When is Isaac Returning? Ruled out for the entire 2021-2022 season

[swarlesbarkley]

Isaac sits on the first seat on the bench next to the coaches and is the first one clapping and standing up for this teams good play. He especially seems happy when the team defends well.

All this stupid talk about him being disconnected from the rest of the team or basketball not being a priority will end when he's back out on the floor giving more effort than anyone else. I'm worried he'll get injured again sure, I'm not worried about the effort and tenacity he's going to play with.

There's clearly an inner nucleus of players on this team that gel and vibe together: Cole, RJ, Suggs, Bamba, WCJ, and Wagner. You can see it in their personal videos they post. Fultz and Okeke seem like they're also a part of this group despite working through their rehab - I haven't seen much JI in these videos.

Now, does this mean that he's not a part of this circle or even that this circle of players really means anything in the long-run? No. But it would be a better "look" if JI was goofing around with these guys and participating in the celebratory deodorant baths after great games (can JI even participate in these with his vax status?).

As it stands right now - it looks like JI is on the outside of this club. Maybe it won't matter on the court anyway but the current dudes have a chemistry that I haven't seen on a Magic team since 2008.

Dwight is notorious for not having friends in the NBA but he led this team to competitive basketball.

It is great that the team gets along but it doesn't mean anything...they still are among the worst teams in basketball currently.

And like I said...JI is up front, participating in the huddles, clapping and cheering for his team...he's fully engaged in the games. He's not in the back writing his next sermon. Whether or not he's part of the brat pack means nothing.

Its also difficult to truly engage with people you haven't battled on the court with yet. Outside of Fultz, Ross and Bamba I don't think he's played with anyone on the team.

Small sample size but that core group of guys, the guys who are starting on this squad, is actually one of the best starting 5 in the NBA.

"The Orlando Magic starting 5 lineup has the best plus minus in the NBA at +48 in 125 minutes. The Orlando Magic bench players have the worst combined plus minus in the NBA at -74 in 187 minutes. The starting lineup has an average age of 21 years, and no player older than 23.

The lineup also has (with >50mins):

the best net rating in the NBA at +18.1
the 2nd best defensive rating in the NBA at 91.9
the 11th best offensive rating in the NBA at 110"

[AaronB]

I see that the CDC announced a few days ago that a US-based study showed vaccine immunity gives 5x the protection compared to "natural" immunity. I wonder if Isaac will change his stance on the COVID vaccine since at his press conference he spoke to his natural immunity being better than vaccine immunity as one of the driving forces for him to avoid vaccination.

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm

What could go wrong?

The Tuskegee Experiment

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm

[Xatticus]

I see that the CDC announced a few days ago that a US-based study showed vaccine immunity gives 5x the protection compared to "natural" immunity. I wonder if Isaac will change his stance on the COVID vaccine since at his press conference he spoke to his natural immunity being better than vaccine immunity as one of the driving forces for him to avoid vaccination.

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm

What could go wrong?

The Tuskegee Experiment

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm

I'm not sure exactly what your implication is here, but I get really annoyed when people just say "Tuskegee Experiment" to undermine the credibility of the scientific community.

The issue with the Tuskegee Experiment was that the subjects were known to be infected with a disease for which a cure was later discovered. Instead of notifying the subjects of the exact nature of their disease and without notifying them upon the discovery of said cure, the study continued. The subjects believed they were getting free medical care. They were not. They were simply subjects in a study. This case has been condemned universally and it is taught to every would be scientist in an ethics course regardless of their field of study.

This has absolutely nothing to do with vaccines or covid beyond the skepticism of the scientific community resulting from this deception. The only relevance of such a citation in this case would be if the subjects in the Tuskegee Experiment were notified by the CDC that a vaccine or cure for their condition existed, but those subjects chose to forego it because some men in lab coats (or on the internet) told them they didn't need it. Nobody is trying to withhold a cure here.

