Suggs out for the season and postseason after knee surgery

[Optimus_Steel]

A mosaicplasty is a much more significant surgery than just a knee scope to remove a cartilage fragment.

I hate this teams ownership and front office.

[basketballRob]

I'm glad they are keeping Suggs out for the season.

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[Knightro]

I'm glad they are keeping Suggs out for the season.

They're not keeping him out.

Mosaicplasty is like a 5-6 month rehab

[JoshuaPotter]

I'm glad they are keeping Suggs out for the season.

They're not keeping him out.

Mosaicplasty is like a 5-6 month rehab

The hush hush policy is not a good look about now.

[eyriq]

I'm glad they are keeping Suggs out for the season.

They're not keeping him out.

Mosaicplasty is like a 5-6 month rehab

The hush hush policy is not a good look about now.

It's never been a good look. They got way too much credit for the Paolo draft. I think they use this as an excuse for being disconnected from the broader NBA network, to me it just looks like they're trying to build a cult and a freak show.

[Fortune Teller]

So we are witnessing in real time how unserious Jeff and this whole organization are. Even setting aside reports that Jeff wasn't making calls at the trade deadline, he has now seen 2 of his top-4 scorers go down with season-ending injuries and hasn't done anything to try to replace either one of them. I don't know what this team's priorities are, but winning isn't one of them.

[JoshuaPotter]

So we are witnessing in real time how unserious Jeff and this whole organization are. Even setting aside reports that Jeff wasn't making calls at the trade deadline, he has now seen 2 of his top-4 scorers go down with season-ending injuries and hasn't done anything to try to replace either one of them. I don't know what this team's priorities are, but winning isn't one of them.

Winning this year definitely isn't.

[three3d]

So we are witnessing in real time how unserious Jeff and this whole organization are. Even setting aside reports that Jeff wasn't making calls at the trade deadline, he has now seen 2 of his top-4 scorers go down with season-ending injuries and hasn't done anything to try to replace either one of them. I don't know what this team's priorities are, but winning isn't one of them.

The land development around KIA Center is #1 priority, funneling money out of owning an NBA team is the way they do it

[3ddman23]

Is josh Robbins covering the magic again?

[AdamTheGreek]

Is josh Robbins covering the magic again?

No, but because the Wizards suck he’s been making trips down here.

I knew this wasn’t going to be a 2-month thing.

We’ll be fortunate if Suggs is ready by training camp.
But the nightmare is this is an offseason where he won’t be able to improve his game much, it’s greatly physical therapy.

We need some clarification in regards to MRIs.
My assumption is he got an MRI after he went down in the Detroit game, but knee cartilage was not the focus. Either:
1. Suggs thought quad and the training staff operated based on that and it was not on the radar.
OR
2. The knee issue didn’t appear in the first MRI. Then during rehab maybe a setback happened or Suggs mentioned knee pain, and then it came up in the second MRI.

The training staff has questions to answer knowing how bizarre it also was that both Franz and Paolo suffered similar rare oblique tears.

[OrlandoDream]

Sigh what a disappointing and frustrating season. Its such a gut punch after coming out of such a high on 23-24 season. At this point, I just hope Paolo/Franz dot sustain another serious injury and just reload for next year. One thing is for sure. Dont get attached to many players outside Paolo/Franz/Jalen bc some serious changes are coming.

[JF5]

A mosaicplasty is a much more significant surgery than just a knee scope to remove a cartilage fragment.

I hate this teams ownership and front office.

I saw the mechanics of it... they take tissue/cartilage from one part of the knee and put it in the damaged area.

I think this mechanism is to prolong Suggs career, essentially. Him having a simple surgery of removing the cartilage and adding foreign stints mightve had him run into issues 3-5 years down the line.

Plus, I'm assuming Suggs team decided to go for this surgery which totally makes sense.

I'm just not happy about the time table. He won't get development time.

[three3d]

I’m not buying the timeline of this injury at all, in the medical staff have some serious questions to answer. Game 2 of the Cavs series Suggs hurt that same knee pretty good and missed no time. Suggs second season in the preseason he hurt that same knee pretty badly and was expected to miss some regular season yet he was back in 12 days to start out the regular season. Things don’t look right or add up.

[Rainwater]

I’ll repeat it again for the people at the back: incompetence

I can't blame the organization too much a cartilage defect is not something that typically happens overnight. Unless caused by a major incident, cartilage defects occur over years of impact.

[Rainwater]

A mosaicplasty is a much more significant surgery than just a knee scope to remove a cartilage fragment.

