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Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#141 » by Audi » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:41 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:Hayes getting waived is what happens when a draft pick doesn't develop, hence why I am worried for Black.


Why does that make you worried? The worry with Black is that he's buried on the bench but Killian had plenty of opportunity to develop. He started in 145 of his 210 career games, averaging 26 mpg. He's...just not very good.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#142 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:42 pm

I know nothing is going to happen or trading for a 2nd rounder at best.

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#143 » by VFX » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:42 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:
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The-Stallion70 wrote:Hayes getting waived is what happens when a draft pick doesn't develop, hence why I am worried for Black.


He got a lot of good chances and minutes, he just sucked. This should be a worry for any draft pick.

And Black has gotten chances too, not sure your point.


Did Hayes start during a 9 game winning streak sometime in his career, let alone as a rook?
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#144 » by The-Stallion70 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:43 pm

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The-Stallion70 wrote:Hayes getting waived is what happens when a draft pick doesn't develop, hence why I am worried for Black.


Why does that make you worried? The worry with Black is that he's buried on the bench but Killian had plenty of opportunity to develop. He started in 145 of his 210 career games, averaging 26 mpg. He's...just not very good.


So.... like Black then? He's had chances as well but lost the job. It's not hard to post a 58 ts% when your usage rate is 12%
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#145 » by Bensational » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:43 pm

WePark must really be playing hard ball on those draft picks with Washington.

"Ok, Fultz for Tyus swap, sure, but you want TWO 2nd round picks as well? I don't think so. You're gonna need be more considerate... Cash considerate."
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#146 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:44 pm

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davey_wavy wrote:We are in deep with Washington involving Tyus & Gafford but we will not include Suggs and that's the sticking point. I dont think it gets done


Dude, Gafford has been traded to Mavs already, wtf?


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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#147 » by SOUL » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:44 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:
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The-Stallion70 wrote:Hayes getting waived is what happens when a draft pick doesn't develop, hence why I am worried for Black.


He got a lot of good chances and minutes, he just sucked. This should be a worry for any draft pick.

And Black has gotten chances too, not sure your point.


Well, I'm trying to understand your statement lol. Is he not getting development time or not immediately good enough? I think he's shown great flashes but is still raw.. hardly time to worry.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#148 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:44 pm

Bensational wrote:WePark must really be playing hard ball on those draft picks with Washington.

"Ok, Fultz for Tyus swap, sure, but you want TWO 2nd round picks as well? I don't think so. You're gonna need be more considerate... Cash considerate."


What's holding it up is the pick doesn't convey if there is a player from Michigan available in the 2nd round.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#149 » by The-Stallion70 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:45 pm

Bensational wrote:WePark must really be playing hard ball on those draft picks with Washington.

"Ok, Fultz for Tyus swap, sure, but you want TWO 2nd round picks as well? I don't think so. You're gonna need be more considerate... Cash considerate."


"Chic fil a gift cards?"
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This trade wasn't some conspiracy - it was just a GM wanting AD bad enough where in most people's eyes he overpaid by a long shot to get him.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#150 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:45 pm

Bensational wrote:WePark must really be playing hard ball on those draft picks with Washington.

"Ok, Fultz for Tyus swap, sure, but you want TWO 2nd round picks as well? I don't think so. You're gonna need be more considerate... Cash considerate."

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#151 » by eyriq » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:45 pm

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#152 » by Audi » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:45 pm

Weltman is having issues with cell service on his Jitterbug
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#153 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:45 pm

McDermott to Pacers for a 2nd
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#154 » by Knightro » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:46 pm

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#155 » by eyriq » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:46 pm

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#156 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:46 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:McDermott to Pacers for a 2nd


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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#157 » by basketballRob » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:47 pm

Weltman can give a press conference later saying he likes the team and wants to evaluate them some more.

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#158 » by BlueBalls » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:47 pm

We need a new FO. Could have easily improved the team today without giving up anything of great import.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

Post#159 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Feb 8, 2024 7:47 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:
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The-Stallion70 wrote:Hayes getting waived is what happens when a draft pick doesn't develop, hence why I am worried for Black.


Why does that make you worried? The worry with Black is that he's buried on the bench but Killian had plenty of opportunity to develop. He started in 145 of his 210 career games, averaging 26 mpg. He's...just not very good.


So.... like Black then? He's had chances as well but lost the job. It's not hard to post a 58 ts% when your usage rate is 12%

He lost his spot to Fultz who is a better game manager and does the little things better. Which is obvious since he's a vet and Black is a rookie.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 - Nothing is Happening 

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