I get that this can be confusing, but the irony of this lies in the fact that those that are opposed to the vaccine, for cynical reasons, still trade on the credibility of the scientific community when they put forth their arguments against it, and yet the scientific community is in near universal agreement on the matter (there is never universal consensus within the scientific community). It's sort of like when Joe Rogan gets rankled at the media for not adhering to the standard of integrity that they have previously established while remaining thoroughly oblivious to the fact that he is a member of the media with a very low threshold of integrity. I understand the critique, but it's exceedingly hypocritical.

I'm opposed to forcing anyone to take the vaccine. I'm a very strong proponent of protecting the general population from those that represent a significant risk to others. These things certainly aren't mutually exclusive. I'm not going to vilify Jonathan Isaac. It's his right to choose. As long as Isaac follows the protocols put forth by the league or in the jurisdictions in which he works, I don't see an issue here. He will be back when he is back and we can deal with whatever hurdles when they come.

[swarlesbarkley]

I see that the CDC announced a few days ago that a US-based study showed vaccine immunity gives 5x the protection compared to "natural" immunity. I wonder if Isaac will change his stance on the COVID vaccine since at his press conference he spoke to his natural immunity being better than vaccine immunity as one of the driving forces for him to avoid vaccination.

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm

What could go wrong?

The Tuskegee Experiment

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm

Oh hey AaronB - welcome back! Do you have a source for your statement that the Orlando Magic organization doesn't have to follow NBA COVID protocols because of Florida state law? I've been waiting since page 5...

[tiderulz]

I see that the CDC announced a few days ago that a US-based study showed vaccine immunity gives 5x the protection compared to "natural" immunity. I wonder if Isaac will change his stance on the COVID vaccine since at his press conference he spoke to his natural immunity being better than vaccine immunity as one of the driving forces for him to avoid vaccination.

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm

What could go wrong?

The Tuskegee Experiment

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm

or what else could go wrong

Witchcraft

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft

[AaronB]

I see that the CDC announced a few days ago that a US-based study showed vaccine immunity gives 5x the protection compared to "natural" immunity. I wonder if Isaac will change his stance on the COVID vaccine since at his press conference he spoke to his natural immunity being better than vaccine immunity as one of the driving forces for him to avoid vaccination.

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm

What could go wrong?

The Tuskegee Experiment

https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm

I'm not sure exactly what your implication is here, but I get really annoyed when people just say "Tuskegee Experiment" to undermine the credibility of the scientific community.

The issue with the Tuskegee Experiment was that the subjects were known to be infected with a disease for which a cure was later discovered. Instead of notifying the subjects of the exact nature of their disease and without notifying them upon the discovery of said cure, the study continued. The subjects believed they were getting free medical care. They were not. They were simply subjects in a study. This case has been condemned universally and it is taught to every would be scientist in an ethics course regardless of their field of study.

This has absolutely nothing to do with vaccines or covid beyond the skepticism of the scientific community resulting from this deception. The only relevance of such a citation in this case would be if the subjects in the Tuskegee Experiment were notified by the CDC that a vaccine or cure for their condition existed, but those subjects chose to forego it because some men in lab coats (or on the internet) told them they didn't need it. Nobody is trying to withhold a cure here.

I get that this can be confusing, but the irony of this lies in the fact that those that are opposed to the vaccine, for cynical reasons, still trade on the credibility of the scientific community when they put forth their arguments against it, and yet the scientific community is in near universal agreement on the matter (there is never universal consensus within the scientific community). It's sort of like when Joe Rogan gets rankled at the media for not adhering to the standard of integrity that they have previously established while remaining thoroughly oblivious to the fact that he is a member of the media with a very low threshold of integrity. I understand the critique, but it's exceedingly hypocritical.

I'm opposed to forcing anyone to take the vaccine. I'm a very strong proponent of protecting the general population from those that represent a significant risk to others. These things certainly aren't mutually exclusive. I'm not going to vilify Jonathan Isaac. It's his right to choose. As long as Isaac follows the protocols put forth by the league or in the jurisdictions in which he works, I don't see an issue here. He will be back when he is back and we can deal with whatever hurdles when they come.

You might bow before the cult of scientism, I don't.

In terms of the laughable CDC paper, I have only 2 words: Bayesian Statistics.

