magic propose vc for gil

[drsd]

The Washington Wizards spoke with the Orlando Magic recently about a potential swap of Gilbert Arenas for Vince Carter, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation. The source added that the talks didn't get very far and that it was merely a "business as usual" exploratory conversation between teams around the NBA draft. "Nothing to it now," the source said.

... the possible deal. "Not going to happen," ...

Washington Post: Wizards, Magic discussed Gilbert Arenas-Vince Carter deal

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[j-ragg]

The Washington Wizards spoke with the Orlando Magic recently about a potential swap of Gilbert Arenas for Vince Carter, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation. The source added that the talks didn't get very far and that it was merely a "business as usual" exploratory conversation between teams around the NBA draft. "Nothing to it now," the source said.

... the possible deal. "Not going to happen," ...

Washington Post: Wizards, Magic discussed Gilbert Arenas-Vince Carter deal

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By Michael Lee | June 24, 2010; 12:29 AM ET

[EasternMagic]

The Washington Wizards spoke with the Orlando Magic recently about a potential swap of Gilbert Arenas for Vince Carter, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation. The source added that the talks didn't get very far and that it was merely a "business as usual" exploratory conversation between teams around the NBA draft. "Nothing to it now," the source said.

... the possible deal. "Not going to happen," ...

Washington Post: Wizards, Magic discussed Gilbert Arenas-Vince Carter deal

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By Michael Lee | June 24, 2010; 12:29 AM ET

this article is almost a month old

[SolidSnake008]

If we get Arenas, he needs to drop the number 0. I hate that crap. No, you wouldn't drop 80 on duke, no, you couldn't drop 60 on Portland the year you made that claim and scored like 20 points combined in your two meetings, and no, you can't pull a gun out in our locker room because Dwight would grab the gun, smash it in his hand, and bludgeon you to death with your own weapon.

Please Otis, don't get this clown.

[MickaelPietrus]

FOR ANYONE AGAINST THIS TRADE: Seeing how this trade would involve phsyicals to make sure Gil is healthy, and the WIz apperantly are willing to throw in a 1st rounder, and that we're not gonna be cap friendly anytime soon either way annnd gortat could land us a nice player from a 3rd team, and lastly that Gil sh*ts on Vince, add to that Gil has paid his dues and admitted his faults, why in the hell wouldnt you want this trade to go down?!

A. He is 6'4 but his true position is PG. He has a much better passing game and court vision than Nelson but that means that either Nelson heads to bench or he plays the 2.

B. His contract is horrendous.

C. VC is an expiring.

D. Gil is just as washed up as Vince is.

[SolidSnake008]

FOR ANYONE AGAINST THIS TRADE: Seeing how this trade would involve phsyicals to make sure Gil is healthy, and the WIz apperantly are willing to throw in a 1st rounder, and that we're not gonna be cap friendly anytime soon either way annnd gortat could land us a nice player from a 3rd team, and lastly that Gil sh*ts on Vince, add to that Gil has paid his dues and admitted his faults, why in the hell wouldnt you want this trade to go down?!

A. He is 6'4 but his true position is PG. He has a much better passing game and court vision than Nelson but that means that either Nelson heads to bench or he plays the 2.

B. His contract is horrendous.

C. VC is an expiring.

D. Gil is just as washed up as Vince is.

[SmiteaDwight]

Vince Carter for the Nets in 08-09:

43.7 FG% / 20.8 PPG

Nets record: 34-48

Gilbert Arenas last season:

41.1 FG% / 22.6 PPG

The Wiz were 14-24 went he got suspended.

I make this comparison because they were both number 1 options for bad teams.

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DON'T DO IT OTIS!!!!

theyre basically the same guy

[MagicHolland]

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"Sign up now, and get YOUR own source!"

[BelgianMagic]

And exactly why do people wanna keep vince because he has en expiring contract?? Do people still believe we can outright sign a player of that salary?? WE WILL STILL BE OVER THE CAP ! Anything we can get for Vince is better than nothing at all ..

[Jiwol]

And exactly why do people wanna keep vince because he has en expiring contract?? Do people still believe we can outright sign a player of that salary?? WE WILL STILL BE OVER THE CAP ! Anything we can get for Vince is better than nothing at all ..

That. We are **** until Rashard's contract expires.

[Wizardspride]

Vince Carter for the Nets in 08-09:

43.7 FG% / 20.8 PPG

Nets record: 34-48

Gilbert Arenas last season:

41.1 FG% / 22.6 PPG

The Wiz were 14-24 went he got suspended.

I make this comparison because they were both number 1 options for bad teams.

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DON'T DO IT OTIS!!!!

theyre basically the same guy

You can't just look at raw numbers without taking into account other factors.

Such as the fact that Caron was having a bad season as well which in large part accounted for the record.

Trust me, Arenas is by far the superior player at this point.

[Magicfan94]

And exactly why do people wanna keep vince because he has en expiring contract?? Do people still believe we can outright sign a player of that salary?? WE WILL STILL BE OVER THE CAP ! Anything we can get for Vince is better than nothing at all ..

EVERYONE is forgetting the team has a player option on Vince that they can choose to pick up and thus, use as an expiring contract next year.

