Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LXI Countdown To Preseason)

Optimus_Steel · Post #141 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:33 pm

Why did Memphis give him up? He is young and cheap.

Neon1 · Post #142 » by **Neon1** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:36 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:Why did Memphis give him up? He is young and cheap.

Nothing. A second rounder that may not even materialize depending on the protections. Memphis didn't have room or the time to try and wait on development. They are way overloaded at the PG spot.

TDJacksonville · Post #143 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:40 pm

Neon1 wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:Why did Memphis give him up? He is young and cheap.

Nothing. A second rounder that may not even materialize depending on the protections. Memphis didn't have room or the time to try and wait on development. They are way overloaded at the PG spot.

because they traded for Calathes.

TDJacksonville · Post #144 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:47 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:Why did Memphis give him up? He is young and cheap.

the bigger question i would be asking is why didnt we make an offer like that. i mean hes surely better than moore(whos more of a SG than PG).

Optimus_Steel · Post #145 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:51 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:Why did Memphis give him up? He is young and cheap.

the bigger question i would be asking is why didnt we make an offer like that. i mean hes surely better than moore(whos more of a SG than PG).

Maybe we wanted to keep our 2nd rounder which is gonna be a high 2nd rounder, unlike Otis when he foolishly sent 2 for Harper, one which turned into the #1 pick in the 2nd round in this years draft.

TDJacksonville · Post #146 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:25 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:Why did Memphis give him up? He is young and cheap.

the bigger question i would be asking is why didnt we make an offer like that. i mean hes surely better than moore(whos more of a SG than PG).

Maybe we wanted to keep our 2nd rounder which is gonna be a high 2nd rounder, unlike Otis when he foolishly sent 2 for Harper, one which turned into the #1 pick in the 2nd round in this years draft.

most 2nd round picks rarely equate to anything more than a Backup. Wroten is worth an early 2nd

J the Drafter · Post #147 » by **J the Drafter** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:23 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:Why did Memphis give him up? He is young and cheap.

the bigger question i would be asking is why didnt we make an offer like that. i mean hes surely better than moore(whos more of a SG than PG).

Maybe we wanted to keep our 2nd rounder which is gonna be a high 2nd rounder, unlike Otis when he foolishly sent 2 for Harper, one which turned into the #1 pick in the 2nd round in this years draft.

If I recall, those 2nd rounders weren't worth much at the time Smith offered them.

LBPTarHeel27 · Post #148 » by **LBPTarHeel27** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:06 pm

I am really disappointed about Wrotten. I have been pushing the idea of trading for him for a long time. With that being the price...I am sure Henny would have been glad to 1 up it...if he had made a call. I trust in Henny's decision making, so I won't doubt him passing, but this just tells me that he didn't pick up the phone and make an attempt at any point or that he just doesn't think Wrotten will develop in to anything. Either way...as of now, I disagree.

tiderulz · Post #149 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:21 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:the bigger question i would be asking is why didnt we make an offer like that. i mean hes surely better than moore(whos more of a SG than PG).

Maybe we wanted to keep our 2nd rounder which is gonna be a high 2nd rounder, unlike Otis when he foolishly sent 2 for Harper, one which turned into the #1 pick in the 2nd round in this years draft.

most 2nd round picks rarely equate to anything more than a Backup. Wroten is worth an early 2nd

maybe he isnt. Apparently the talent evaluators for the Magic think so.

rcklsscognition · Post #150 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:22 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:Why did Memphis give him up? He is young and cheap.

the bigger question i would be asking is why didnt we make an offer like that. i mean hes surely better than moore(whos more of a SG than PG).

Maybe we wanted to keep our 2nd rounder which is gonna be a high 2nd rounder, unlike Otis when he foolishly sent 2 for Harper, one which turned into the #1 pick in the 2nd round in this years draft.

We still owe the Cavs another 2nd rounder next year for Harper

tiderulz · Post #151 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:23 pm

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:I am really disappointed about Wrotten. I have been pushing the idea of trading for him for a long time. With that being the price...I am sure Henny would have been glad to 1 up it...if he had made a call. I trust in Henny's decision making, so I won't doubt him passing, but this just tells me that he didn't pick up the phone and make an attempt at any point or that he just doesn't think Wrotten will develop in to anything. Either way...as of now, I disagree.

maybe hennigan didnt want a combo guard. we have enough players at SG (AA, Dipo, Lamb) that he wants to find a true PG. Wroten didnt impress enough that Memphis went and got another PG in Calathes.

LBPTarHeel27 · Post #152 » by **LBPTarHeel27** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:57 pm

tiderulz wrote:
LBPTarHeel27 wrote:I am really disappointed about Wrotten. I have been pushing the idea of trading for him for a long time. With that being the price...I am sure Henny would have been glad to 1 up it...if he had made a call. I trust in Henny's decision making, so I won't doubt him passing, but this just tells me that he didn't pick up the phone and make an attempt at any point or that he just doesn't think Wrotten will develop in to anything. Either way...as of now, I disagree.

maybe hennigan didnt want a combo guard. we have enough players at SG (AA, Dipo, Lamb) that he wants to find a true PG. Wroten didnt impress enough that Memphis went and got another PG in Calathes.

Yeah, clearly Henny didn't see him as even being worth a 2nd round pick or he would have made the call. I trust him...I just think at this point that Wrotten still has plenty of room to grow. Regardless of how many guards/combo guards we have...if you can grab a solid prospect for 2nd round pick...you do it. I guess Henny didn't see him as one. Only thing that makes sense to me.