[The Effect]

Ok forget about all the vax garbage for now (its now overtaken everything else to become the dumbest argument on the internet with no right or wrong answer)

But, getting back to isaac

Who here has faith that he will
- Develop into what everyone here envisioned
- get back to 100% health
- Stay Healthy for a full season at any point in his career

I know i dont, but then again ive never been a big fan of isaac, but for those of you who are, do you feel he will do those 3 things and do them well enough to offset the off the field distraction that he brings?
Im an outsider so i dont know any of this, but the public\media perception is that in florida, it might not be as big a distraction as floridians seem to share the same opinions as he does with certain things (religion, politics, vax), but is that actually true, or more media BS? Would his stances have any effect on the locker room?

[tooler]

Would his stances have any effect on the locker room?

Nope.

In the real world, when you're on a team in most organizations and you take the time to build a relationship with real people, you're more willing to accept and soften the differences because you respect and value those people. Then you can focus on the shared mission.

The opposite is true on the Internet, especially when people talk past each other to prove a point.

I'll let you all get back to it.

[swarlesbarkley]

Would his stances have any effect on the locker room?

Nope.

In the real world, when you're on a team in most organizations and you take the time to build a relationship with real people, you're more willing to accept and soften the differences because you respect and value those people. Then you can focus on the shared mission.

The opposite is true on the Internet, especially when people talk past each other to prove a point.

I'll let you all get back to it.

I agree here that his personal opinions on this stuff won't matter much - but I'm more concerned with him not being able to have dinner with the team, have a locker near the rest of the team, and sit near the team during film sessions, etc. I'm sure everyone will be professional with one another but JI will miss out on chemistry building simply because of these things. Whenever I played team sports it's always the stuff in between practice and games where inside jokes and deeper connections are formed but maybe he can make up for it on the court/bench and at practice?

[BDill012]

So... Is there a time table for his return or no?

I was looking for one here but got lost in the corn maze that this topic became.

[swarlesbarkley]

So... Is there a time table for his return or no?

I was looking for one here but got lost on the corn maze that this topic became.

Injury report says Nov. 14 apparently. Seems like we'd hear/see him practicing with the team now though if that were the case.

[basketballRob]

Would his stances have any effect on the locker room?

Nope.

In the real world, when you're on a team in most organizations and you take the time to build a relationship with real people, you're more willing to accept and soften the differences because you respect and value those people. Then you can focus on the shared mission.

The opposite is true on the Internet, especially when people talk past each other to prove a point.

I'll let you all get back to it.

I agree here that his personal opinions on this stuff won't matter much - but I'm more concerned with him not being able to have dinner with the team, have a locker near the rest of the team, and sit near the team during film sessions, etc. I'm sure everyone will be professional with one another but JI will miss out on chemistry building simply because of these things. Whenever I played team sports it's always the stuff in between practice and games where inside jokes and deeper connections are formed but maybe he can make up for it on the court/bench and at practice?

I bet no one on the team cares anything about it.

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[Skybox]

Nope.

In the real world, when you're on a team in most organizations and you take the time to build a relationship with real people, you're more willing to accept and soften the differences because you respect and value those people. Then you can focus on the shared mission.

The opposite is true on the Internet, especially when people talk past each other to prove a point.

I'll let you all get back to it.

I agree here that his personal opinions on this stuff won't matter much - but I'm more concerned with him not being able to have dinner with the team, have a locker near the rest of the team, and sit near the team during film sessions, etc. I'm sure everyone will be professional with one another but JI will miss out on chemistry building simply because of these things. Whenever I played team sports it's always the stuff in between practice and games where inside jokes and deeper connections are formed but maybe he can make up for it on the court/bench and at practice?

I bet no one on the team cares anything about it.

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There can be cliquish dynamics but if a guy plays well and, especially, unselfishly, that stuff doesn't matter too much, IMO. Particularly if the guy isn't really a problem socially, just more mature and "elevated" in his priorities (similar to an older vet who has a family). Bigger problem is if a "cool guy" like RJ gets left behind (on the court) while his buddies like Cole and Bamba keep progressing. None of these guys seem like trouble though. Given Cole's style of play...if he was a jerk, it'd be a potential problem, but he doesn't seem to be. He shouts out his teammates and gets laughs in every interview. If Isaac took too many bad shots and got "preachy", then it'd be warming up, but I don't see that coming.