Yeah, this injury is kinda serious. He seems like he had a cartilage defect. Back in day a cartilage defect was a death sentence for many players as they would often attempt to correct the injury with microfracture surgery which did not have the best results and ended many player's careers prematurely like T-Mac and Amare. Due to the failure of microfracture, new procedures are being used such as Macis and OATS. As these treatments are new, they are experimental in the sense that many NBA players have not had them. I have never heard of mosaicplasty, but I had the Maci's procedure done on both my knees, and I have to wait a year before I am allowed to run. So, 6 months seems kinda quick compared to my situation. Lonzo had a similar injury (in addition to a mencius transplant) and that took him 9 months before he could start doing activities.

Given the history of the guys who have suffered cartilage defects I am shocked people are not asking if Suggs comes back the same player.

[Skybox]

A mosaicplasty is a much more significant surgery than just a knee scope to remove a cartilage fragment.

Yeah, this injury is kinda serious. He seems like he had a cartilage defect. Back in day a cartilage defect was a death sentence for many players as they would often attempt to correct the injury with microfracture surgery which did not have the best results and ended many player's careers prematurely like T-Mac and Amare. Due to the failure of microfracture, new procedures are being used such as Macis and OATS. As these treatments are new, they are experimental. I have never of heard of mosaicplasty, but I had the Maci's procedure done on my both my knees, and I have to wait a whole year before I am allowed to run. So, 6 months seems kinda quick compared to my situation. Lonzo had a similar injury (in addition to a mencius transplant) and that took him 9 months before he could start doing activities.

Given the history of the guys who have suffered cartilage defects I am shocked people are not asking if Suggs comes back the same player.

THAT has certainly occurred to me I wish him the best.

From a GM perspective, you better pray…because his giant extension kicks in and his trade value is certainly questionable. I’m pretty reconciled to the idea that our big 3 is here to stay anyway (not complaining about that despite my love for the Trade Machine). Likeliest end to the trio is Paolo asking out if Weltman does nothing substantial this summer (which I don’t think is really likely) or a medical retirement. Get well Jalen!

[AdamTheGreek]

I’ll repeat it again for the people at the back: incompetence

I can't blame the organization too much a cartilage defect is not something that typically happens overnight. Unless caused by a major incident, cartilage defects occur over years of impact.

He’s been limping since at least 2022 and had various other leg injuries during that time. We’re on multiple medical staffs and head trainers during that timeline.
Suggs toughening out injuries and maybe not fully sharing or being able to explain his pain likely plays a part in this as well, but this was a medical miss.
It’s why if a team wants to trade for him as we seek to upgrade our roster (and have to get also rid of some not great players), Suggs has to be on the table for being dealt out now. His extension kicks in July 1st, that’s when you can start trade talks.

[Rainwater]

I’ll repeat it again for the people at the back: incompetence

I can't blame the organization too much a cartilage defect is not something that typically happens overnight. Unless caused by a major incident, cartilage defects occur over years of impact.

He’s been limping since at least 2022 and had various other leg injuries during that time. We’re on multiple medical staffs and head trainers during that timeline.
Suggs toughening out injuries and maybe not fully sharing or being able to explain his pain likely plays a part in this as well, but this was a medical miss.
It’s why if a team wants to trade for him as we seek to upgrade our roster (and have to get also rid of some not great players), Suggs has to be on the table for being dealt out now. His extension kicks in July 1st, that’s when you can start trade talks.

Suggs complained about this knee discomfort just recently. To my knowledge he hasn’t said it has been a consistent problem. If he had, a MRI would have been done sooner since that is the best way to find soft tissue damage which a cartilage defect is.

I just find it hard to believe in this era of time “time management”, where teams are actively sitting out players and being more cautious than ever and players are begging to play, that the magic played Suggs knowing he was injured. It just sound more like a conspiracy than reality. It would especially be weird since the Magic have a history taking it slow with injuries.

[Rainwater]

This is what Jalen is dealing with, it seems like it’s one of those OATs surgeries.

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[ORLMagicGirl15]

A mosaicplasty is a much more significant surgery than just a knee scope to remove a cartilage fragment.

Yeah, this injury is kinda serious. He seems like he had a cartilage defect. Back in day a cartilage defect was a death sentence for many players as they would often attempt to correct the injury with microfracture surgery which did not have the best results and ended many player's careers prematurely like T-Mac and Amare. Due to the failure of microfracture, new procedures are being used such as Macis and OATS. As these treatments are new, they are experimental in the sense that many NBA players have not had them. I have never heard of mosaicplasty, but I had the Maci's procedure done on both my knees, and I have to wait a year before I am allowed to run. So, 6 months seems kinda quick compared to my situation. Lonzo had a similar injury (in addition to a mencius transplant) and that took him 9 months before he could start doing activities.

Given the history of the guys who have suffered cartilage defects I am shocked people are not asking if Suggs comes back the same player.

We don’t want Suggs to come back the same reckless player. Because he has great defensive instincts, he’ll just have to figure out how to impact the game after this surgery without being able to go full 100% Jalen Suggs. I know he was playing through injury but this man’s pain tolerance has to be through the roof.