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Who should be the starting point guard?

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Fultz
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Cole
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Suggs
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#141 » by KillMonger » Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:17 pm

People said he didn't have a full off-season but..... He did didn't he? I might be wrong but didn't kelle himself say he was still playing on the toe and didn't even realize it was broken until training camp? So he had pretty much a full summer to address the jumper from 3pt range and can we say he did? I'm not sure so, are we supposed to live with kelle as is? And pay him what he wants? I prefer to keep our options open but I'm not opposed to kelle being around

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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#142 » by CZ Eddie » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:49 am

Fultz had a pretty nice year.
Next year we'll see what he's all about.
No excuses for next year.

But I fully expect him to be a bad ass and maybe even get some all star consideration.
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#143 » by pinoynurse » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:43 am

right now its fultz for sure

i doubt this will happen, but for the last couple games id like to see suggs get more reps as the lead pick and roll ball handler. It will look bad for sure, but i think it would give him some good momentum heading into the offseason
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#144 » by VFX » Mon Mar 27, 2023 1:19 pm

CZ Eddie wrote:Fultz had a pretty nice year.
Next year we'll see what he's all about.
No excuses for next year.

But I fully expect him to be a bad ass and maybe even get some all star consideration.


He will be in a contract year.

He won’t miss any serious time due to injury miraculously for the first time in his career. I’ll make that bet.

Why would he need excuses? The FO can’t wait to hand him a ridiculous contract despite not doing 1/2 of what starting point guards should.
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#145 » by Bergmaniac » Mon Mar 27, 2023 1:27 pm

CZ Eddie wrote:But I fully expect him to be a bad ass and maybe even get some all star consideration.

This is a joke, right? Got to be.
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#146 » by AdamTheGreek » Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:36 pm

It’s Fultz and it should not be this close. Suggs isn’t a point guard. Cole is best suited off the bench.
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#147 » by zaymon » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:52 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:It’s Fultz and it should not be this close. Suggs isn’t a point guard. Cole is best suited off the bench.


Why exactly Fultz is a point guard and Suggs not ?
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Post#148 » by Skybox » Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:07 pm

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AdamTheGreek wrote:It’s Fultz and it should not be this close. Suggs isn’t a point guard. Cole is best suited off the bench.


Why exactly Fultz is a point guard and Suggs not ?


He won't shoot, so he must be "unselfish". Honestly, if Fultz found 8 apg and got to the line, I'd shut up about the nonexistent shooting range. He's a PF who can handle really well.
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#149 » by AdamTheGreek » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:02 pm

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AdamTheGreek wrote:It’s Fultz and it should not be this close. Suggs isn’t a point guard. Cole is best suited off the bench.


Why exactly Fultz is a point guard and Suggs not ?


Court vision, decision making, very clutch late whether he shoots or dishes. Way better dribbler. He controls the tempo whereas Suggs is still figuring that out.
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#150 » by SOUL » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:20 pm

Skybox wrote:He won't shoot, so he must be "unselfish". Honestly, if Fultz found 8 apg and got to the line, I'd shut up about the nonexistent shooting range. He's a PF who can handle really well.


Not shooting threes is an issue but pretending that he doesn't get the team involved or doesn't do PG things like control tempo or set people up is being disingenuous. Raw assists aren't indicative of anything. We see how many people miss shots on the team because our shooting in general sucks.

Suggs cannot handle the ball. You can't have that as a lead ball handler no matter what else Suggs is great at.

Fultz also basically has the same usage as Wendell, good for 4th/5th most.

In fact, I'd say the only thing he doesn't really do out there is shoot threes. Obviously there are other smaller things because no player is perfect, but I'm talking about the big sticking point to most debates. It's a huge flaw, don't get me wrong, but one of the distastes I have when it comes to people talking about Fultz is when people are dismissing everything else because he isn't a great three point shooter.

His teammates love him, he's not killing the team even though our ceiling could be higher obviously with a better PG when we're contending or playoff hopefuls, and the big boogeyman that people keep bringing up is if we sign him or overpay him with an extension and don't look at any other point guards, which is a bit premature.
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#151 » by MasterGMer » Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:42 am

I think there is no reason for us to draft Thompson twins. First of all, we do not need another guard and if we have Fultz, there is no place for Amen or Asuar. I think Fultz does all those other things better, much better

As of right now, I say Fultz is the starting guard and he is playing well
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#152 » by KillMonger » Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:28 am

MasterGMer wrote:I think there is no reason for us to draft Thompson twins. First of all, we do not need another guard and if we have Fultz, there is no place for Amen or Asuar. I think Fultz does all those other things better, much better

As of right now, I say Fultz is the starting guard and he is playing well
Amen is more of a point and asuar is more of an off ball player.... I would love to have either, we're not in a situation to be dismissing talent

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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#153 » by MasterGMer » Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:31 am