[Xatticus]

Nope.

In the real world, when you're on a team in most organizations and you take the time to build a relationship with real people, you're more willing to accept and soften the differences because you respect and value those people. Then you can focus on the shared mission.

The opposite is true on the Internet, especially when people talk past each other to prove a point.

I'll let you all get back to it.

I agree here that his personal opinions on this stuff won't matter much - but I'm more concerned with him not being able to have dinner with the team, have a locker near the rest of the team, and sit near the team during film sessions, etc. I'm sure everyone will be professional with one another but JI will miss out on chemistry building simply because of these things. Whenever I played team sports it's always the stuff in between practice and games where inside jokes and deeper connections are formed but maybe he can make up for it on the court/bench and at practice?

I bet no one on the team cares anything about it.

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Do you get along with all of your coworkers and neighbors?

Keep in mind that nobody showed up when Isaac invited his teammates to his first sermon.

I’m not saying it’s a problem. It is probably less of a problem at this point in time due to the absence of veterans around which you need to mind your Ps and Qs. That will change though, especially for a team that will lose a lot of games. A hierarchy will develop. Players will get bothered by their roles. Players will get bothered when teammates show preferences towards other teammates. Bigs, in particular, depend on ball handlers to feed them when they work to get open or in good spots.

There is so much more rancor and division in locker rooms than ever gets reported. We all know how Horace Grant’s tenure in Orlando ended. These protocols add another layer of complexity to the situation.

Ultimately, it is on Mosley to keep the ship running smoothly and I have no reason to doubt his ability to do so at this point.

[AaronB]

I agree here that his personal opinions on this stuff won't matter much - but I'm more concerned with him not being able to have dinner with the team, have a locker near the rest of the team, and sit near the team during film sessions, etc. I'm sure everyone will be professional with one another but JI will miss out on chemistry building simply because of these things. Whenever I played team sports it's always the stuff in between practice and games where inside jokes and deeper connections are formed but maybe he can make up for it on the court/bench and at practice?

I bet no one on the team cares anything about it.

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Do you get along with all of your coworkers and neighbors?

Keep in mind that nobody showed up when Isaac invited his teammates to his first sermon.

I’m not saying it’s a problem. It is probably less of a problem at this point in time due to the absence of veterans around which you need to mind your Ps and Qs. That will change though, especially for a team that will lose a lot of games. A hierarchy will develop. Players will get bothered by their roles. Players will get bothered when teammates show preferences towards other teammates. Bigs, in particular, depend on ball handlers to feed them when they work to get open or in good spots.

There is so much more rancor and division in locker rooms than ever gets reported. We all know how Horace Grant’s tenure in Orlando ended. These protocols add another layer of complexity to the situation.

Ultimately, it is on Mosley to keep the ship running smoothly and I have no reason to doubt his ability to do so at this point.

The protocols are moronic.

Twice in the last 2 weeks, my daughter has had to get a COVID test to go do something in California.

It literally takes 2 minutes, cost $25 and they had the results in 10 minutes.

Oh, and the results can be as old as 72 hours old ... in California!

He takes a test every 3 days and he is safer than any of his vaccinated teammates.

Literally, 2 minutes (no discomfort), $25, and results in 10 minutes.

My daughter had her results (both times negative) before we get home from the testing station.

[The Effect]

I bet no one on the team cares anything about it.

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Do you get along with all of your coworkers and neighbors?

Keep in mind that nobody showed up when Isaac invited his teammates to his first sermon.

I’m not saying it’s a problem. It is probably less of a problem at this point in time due to the absence of veterans around which you need to mind your Ps and Qs. That will change though, especially for a team that will lose a lot of games. A hierarchy will develop. Players will get bothered by their roles. Players will get bothered when teammates show preferences towards other teammates. Bigs, in particular, depend on ball handlers to feed them when they work to get open or in good spots.

