Welcome 2x NBA Champion KCP!

[MoMM]

It is all about team play, not just one player running around with the ball chucking shots.

KCP gonna prove 'em wrong!!!

Now that the roster is fully rolled-back, what we can see is that Caldwell-Pope replaces Fultz. Or in other words, the Magic replaced 0.2 made threeballs at a 0.222 efficiency rate with 1.9 threeballs at a 0.406 efficiency rate.

Caldwell-Pope and Fultz had a nearly identical FGA attempt line per year, and the above fact meant that Caldwell-Pope scored 2.3 ppg more than Fultz.

At a very simply level, the Magic is a 2ppg better team offensively. That's HUGE. These lonely 2 points would have taken the Magic from being the 15th best team in point differential to 7th.

Last year, that would have gotten the Magic to about 51 wins. Which would have been, the Eastern #2 seed.

And this excludes the positive effect Caldwell-Pope will have on opening the interior for Banchero and F-Wagner (and their expected natural improvements).

Also: Caldwell-Pope slotted in to Fultz salary line. So there is no cap-change to add these 2 points. Genius move by management!

You forgot to mention in terms of D, which KCP is better than Fultz as well.

[Skybox]

given that we have NO Jamal Murray here...I really hope KCP (and Suggs) ups his 3pta's significantly in ORL. Collecting 40% guys is certainly a good thing but we have to make them hunt shots more aggressively.

[GelbeWand09]

It is all about team play, not just one player running around with the ball chucking shots.

KCP gonna prove 'em wrong!!!

Now that the roster is fully rolled-back, what we can see is that Caldwell-Pope replaces Fultz. Or in other words, the Magic replaced 0.2 made threeballs at a 0.222 efficiency rate with 1.9 threeballs at a 0.406 efficiency rate.

Caldwell-Pope and Fultz had a nearly identical FGA attempt line per year, and the above fact meant that Caldwell-Pope scored 2.3 ppg more than Fultz.

At a very simply level, the Magic is a 2ppg better team offensively. That's HUGE. These lonely 2 points would have taken the Magic from being the 15th best team in point differential to 7th.

Last year, that would have gotten the Magic to about 51 wins. Which would have been, the Eastern #2 seed.

And this excludes the positive effect Caldwell-Pope will have on opening the interior for Banchero and F-Wagner (and their expected natural improvements).

Also: Caldwell-Pope slotted in to Fultz salary line. So there is no cap-change to add these 2 points. Genius move by management!

Thats not how it works. KCP replaces Harris in the starting lineup who took as many 3's as KCP last season. Now he plays much less, so he takes less 3's. The biggest amount of time KCP replaces is not Fultz, but Harris minutes. You cant just add the 3's of the new player and ignore that the player (a good 3Point shooter) he replaces takes less 3's now.
This team wont be a good 3point shooting team as long as Franz/Paolo are bad at it. It doesnt matter much if you add another low/mid volume SG for another in the starting lineup.
Why should KCP provide more spacing for Franz/Paolo is another mystery for me. Harris is known as a 3&D player in the leaque, like KCP. Both took the same amount of 3's per game. No team gonna defend KCP differently than Harris.

[tooler]

Thats not how it works. KCP replaces Harris in the starting lineup who took as many 3's as KCP last season. Now he plays much less, so he takes less 3's. The biggest amount of time KCP replaces is not Fultz, but Harris minutes. You cant just add the 3's of the new player and ignore that the player (a good 3Point shooter) he replaces takes less 3's now.
This team wont be a good 3point shooting team as long as Franz/Paolo are bad at it. It doesnt matter much if you add another low/mid volume SG for another in the starting lineup.
Why should KCP provide more spacing for Franz/Paolo is another mystery for me. Harris is known as a 3&D player in the leaque, like KCP. Both took the same amount of 3's per game. No team gonna defend KCP differently than Harris.

What he meant was that with the context of re-signing Harris, KCP indirectly replaces Fultz's minutes. Of course, Fultz didn't play many games or minutes, so the math doesn't work out exactly the same way.

You're right that all that really matters is Paolo and Franz improving at 3s. But it's nice to have multiple 37-41% 3PT shooters in the rotation. It's better than nothing. If coach can get them to increase their volume at the expense of a little rim pressure, I think it will help our offense. That's my hope.