Post #153 » by **Def Swami** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:10 am

There is little doubt the Magic would like to move forward Glen Davis. He was a hold over signing from the last regime in Orlando and while Davis put up big numbers in the games he played last year, he is not a part of the long-term puzzle and frankly Davis isn’t overly thrilled with being on a team that’s not challenging for the playoffs.

Glen is coming off of surgery in July to replace a screw in his left foot and may not see the floor until December, which means moving him before training camp starts is almost impossible. He is one of the players to watch around the NBA trade deadline and if Davis can prove that he can stay healthy and productive there is a chance someone takes his final $6.6 million contract year.

Magic captain Jameer Nelson is another situation to watch mainly because the final year of his deal in 2014 is only partially guaranteed ($4 million). Nelson’s situation is a little different than say Davis’, mainly because he wanted to stay in Orlando and the team genuinely values him as a veteran leader. Jameer was invaluable last season for rookie head coach Jacque Vaughn and he was instrumental in helping last season’s young guys find their way both on and off the court.

The smart money says Nelson finishes the season in Orlando unless he is the key to making other moves.
Magic guard Arron Afflalo heard the trade rumors with his name on them this summer and joked that if Orlando wanted to trade him, he’d have been traded. The Magic spent the second overall pick on Victor Oladipo and while Oladipo did get some run at the point guard position in Summer League and might see some time there in spot duty, his primary spot is going to be at the two spot. The early indications are that very much like Mo Harkless and Andrew Nicholson last year the Magic are going to take it slow with Oladipo which means Afflalo has the starter’s job coming into camp.

The Magic have said repeatedly that Afflalo is part of the long-term puzzle, but it’s hard to imagine that if Oladipo flourishes that Afflalo isn’t one of the guys on the way out, mainly because he has real trade value.

The Magic still have not dealt with forward Hedo Turkoglu, so that situation still remains unresolved. Turkoglu is in the final year of his contract worth $12 million, however only $6 million of it is fully guaranteed. The Magic have had talks with Turkoglu about a buyout and there has been some talk that the Magic may bring Turkoglu to camp and try and trade him as an ending contract closer to the trade deadline.

The smart money says Orlando will waive Turkoglu before training camp and avoid eating an unnecessary $6 million, but until that’s done it’s not done.

Read more at http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-situat ... 4cJ3P7I.99

TDJacksonville · Post #154 » by **TDJacksonville** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:24 am

tiderulz wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:

Maybe we wanted to keep our 2nd rounder which is gonna be a high 2nd rounder, unlike Otis when he foolishly sent 2 for Harper, one which turned into the #1 pick in the 2nd round in this years draft.

most 2nd round picks rarely equate to anything more than a Backup. Wroten is worth an early 2nd

maybe he isnt. Apparently the talent evaluators for the Magic think so.

give it a couple of years and then we shall see if Wroten will be a solid player or just the next NBA BUST

Post #155 » by **FFBlitzace** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:46 am

Man, Kyler really hittin us with sum knowledge. I don't think any of us had ever considered any of those angles. This really gives us something to talk about!

Reverse_Angle · Post #156 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:52 am

FFBlitzace wrote:Man, Kyler really hittin us with sum knowledge. I don't think any of us had ever considered any of those angles. This really gives us something to talk about!

Lol. And I thought hedo's contract will become guaranteed after the training camp, closer to trade deadline. No real rush in waiving hedo, smart money is wrong.

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doct3r dr3 · Post #157 » by **doct3r dr3** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:11 pm

Brapoleon joining the FSNFL analyst team :sour:

Joining [Paul Kennedy] will be former Magic players Nick Anderson and Tony Battie, and former Magic Head Coach Brian Hill, who will take turns analyzing the matchups throughout Orlando’s Silver Season.

Source: LINK

OrlandO · Post #158 » by **OrlandO** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:06 pm

doct3r dr3 wrote:Brapoleon joining the FSNFL analyst team

Joining [Paul Kennedy] will be former Magic players Nick Anderson and Tony Battie, and former Magic Head Coach Brian Hill, who will take turns analyzing the matchups throughout Orlando’s Silver Season.

Source: LINK

noooooo... i can't even stand seeing his face, how am i supposed to handle hearing him speak?

Neato · Post #159 » by **Neato** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:46 pm

maybe he can break some clipboards during his analysis to keep things entertaining

orlando1214 · Post #160 » by **orlando1214** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:58 pm

doct3r dr3 wrote:Brapoleon joining the FSNFL analyst team

Joining [Paul Kennedy] will be former Magic players Nick Anderson and Tony Battie, and former Magic Head Coach Brian Hill, who will take turns analyzing the matchups throughout Orlando’s Silver Season.

Source: LINK

Happy about Tony Battie coming back, I thought he did a really good job. Not thrilled about Brian Hill, but I'll give him a chance.

Also for those who didn't see, once again all but one game will be broadcast on FSNFL. The one game that won't is the ESPN game against Detroit, which could suck because there's probably a decent chance of ESPN replacing that for a Heat or Laker game, or whoever is playing that night that they love. Also sadly only the last preseason game is going to be broadcast, all the other ones we are going to have to rely on firstrow for. I really don't get why they don't broadcast them all, I am sure they will get better ratings than whatever random thing they are showing that night.