Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 I: Big decisions on the horizon

[OrlandO]

easier for them to look at Vuc as a 3rd 4th option behind Doncic, Porzingis.

They aren't paying a ton for 4th option vuc... that just doesn't make sense.

I don't know that they would have to. I'm not sure the market is going to be super hot for Vucevic this summer. I'm anticipating a $18-20 mill/year deal for him this season. And if offers aren't varying much, I wouldn't be surprised to see Vucevic opt to leave the Magic for a different situation. Dallas would be a good look for him.

I think the less he's offered the bigger the chance he returns to the magic.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

I hope they were around in the playoffs.

easier for them to look at Vuc as a 3rd 4th option behind Doncic, Porzingis.

They aren't paying a ton for 4th option vuc... that just doesn't make sense.

they certainly could if they believe he could help them get into the playoffs for the next 4 years. Getting Vuc would allow Porzingis to play the 4 and then you've got 2 dudes who can space the floor. Right now Dallas has Powell and Kleber as starting C's with Kleber and Mejri being FA's.

If Porzingis accepts the QO and Dallas renounces everyone they will have 35+M in cap space. They could easily offer Vuc something like 25M per and still have $ to go after another decent role player or 2nd tier FA who will take a 1 year deal on the cheap for playoffs.

Dallas really isn't that far off from being set for the next 4 years. They've got a great young guard in Jalen Brunson, Doncic is a baller, Porzingis if healthy is an all star. They've got Courtney Lee and Tim Hardaway JR as decent 6th men.

[OrlandO]

easier for them to look at Vuc as a 3rd 4th option behind Doncic, Porzingis.

They aren't paying a ton for 4th option vuc... that just doesn't make sense.

they certainly could if they believe he could help them get into the playoffs for the next 4 years. Getting Vuc would allow Porzingis to play the 4 and then you've got 2 dudes who can space the floor. Right now Dallas has Powell and Kleber as starting C's with Kleber and Mejri being FA's.

If Porzingis accepts the QO and Dallas renounces everyone they will have 35+M in cap space. They could easily offer Vuc something like 25M per and still have $ to go after another decent role player or 2nd tier FA who will take a 1 year deal on the cheap for playoffs.

Dallas really isn't that far off from being set for the next 4 years. They've got a great young guard in Jalen Brunson, Doncic is a baller, Porzingis if healthy is an all star. They've got Courtney Lee and Tim Hardaway JR as decent 6th men.

Cuban recently said he's going to extend powell and re-sign kelber and finney-smith. I'm also expecting Porzingis' cap hold to stay in place and converted into a max contract after other free agents are signed... it makes no sense for him to take the QO.

Luka is going to be a superstar soon. Porzingis is a star. Just making the playoffs shouldn't be their goal... mavs do that any time they want. They should be looking to contend with the young star power they have. Blowing 25+ million on 4th option Vuc will limit their ability to do that as his offensive production will be reduced in that role and they still need wing shooters and defenders. Vuc on a really big pay day only really makes sense for teams who can continue using him on high usage, like if dallas didn't have porzingis... otherwise the value just isn't there.

[BlueBalls]

The Portland roster player could have been the mummified corpse of Joe Barry Carroll and I would have taken that plus a protected 1st for Fournier.

[OrlandO]

Maybe this contributed to Fournier having an off year... got married before the season, bout to have a kid at the end of the season.

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[OrlandO]

AG just said he wants ross and vuc to come back lol
Fournier said he thinks they will stay

[OrlChamps2030]

The Portland roster player could have been the mummified corpse of Joe Barry Carroll and I would have taken that plus a protected 1st for Fournier.

Yeah I’m pretty hungry right now I would take a first and a bacon egg and cheese for Fournier

[MartinsIzAfraud]

They aren't paying a ton for 4th option vuc... that just doesn't make sense.

they certainly could if they believe he could help them get into the playoffs for the next 4 years. Getting Vuc would allow Porzingis to play the 4 and then you've got 2 dudes who can space the floor. Right now Dallas has Powell and Kleber as starting C's with Kleber and Mejri being FA's.

If Porzingis accepts the QO and Dallas renounces everyone they will have 35+M in cap space. They could easily offer Vuc something like 25M per and still have $ to go after another decent role player or 2nd tier FA who will take a 1 year deal on the cheap for playoffs.

Dallas really isn't that far off from being set for the next 4 years. They've got a great young guard in Jalen Brunson, Doncic is a baller, Porzingis if healthy is an all star. They've got Courtney Lee and Tim Hardaway JR as decent 6th men.

Cuban recently said he's going to extend powell and re-sign kelber and finney-smith. I'm also expecting Porzingis' cap hold to stay in place and converted into a max contract after other free agents are signed... it makes no sense for him to take the QO.

Luka is going to be a superstar soon. Porzingis is a star. Just making the playoffs shouldn't be their goal... mavs do that any time they want. They should be looking to contend with the young star power they have. Blowing 25+ million on 4th option Vuc will limit their ability to do that as his offensive production will be reduced in that role and they still need wing shooters and defenders. Vuc on a really big pay day only really makes sense for teams who can continue using him on high usage... otherwise the value just isn't there.