[JoshuaPotter]

Thats not how it works. KCP replaces Harris in the starting lineup who took as many 3's as KCP last season. Now he plays much less, so he takes less 3's. The biggest amount of time KCP replaces is not Fultz, but Harris minutes. You cant just add the 3's of the new player and ignore that the player (a good 3Point shooter) he replaces takes less 3's now.
This team wont be a good 3point shooting team as long as Franz/Paolo are bad at it. It doesnt matter much if you add another low/mid volume SG for another in the starting lineup.
Why should KCP provide more spacing for Franz/Paolo is another mystery for me. Harris is known as a 3&D player in the leaque, like KCP. Both took the same amount of 3's per game. No team gonna defend KCP differently than Harris.

What he meant was that with the context of re-signing Harris, KCP indirectly replaces Fultz's minutes. Of course, Fultz didn't play many games or minutes, so the math doesn't work out exactly the same way.

You're right that all that really matters is Paolo and Franz improving at 3s. But it's nice to have multiple 37-41% 3PT shooters in the rotation. It's better than nothing. If coach can get them to increase their volume at the expense of a little rim pressure, I think it will help our offense. That's my hope.

The defensive game plan has always been collapse on either Paolo / Franz and dare our shooters to shoot. We are slowly addressing the "dare part" by adding known shooters around our 2 shot creators. It will be messy probably for another year or two, but it will be good enough to create havoc I think.

Yes, Paolo and especially Franz still need to increase their personal 3-ball % if this offense is to have any championship contention, as-is, it would be messy but I think we get out of the first round just fine.

[yoyojw17]

https://youtu.be/Yse9N6h3Qd4?si=51HhDWU5yaIX-GHu

Good watch! Denver podcasters.... Giving Magic props and thinking Denver **** themselves in the foot.

[Residual-Heat]

Was watching some KCP highlights from the Nuggets' championship season last year. KCP and Bruce Brown played really well off each other it seems on both sides of the court, but mostly defensively. Should be even better with Suggs.

[Residual-Heat]

Im watching this podcast with JJ and KCP

Watch on YouTube

if you go to the 20:00 mark, and listen to KCP's answer to JJ's question, it seems to me like part of the reason KCP left the Nuggets might be because he feels like he should have a bigger role on offense? It seems to me that he felt like he needs to become a great shooter and relished that 3&D role in Denver because he felt it was part of his evolution into a more complete player. Maybe he believes he will have a bigger role with the Magic? I can definitely see the Magic giving him more ball handling duties than the Nuggets did.

His last season with the Pistons, he averaged 3.5 pick n roll plays per game, this season he averaged 0.8 with the Nuggets. If you trust NBA.com stats, KCP was in the 70th percentile as a pick n roll ball-handler that season with the Pistons.

My guess is we probably see KCP average near career high in points and assists this season. We'll see if he can do it efficiently.

[Skin]

Oh great, we signed Paul George for $66M!

[Skybox]

Im watching this podcast with JJ and KCP

Watch on YouTube

if you go to the 20:00 mark, and listen to KCP's answer to JJ's question, it seems to me like part of the reason KCP left the Nuggets might be because he feels like he should have a bigger role on offense? It seems to me that he felt like he needs to become a great shooter and relished that 3&D role in Denver because he felt it was part of his evolution into a more complete player. Maybe he believes he will have a bigger role with the Magic? I can definitely see the Magic giving him more ball handling duties than the Nuggets did.

His last season with the Pistons, he averaged 3.5 pick n roll plays per game, this season he averaged 0.8 with the Nuggets. If you trust NBA.com stats, KCP was in the 70th percentile as a pick n roll ball-handler that season with the Pistons.

My guess is we probably see KCP average near career high in points and assists this season. We'll see if he can do it efficiently.

That would be tremendous…we’ll be missing Jingles’ PnR passing and, imo, Paolo’s greatest aspiration should be more towards Jokic and away from Randle…KCP might help Paolo see the floor a little better. Also, it’s reasonable to expect that more reliable shooting means more assists for our primary paint-crashers. Kicking out to an open Fultz is not an assist…same pass to KCP likely is.

[yoyojw17]

Im watching this podcast with JJ and KCP

Watch on YouTube

if you go to the 20:00 mark, and listen to KCP's answer to JJ's question, it seems to me like part of the reason KCP left the Nuggets might be because he feels like he should have a bigger role on offense? It seems to me that he felt like he needs to become a great shooter and relished that 3&D role in Denver because he felt it was part of his evolution into a more complete player. Maybe he believes he will have a bigger role with the Magic? I can definitely see the Magic giving him more ball handling duties than the Nuggets did.

