luck dude. Hope you stay. I too am tired of all these "social justice" being rammed down my throats when the Magic is supposedly my escape from a stressful day at work.

I even woke up early just to watch the Magic try to "fight for their lives" and shock the world only to be told it was cancelled. Hey good for them but if I tried that at work, I'll probably at worst get fired lol. It just shows the difference in the world they live in and regular people like me.

Yes there are more things to life rather than basketball..I might take a "break" as well until the draft or what. Or if this season gets even more baloney I dunno...
I am done as well guys. I tried to stomach the social justice nonsense and just can't get behind it. I've been a fan since 1992 and always thought I would be a lifetime fan. Best of luck everyone.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1375 » by swarlesbarkley » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:57 am

darthmerrick wrote:This will be my last post. Thank you realgm family. After decades of following basketball, I will be walking away from the Orlando Magic and furthermore the NBA. While I support the pursuit of social equality, I can't support this current NBA generation that spits on the flag, kneels and infuses politics into Sports while holds fans hostage to a message that has turned more violent by the day. Support us or we don't play. Well I'm done with the Lebron James era. The hypocritical response to boycott and then choose money and return was what finally did it for me. This movement means really nothing. Instead of being ambassadors for communities to promote healing and unify they have taken a more divisive option and I'm not supporting it. You can join me, stay with the NBA, your reasons are your reasons. Best of luck not just as fans, but as human beings with lives that hopefully will be great. But I am hoping some of you do follow me out the door, as there is more to life then basketball. ;-)


magic321 wrote:I am done as well guys. I tried to stomach the social justice nonsense and just can't get behind it. I've been a fan since 1992 and always thought I would be a lifetime fan. Best of luck everyone.


See ya!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1376 » by OrlandO » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:23 am

Porzingis out with meniscus tear... he might be too athletic for his huge frame. I bet he can be had in a reasonable trade now.
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Post#1377 » by The Effect » Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:05 pm

Man this team is so hard to get excited about
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1378 » by Howard Mass » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:19 pm

And now, we look ahead to the off season.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1379 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:45 pm

Every NBA Teams Dream Offseason Trade Target:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2906064-every-nba-teams-dream-offseason-trade-target

This was interesting ...

Orlando: DeMar DeRozen

Portland: Aaron Gordon

Toronto: Mo Bamba
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Post#1380 » by The Effect » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:51 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:Every NBA Teams Dream Offseason Trade Target:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2906064-every-nba-teams-dream-offseason-trade-target

This was interesting ...

Orlando: DeMar DeRozen

Portland: Aaron Gordon

Toronto: Mo Bamba

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Exactly what this team needs, another player who refuses to shoot 3s because they cant

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