They could resign Kleber+ DFS and still give Vuc 20M. Guess I was saying Dallas will likely offer Vuc a solid deal and it’ll be hard for him to turn that down.

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

AG just said he wants ross and vuc to come back lol
Fournier said he thinks they will stay

They must really love more losing in the first round of the playoffs

[OrlandO]

they certainly could if they believe he could help them get into the playoffs for the next 4 years. Getting Vuc would allow Porzingis to play the 4 and then you've got 2 dudes who can space the floor. Right now Dallas has Powell and Kleber as starting C's with Kleber and Mejri being FA's.

If Porzingis accepts the QO and Dallas renounces everyone they will have 35+M in cap space. They could easily offer Vuc something like 25M per and still have $ to go after another decent role player or 2nd tier FA who will take a 1 year deal on the cheap for playoffs.

Dallas really isn't that far off from being set for the next 4 years. They've got a great young guard in Jalen Brunson, Doncic is a baller, Porzingis if healthy is an all star. They've got Courtney Lee and Tim Hardaway JR as decent 6th men.

Cuban recently said he's going to extend powell and re-sign kelber and finney-smith. I'm also expecting Porzingis' cap hold to stay in place and converted into a max contract after other free agents are signed... it makes no sense for him to take the QO.

Luka is going to be a superstar soon. Porzingis is a star. Just making the playoffs shouldn't be their goal... mavs do that any time they want. They should be looking to contend with the young star power they have. Blowing 25+ million on 4th option Vuc will limit their ability to do that as his offensive production will be reduced in that role and they still need wing shooters and defenders. Vuc on a really big pay day only really makes sense for teams who can continue using him on high usage... otherwise the value just isn't there.

They could resign Kleber+ DFS and still give Vuc 20M. Guess I was saying Dallas will likely offer Vuc a solid deal and it’ll be hard for him to turn that down.

Don't think 20m will lure him out of orlando... the lower the market cost the more likely magic and vuc reach a mutual agreement imo. Dallas should really be looking to spend the bulk of their money on backcourt help for luka and then sign a cheaper 3&D C like dedmon or lopez.

[OrlandO]

AG just said he wants ross and vuc to come back lol
Fournier said he thinks they will stay

They must really love more losing in the first round of the playoffs

They know they're going back to the lottery without them. Don't have to worry about playoffs if you have no shot at them.

[OrlandO]

Ross said he'd like to return, but he'll see... later he slipped in that he'll wait to see what Vuc does. Seems like we're headed into a situation where it will either be both of them or neither of them.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Ross said he'd like to return, but he'll see... later he slipped in that he'll wait to see what Vuc does. Seems like we're headed into a situation where it will either be both of them or neither of them.

that would make a ton of sense, if you're going over the cap to sign one you better bring the other back or else you're taking a step back, it might be a small step back though.

Makes it even more difficult for Magic to sign both unless they're willing to take a friendly deal to keep this team intact. 3 year 55M for Vuc and something like 3 year 35M for TRoss.

[Popsicle1228]

AG just said he wants ross and vuc to come back lol
Fournier said he thinks they will stay

They must really love more losing in the first round of the playoffs

I am sure AG and Fournier prefer it to winning only 20-25 games in a season.

[NavalAviator94]

Cuban recently said he's going to extend powell and re-sign kelber and finney-smith. I'm also expecting Porzingis' cap hold to stay in place and converted into a max contract after other free agents are signed... it makes no sense for him to take the QO.

Luka is going to be a superstar soon. Porzingis is a star. Just making the playoffs shouldn't be their goal... mavs do that any time they want. They should be looking to contend with the young star power they have. Blowing 25+ million on 4th option Vuc will limit their ability to do that as his offensive production will be reduced in that role and they still need wing shooters and defenders. Vuc on a really big pay day only really makes sense for teams who can continue using him on high usage... otherwise the value just isn't there.

They could resign Kleber+ DFS and still give Vuc 20M. Guess I was saying Dallas will likely offer Vuc a solid deal and it’ll be hard for him to turn that down.

Don't think 20m will lure him out of orlando... the lower the market cost the more likely magic and vuc reach a mutual agreement imo. Dallas should really be looking to spend the bulk of their money on backcourt help for luka and then sign a cheaper 3&D C like dedmon or lopez.

I agree but understand Martins thinking. It would be an intriguing situation for Vuc as a player with those other 2 guys, but at the end of the day, if money is fairly equal he comes back.

What concerns me is the Lakers due to Lebron's limited time left and a suspect FA summer. I'm also suspect on the Kings with Vuc next to Bagley quite frankly. I think that's smoke.

[OrlandO]

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[KillMonger]

AG just said he wants ross and vuc to come back lol
Fournier said he thinks they will stay

They must really love more losing in the first round of the playoffs

I am sure AG and Fournier prefer it to winning only 20-25 games in a season.

I know I sure as hell prefer that

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[OrlandO]

Vuc leaving his best friend was always going to be hard for him... I'd say it's even harder now that we know Fournier is about to have a baby boy. Those two have probably been talking about raising their kids together all season. The family aspect might play a bigger role than anyone thought.

[OrlandO]

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