There is so much more rancor and division in locker rooms than ever gets reported. We all know how Horace Grant’s tenure in Orlando ended. These protocols add another layer of complexity to the situation.

Ultimately, it is on Mosley to keep the ship running smoothly and I have no reason to doubt his ability to do so at this point.

The protocols are moronic.

Twice in the last 2 weeks, my daughter has had to get a COVID test to go do something in California.

It literally takes 2 minutes, cost $25 and they had the results in 10 minutes.

Oh, and the results can be as old as 72 hours old ... in California!

He takes a test every 3 days and he is safer than any of his vaccinated teammates.

Literally, 2 minutes (no discomfort), $25, and results in 10 minutes.

My daughter had her results (both times negative) before we get home from the testing station.

Yup, living in san diego, i went to a concert 2 weeks ago, had to get tested with the results being with in atleast 72 hrs of the show, today im going to a comedy show.... had to do it again, but still havent gotten my results back and if they dont come in the next 8hrs, gonna have to spend $75 to get an instant test just to go to the show

Where did you do it for 25?

[The Effect]

I agree here that his personal opinions on this stuff won't matter much - but I'm more concerned with him not being able to have dinner with the team, have a locker near the rest of the team, and sit near the team during film sessions, etc. I'm sure everyone will be professional with one another but JI will miss out on chemistry building simply because of these things. Whenever I played team sports it's always the stuff in between practice and games where inside jokes and deeper connections are formed but maybe he can make up for it on the court/bench and at practice?

I bet no one on the team cares anything about it.

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Do you get along with all of your coworkers and neighbors?

Keep in mind that nobody showed up when Isaac invited his teammates to his first sermon.

I’m not saying it’s a problem. It is probably less of a problem at this point in time due to the absence of veterans around which you need to mind your Ps and Qs. That will change though, especially for a team that will lose a lot of games. A hierarchy will develop. Players will get bothered by their roles. Players will get bothered when teammates show preferences towards other teammates. Bigs, in particular, depend on ball handlers to feed them when they work to get open or in good spots.

There is so much more rancor and division in locker rooms than ever gets reported. We all know how Horace Grant’s tenure in Orlando ended. These protocols add another layer of complexity to the situation.

Ultimately, it is on Mosley to keep the ship running smoothly and I have no reason to doubt his ability to do so at this point.

Yup, i remember that. Little weird that NOT ONE showed up.

Also, besides the vax stuff, dont forget he was one of the only guys in the whole league who didnt kneel during the BLM protest\national anthem stuff in the bubble last year

Im not trying to sound like criticizing his choices, i truly believe everyone should be able to make their own decisions and do whats best for them, and i have no problem with his stance on any of those choices...........But i know thats not the case for everyone.

So once again, will his off the court decisions hurt him (vax, blm, religion) in the locker room, especially when you consider that the anti-vax stance will keep him out of some games and keep him away from his teammates during other activities?

[basketballRob]

I bet no one on the team cares anything about it.

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Do you get along with all of your coworkers and neighbors?

Keep in mind that nobody showed up when Isaac invited his teammates to his first sermon.

I’m not saying it’s a problem. It is probably less of a problem at this point in time due to the absence of veterans around which you need to mind your Ps and Qs. That will change though, especially for a team that will lose a lot of games. A hierarchy will develop. Players will get bothered by their roles. Players will get bothered when teammates show preferences towards other teammates. Bigs, in particular, depend on ball handlers to feed them when they work to get open or in good spots.

There is so much more rancor and division in locker rooms than ever gets reported. We all know how Horace Grant’s tenure in Orlando ended. These protocols add another layer of complexity to the situation.

Ultimately, it is on Mosley to keep the ship running smoothly and I have no reason to doubt his ability to do so at this point.

Yup, i remember that. Little weird that NOT ONE showed up.

Also, besides the vax stuff, dont forget he was one of the only guys in the whole league who didnt kneel during the BLM protest\national anthem stuff in the bubble last year

Im not trying to sound like criticizing his choices, i truly believe everyone should be able to make their own decisions and do whats best for them, and i have no problem with his stance on any of those choices...........But i know thats not the case for everyone.