His last season with the Pistons, he averaged 3.5 pick n roll plays per game, this season he averaged 0.8 with the Nuggets. If you trust NBA.com stats, KCP was in the 70th percentile as a pick n roll ball-handler that season with the Pistons.

My guess is we probably see KCP average near career high in points and assists this season. We'll see if he can do it efficiently.

KCP bout to level us up! Haha. But yeah ... That good to hear. Hope that he's afforded the space to continue flourishing... But still stays true to the things that he's being hyped about now.

KCP and Suggs are about to be an impressive and dangerous backcourt. Efficiencies of the opposing team will take a hit as their guards are bottled up by those two. People say that this is a "guard league"... And we will be starting our fight with punches at the point of attack for most teams.

Excited to see this season get on the way. So much growth will happen with this team... A lot of which has been overlooked especially since Franz and Paolo have gotten so good so quickly. Both have a ton of room to grow on both sides of the court.

[SHAQ32]

Things aren't going to be as opened up in this offense compared to Denver. That's for sure.

[Knightro]

Things aren't going to be as opened up in this offense compared to Denver. That's for sure.

No they won’t be. But KCP still shot the ball very well for the Wizards before he got to Denver and they didn’t exactly have a great roster generating a ton of easy and open looks for him.

[SHAQ32]

Things aren't going to be as opened up in this offense compared to Denver. That's for sure.

No they won’t be. But KCP still shot the ball very well for the Wizards before he got to Denver and they didn’t exactly have a great roster generating a ton of easy and open looks for him.

If we're trusting single one-off seasons then go for it.

He shot the ball well in LA too, but again most of that is going back to dependable offensive systems.

[basketballRob]

I think he's the SG version of DJ Augustin with better defense.

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[Skybox]

Things aren't going to be as opened up in this offense compared to Denver. That's for sure.

No they won’t be. But KCP still shot the ball very well for the Wizards before he got to Denver and they didn’t exactly have a great roster generating a ton of easy and open looks for him.

I'm not sure I agree...Jokic is a generational passer but as far as open looks, Paolo & Franz certainly seem like the types that can draw a lot of attention + they can both shoot it too (Franz is way better than he finished -I believe). Now, theoretically, ALL 5 starters are legit 3pt threats and two of them are all-star level 6'10 ball handlers that drive through traffic in the paint...there could be a really revolutionary improvement to our offense if everyone moves the ball, makes that extra swing for the best shot, and (of course) hits them when they take them...we didn't have that kind of ball movement and certainly didn't have the shooting that KCP brings (and we hope that Suggs continues to provide).

DEN's gravity is almost exclusively provided by Jokic. Murray is often playing like a superstar, but he's not the same kind of 3-level threat that Paolo and Franz are - most of Murray's damage is from the perimeter. I don't know KCP's degree of leadership or communication, but he could bring a lot of wisdom to our team on both ends.

[drsd]

If we're trusting single one-off seasons then go for it.

He shot the ball well in LA too, but again most of that is going back to dependable offensive systems.

The Magic's vegas odds to win the title doubled when Cadwell-Pope was inked. That must mean something!

[SHAQ32]

If we're trusting single one-off seasons then go for it.

He shot the ball well in LA too, but again most of that is going back to dependable offensive systems.

The Magic's vegas odds to win the title doubled when Cadwell-Pope was inked. That must mean something!

You're saying KCP is the most impactful player on this team.

[Knightro]

Things aren't going to be as opened up in this offense compared to Denver. That's for sure.

No they won’t be. But KCP still shot the ball very well for the Wizards before he got to Denver and they didn’t exactly have a great roster generating a ton of easy and open looks for him.

If we're trusting single one-off seasons then go for it.

He shot the ball well in LA too, but again most of that is going back to dependable offensive systems.

I get it. The point I was making it would be that if he had played his entire career with Jokic, then I would be a little more hesitant about his ability to translate on another team.

But he has played on a lot of different teams and shot the ball well in a lot of different systems which makes me think that he’s just a good shooter.

[p0peye]

Our team is better sans Fultz and plus KCP. I am not sure if that betterment is meaningful, if everything else remains same as past season.