This whole idea though, get something while you can, is foolish. Picking up Arenas's contract when he's a big question mark is basically nailing yourself to the wall for another hell contract for 4 years. The Magic have plenty of pieces to move if they see fit to pull a deal in the future. Relax.

[Magicfan94]

Vince Carter for the Nets in 08-09:

43.7 FG% / 20.8 PPG

Nets record: 34-48

Gilbert Arenas last season:

41.1 FG% / 22.6 PPG

The Wiz were 14-24 went he got suspended.

I make this comparison because they were both number 1 options for bad teams.

.......

DON'T DO IT OTIS!!!!

theyre basically the same guy

You can't just look at raw numbers without taking into account other factors.

Such as the fact that Caron was having a bad season as well which in large part accounted for the record.

Trust me, Arenas is by far the superior player at this point.

And a guy who hasn't played even HALF a season in three years. It's not happening.

[doct3r dr3]

Haven't you saps figured out yet that if it's a "rumor" of a deal on the table, and not a "report" of a deal being finalized, it's a hoax?

[magicman123]

this topic is still goin on??????

[LBPTarHeel27]

And exactly why do people wanna keep vince because he has en expiring contract?? Do people still believe we can outright sign a player of that salary?? WE WILL STILL BE OVER THE CAP ! Anything we can get for Vince is better than nothing at all ..

EVERYONE is forgetting the team has a player option on Vince that they can choose to pick up and thus, use as an expiring contract next year.

This whole idea though, get something while you can, is foolish. Picking up Arenas's contract when he's a big question mark is basically nailing yourself to the wall for another hell contract for 4 years. The Magic have plenty of pieces to move if they see fit to pull a deal in the future. Relax.

Just thought I'd point out that your statement makes no sense. How can the TEAM have a PLAYER Option? It is a TEAM Option, big difference. And no...not "EVERYONE" has forgotten.

I do agree that making a trade just for the sake of making a trade is a bad move.

We will have plenty of chances to trade Vince. He is basically an expiring this summer, at the trade deadline, next summer, and the following trade deadline...His contract will eventually land us the player we want, we just have to be patient and not rush in to trading for someone like Gilbert Arenas.

[Optimus_Steel]

And exactly why do people wanna keep vince because he has en expiring contract?? Do people still believe we can outright sign a player of that salary?? WE WILL STILL BE OVER THE CAP ! Anything we can get for Vince is better than nothing at all ..

EVERYONE is forgetting the team has a player option on Vince that they can choose to pick up and thus, use as an expiring contract next year.

This whole idea though, get something while you can, is foolish. Picking up Arenas's contract when he's a big question mark is basically nailing yourself to the wall for another hell contract for 4 years. The Magic have plenty of pieces to move if they see fit to pull a deal in the future. Relax.

Just thought I'd point out that your statement makes no sense. How can the TEAM have a PLAYER Option? It is a TEAM Option, big difference. And no...not "EVERYONE" has forgotten.

I do agree that making a trade just for the sake of making a trade is a bad move.

We will have plenty of chances to trade Vince. He is basically an expiring this summer, at the trade deadline, next summer, and the following trade deadline...His contract will eventually land us the player we want, we just have to be patient and not rush in to trading for someone like Gilbert Arenas.

Thats what I have been preaching to everyone who wants to trade VC for the sake of getting rid of him. VC's contract is gonna be much more valuable in January/February than right now. Otis knows this.

[Logicjbr]

Agent 0 put up 22 ppg and 7 apg. He's a better scorer and playmaker than VC. But this is risky financially. I can't say that I wouldn't love to have his talents here. He is an upgrade at the shooting guard position.

I'm curious to see how Arenas would play being the starting sg. He's really the type of player that makes plays for himself....usually needs ball in hands...

[tiderulz]

Thats what I have been preaching to everyone who wants to trade VC for the sake of getting rid of him. VC's contract is gonna be much more valuable in January/February than right now. Otis knows this.

it's a gamble. I am not a proponent of making a trade to make a trade.

But there is a chance that any player that would actually help us is on a team doing good and therefor not available. There were really only 2 trades made at the deadline last year that were worth anything.

Z to Cleveland for Jamison - turned out not to be worth as much as thought

Butler/Haywood/Stevenson for Gooden/Ross/Howard/Singleton. That propelled Dallas but did nothing for Washington.

I guess it takes a great GM with good scouting, something we dont always have if you judge by our draft picks. VC's value is a little higher right now because it is a known commodity, an expiring contract. Anyone targeted right now has lower value for the most part. As the season goes on, they will either play good and their value will raise, or they will play bad and their value will drop, but if they are playing bad why would we want to trade for them. Kind of a Catch-22

[BelgianMagic]

EVERYONE is forgetting the team has a player option on Vince that they can choose to pick up and thus, use as an expiring contract next year.

This whole idea though, get something while you can, is foolish. Picking up Arenas's contract when he's a big question mark is basically nailing yourself to the wall for another hell contract for 4 years. The Magic have plenty of pieces to move if they see fit to pull a deal in the future. Relax.

Did someone teach you how to take things out of its context like this? Cause you're doin a great job

I know very well how Vince's contract is. I know very well bout that option, but I was just responding to all those people who say "let Vince expire, then sign another superstar" which we can't, even you know that. I was just pointing out that we can't to a New York or Chicago or Miami and let contracts expire to sign max deals, that's what I wanted to say.