Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks

PrimeThyme · Post #141 » by **PrimeThyme** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:35 pm

MagicMatic wrote:Weltman still gets an L for not trading Fournier a year sooner for 2x the value.

Weltman is awful, but these trades basically seal their fate as well. They won't make it another year. We are resetting.

Landshark · Post #142 » by **Landshark** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:36 pm

I guess Weltham is finally done evaluating.

bigshawn · Post #143 » by **bigshawn** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:36 pm

Love the Vuc trade. Lets now go get Evan Mobley, a new age mobile center.

Magic#1 · Post #144 » by **Magic#1** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:36 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Magic#1 wrote:
Knightro wrote:Shams says the Bulls 2021 1st is Top 4 protected.

Great deal. If we don't get a top 3-4 pick, this gives us a tool for a decent offer to trade up.

will be 2 non-lottery picks. dont like this trade at all

Chicago is in the play-in bracket right now so it's possible. But right now they'd have to beat teams like Boston or Indy. Teams that have playoff experience. Can the likes of Vooch really help them pick up the slack to avoid the play-in bracket? I really doubt it. The odds are greater that this is a lottery pick than it's not. And if they do make it in the playoffs, we're looking at the 15th-16th at absolute worst. That can still get a decent prospect and has move-up potential.

RookieStar · Post #145 » by **RookieStar** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:37 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:

Read on Twitter

vroom vroom

You know what? im.not so down with Mobley anymore.

The Effect · Post #146 » by **The Effect** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:37 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:Weltman still gets an L for not trading Fournier a year sooner for 2x the value.

Weltman is awful, but these trades basically seal their fate as well. They won't make it another year. We are resetting.

I disagree, to me they cant do this without managements approval
This tells me that they are going to be incharge of the rebuild and will be give more time here

KillMonger · Post #147 » by **KillMonger** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:37 pm

BDill012 wrote:
KillMonger wrote:two seconds for fournier is alright i guess when you think he's going to walk, might as well get something for him

Would have liked one of Langford or Nesmith, but there was just no leverage for something like that with Fournier at the end of his deal.

yeah under the circumstances it's not too bad, however considering our history with second rounders though......maybe that changes with this new direction we're heading in

MoMM · Post #148 » by **MoMM** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:38 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:Like the deal.
Rookie contract promising C.
Mid-first this draft.
Our pick and can trade up.
Trade Otto for something.
Get off Aminu entirely.
Future pick.
Addition by subtraction.

More importantly, we are securing top 5 odds and a serious shot at selecting Cade/Suggs. That's what this deal is about.

We already had it secure, come on. Our team is garbage with all of those injuries if we trade Evan or AG.

The1llness · Post #149 » by **The1llness** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:38 pm

Did the Magic get the next Bam Adebayo in Carter Jr? What does it mean for Bamba’s future and what does it say about the front office that they selected Bamba one spot ahead.

On a side note I’m excited to see what the Bulls could do with that front court + LaVine.

KillMonger · Post #150 » by **KillMonger** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:38 pm

bigshawn wrote:Love the Vuc trade. Lets now go get Evan Mobley, a new age mobile center.

that's a pass for me, i would be legit upset if we selected mobley

crazytown · Post #151 » by **crazytown** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:39 pm

I can't believe we're in full blown tank mode again.

We better get a superstar player this draft. I can't do this again for another 10 years :banghead:

MoMM · Post #152 » by **MoMM** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:39 pm

shadrock wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
BDill012 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Two second rounders for Fournier ... We don't use 2nd rounders.

Yikes thats terrible, his value is poop.

We gain by removing him. The cap space is more valuable than the contract he is on.

He is an expiring contract. How they can't get anything better than 2 2nd picks?

pepe1991 · Post #153 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:39 pm

10 years of rebuilding turned into...new rebuild :rofl:

can't even make this s*** up. Won 2 playoff games in 9 years

PigsEatHam · Post #154 » by **PigsEatHam** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:40 pm

Value of the return aside (which I don't think is terrible), a roster overhaul is long, LONG overdue. I'm thrilled they've finally committed to it, and I might actually enjoy watching Magic games again for the remainder of the season.

The1llness · Post #155 » by **The1llness** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:40 pm

Magic could be looking at $30 million+ in cap space this off-season depending on what they get back for Gordon.

Orl_Magic · Post #156 » by **Orl_Magic** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:40 pm

watch us keep Gordon now that buddy ball is offically over

DiplomaticMagic · Post #157 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:40 pm

I'm just happy we should now see Mo Bamba actually play.

tiderulz · Post #158 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:40 pm

today's NBA doesnt rely on centers. not happy with this trade. We could have kept Vuc and used our pick on the best wing player. now we could use it on the 5 spot and still need wing players. Carter to me is a 10/8 player.

Last Guardian · Post #159 » by **Last Guardian** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:42 pm

You get a crap return when you wait too long to do anything, and that’s why this management is awful. So desperate to make 8th seed and lose badly. Yes Vuc and Fournier needed to go but these returns are not good to say the least.

I’m shocked they even traded Vuc. Can’t believe it.

tiderulz · Post #160 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:42 pm

The1llness wrote:Did the Magic get the next Bam Adebayo in Carter Jr? What does it mean for Bamba’s future and what does it say about the front office that they selected Bamba one spot ahead.

On a side note I’m excited to see what the Bulls could do with that front court + LaVine.

not even close