So once again, will his off the court decisions hurt him (vax, blm, religion) in the locker room, especially when you consider that the anti-vax stance will keep him out of some games and keep him away from his teammates during other activities?

No, I don't think his teammates care about that. He probably has the respect of teammates because he shows so much conviction in his beliefs.

Ultimately I think his on-court performance will dictate how well he gels with the team, more than the off-court stuff.

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[basketballRob]

I agree here that his personal opinions on this stuff won't matter much - but I'm more concerned with him not being able to have dinner with the team, have a locker near the rest of the team, and sit near the team during film sessions, etc. I'm sure everyone will be professional with one another but JI will miss out on chemistry building simply because of these things. Whenever I played team sports it's always the stuff in between practice and games where inside jokes and deeper connections are formed but maybe he can make up for it on the court/bench and at practice?

I bet no one on the team cares anything about it.

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Do you get along with all of your coworkers and neighbors?

Keep in mind that nobody showed up when Isaac invited his teammates to his first sermon.

I’m not saying it’s a problem. It is probably less of a problem at this point in time due to the absence of veterans around which you need to mind your Ps and Qs. That will change though, especially for a team that will lose a lot of games. A hierarchy will develop. Players will get bothered by their roles. Players will get bothered when teammates show preferences towards other teammates. Bigs, in particular, depend on ball handlers to feed them when they work to get open or in good spots.

There is so much more rancor and division in locker rooms than ever gets reported. We all know how Horace Grant’s tenure in Orlando ended. These protocols add another layer of complexity to the situation.

Ultimately, it is on Mosley to keep the ship running smoothly and I have no reason to doubt his ability to do so at this point.

I think if you have a religious person in any workplace, they may be alienated.

If you want to get rid of a random annoying person just start talking about religion.

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[AaronB]

Do you get along with all of your coworkers and neighbors?

Keep in mind that nobody showed up when Isaac invited his teammates to his first sermon.

I’m not saying it’s a problem. It is probably less of a problem at this point in time due to the absence of veterans around which you need to mind your Ps and Qs. That will change though, especially for a team that will lose a lot of games. A hierarchy will develop. Players will get bothered by their roles. Players will get bothered when teammates show preferences towards other teammates. Bigs, in particular, depend on ball handlers to feed them when they work to get open or in good spots.

There is so much more rancor and division in locker rooms than ever gets reported. We all know how Horace Grant’s tenure in Orlando ended. These protocols add another layer of complexity to the situation.

Ultimately, it is on Mosley to keep the ship running smoothly and I have no reason to doubt his ability to do so at this point.

The protocols are moronic.

Twice in the last 2 weeks, my daughter has had to get a COVID test to go do something in California.

It literally takes 2 minutes, cost $25 and they had the results in 10 minutes.

Oh, and the results can be as old as 72 hours old ... in California!

He takes a test every 3 days and he is safer than any of his vaccinated teammates.

Literally, 2 minutes (no discomfort), $25, and results in 10 minutes.

My daughter had her results (both times negative) before we get home from the testing station.

Yup, living in san diego, i went to a concert 2 weeks ago, had to get tested with the results being with in atleast 72 hrs of the show, today im going to a comedy show.... had to do it again, but still havent gotten my results back and if they dont come in the next 8hrs, gonna have to spend $75 to get an instant test just to go to the show

Where did you do it for 25?

In Manhattan Beach, corner of Marine and PCH (Pacific Coast Highway). Don't know the name of the place. My 14 year old makes her own appointments online, it is literally that easy.

Oh, and the $25 is pre-tax $. We spend more at Carl's Jr than the cost of a COVID test (and results are delivered at about the same time).

There are zero reasons to make anyone not eat with the team, not be in the locker room and whatnot.

The nitwits here complaining about Isaac not being able to socialize with the team are just plain stupid.

The guy is making Millions of $'s each year and has already said he will take COVID tests as required.

My 14-year-old daughter makes her own appointment, she gets a code, shows up, shows her code, walks in, gets tested, and walks out in 5 minutes. Ten minutes later she has her results.

She is then free to go to any kind of event that requires a COVID vaccine and is as safe or safer than any vaccinated person.