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MasterGMer wrote:I think there is no reason for us to draft Thompson twins. First of all, we do not need another guard and if we have Fultz, there is no place for Amen or Asuar. I think Fultz does all those other things better, much better

As of right now, I say Fultz is the starting guard and he is playing well
Amen is more of a point and asuar is more of an off ball player.... I would love to have either, we're not in a situation to be dismissing talent

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I agree, they have talent, a lot of them. But add another guard? All we need is a wing and defensive big
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#154 » by KillMonger » Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:49 am

MasterGMer wrote:
KillMonger wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:I think there is no reason for us to draft Thompson twins. First of all, we do not need another guard and if we have Fultz, there is no place for Amen or Asuar. I think Fultz does all those other things better, much better

As of right now, I say Fultz is the starting guard and he is playing well
Amen is more of a point and asuar is more of an off ball player.... I would love to have either, we're not in a situation to be dismissing talent

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I agree, they have talent, a lot of them. But add another guard? All we need is a wing and defensive big

i respect your opinion....i just want the best talent where we pick....if that is one of the twins then so be it....if it's up to me i'm not going to pick a lesser talent just because they might fit better
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#155 » by MasterGMer » Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:58 am

KillMonger wrote:
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KillMonger wrote:Amen is more of a point and asuar is more of an off ball player.... I would love to have either, we're not in a situation to be dismissing talent

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I agree, they have talent, a lot of them. But add another guard? All we need is a wing and defensive big

i respect your opinion....i just want the best talent where we pick....if that is one of the twins then so be it....if it's up to me i'm not going to pick a lesser talent just because they might fit better


Everyone is complaining about Fultz because he can not shoot 3s well and he is a PG

Now we draft Thompson twins, another guard, who stinks at shooting 3s.

Who you letting go if that is the case we draft? Don't forget we still have Suggs, Cole and Gary. Someone has to go
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#156 » by jezzerinho » Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:52 am

MasterGMer wrote:
KillMonger wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:
I agree, they have talent, a lot of them. But add another guard? All we need is a wing and defensive big

i respect your opinion....i just want the best talent where we pick....if that is one of the twins then so be it....if it's up to me i'm not going to pick a lesser talent just because they might fit better


Everyone is complaining about Fultz because he can not shoot 3s well and he is a PG

Now we draft Thompson twins, another guard, who stinks at shooting 3s.

Who you letting go if that is the case we draft? Don't forget we still have Suggs, Cole and Gary. Someone has to go


There's a lot more wrong with Fultz than three point shooting. And he's had time to show he can learn to shoot (with his TOS) and has not done so.

The only thing stopping Amen from being an elite guard out the gate is his shooting. He hasn't yet had the opportunity to show he can learn to shoot. But in every other respect, he has the edge on Fultz from a potential perspective. Better potential playmaker, better pnr initiator, better defender, better rebounder, better iso scorer....

And, somewhat amazingly, the Thompsons are - like Fultz - great kids with a humble attitude and a huge work ethic.

Give Amen a serious injury and the playing field gets levelled fast. But right now, I'd have little hesitation in forecasting Amen will be a better player in time than Fultz has managed.
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#157 » by KillMonger » Sun Apr 2, 2023 2:01 am

Read on Twitter


Maybe it IS a physical problem , if he can still shoot his mid range form from 3pt range then why is he shooting it like a one motion shot? Because that shot right there looks similar to college kelle's jumper
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Post#158 » by MasterGMer » Sun Apr 2, 2023 2:08 am

KillMonger wrote:
Read on Twitter


Maybe it IS a physical problem , if he can still shoot his mid range form from 3pt range then why is he shooting it like a one motion shot? Because that shot right there looks similar to college kelle's jumper


I saw that also. If Fultz can shoot his 3s like his 2s, he is going to be a star one day
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Post#159 » by zaymon » Sun Apr 2, 2023 8:58 am

MasterGMer wrote:
KillMonger wrote:
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Maybe it IS a physical problem , if he can still shoot his mid range form from 3pt range then why is he shooting it like a one motion shot? Because that shot right there looks similar to college kelle's jumper


I saw that also. If Fultz can shoot his 3s like his 2s, he is going to be a star one day


If he can do it but not in a game situation its clearly a mental problem.
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Re: Who should be the starting point guard? 

Post#160 » by Petre1978 » Sun Apr 2, 2023 11:55 am

MasterGMer wrote:
KillMonger wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:I think there is no reason for us to draft Thompson twins. First of all, we do not need another guard and if we have Fultz, there is no place for Amen or Asuar. I think Fultz does all those other things better, much better

As of right now, I say Fultz is the starting guard and he is playing well
Amen is more of a point and asuar is more of an off ball player.... I would love to have either, we're not in a situation to be dismissing talent

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I agree, they have talent, a lot of them. But add another guard? All we need is a wing and defensive big

Which wings and bigs you have in mind?

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