2025 NBA Draft Thread 2.0

[RookieStar]

Only if Isaac is gone. The minutes for him arent really there otherwise and TDS/Caleb exist still.

Kalkbrenner, Wolf, or Raynaud if Goga or Carter can be moved for something else to help the back court in a deal.

I think Fleming plays more Pf/C in the NBA. He is almost same height as Naz Reid but a lot longer wingspan.

He’d do good under the tutelage of Isaac next year, Imo. Moe will be out until December.

TDS for me is more SF than PF. What the hell is Caleb? I honestly don’t think he can match vs opposing PFs.

JI is high risk and potential salary that can be repurposed. I like Fleming a lot and if or when he flourishes JI is not as valuable to us on the court.

JI’s body has a ton of miles on it.

TDS and Caleb are what i would like to call... Slow Wings in the NBA. Sure they can bomb from 3s
But they are too slow for the 3 spot and too weak for the 4 spot.

I wanna see what TDS is doing this offseason though. Is he increasing his lateral speed or is he guzzling hi protein shakes to bang with the 4s.

[fendilim]

I think we are at the era again where undersized C are going extinct. 6'8 C? Where the contenders Cs are all 6'10 barefoot and above?

Well, if you project him to be a starter to replace WCJ, sure, you have a point.

But his standing reach isn’t bad for a center, tbh. Naz reid is only 1/4” taller and only 7’0” wingspan, and he aint bad.

Nazr reid is 6'9 260lbs.. Sure Flemming could be an effectivrle backup C in 3years minimum. He doesnt have the body to bang with nba bodies yet after all.

However you did insinuate that we need a bench C for next season since Moe will be back January. And no way can Flemming be that next season.

Rasheer is like 240lbs at this point, adding 15 lbs of muscle is easy in one offseason. But I dont think he does especially as a JI replacement. JI didnt play C for us most of the time. Moe was the one playing C and so did Goga.

You get fleming, in preparation to move JI, to pair with Moe.

tds is more of a 3, and so is caleb.

You can play fleming at C for spot minutes, but most of the time, he’ll play backup to paolo.

[RookieStar]

Well, if you project him to be a starter to replace WCJ, sure, you have a point.

But his standing reach isn’t bad for a center, tbh. Naz reid is only 1/4” taller and only 7’0” wingspan, and he aint bad.

Nazr reid is 6'9 260lbs.. Sure Flemming could be an effectivrle backup C in 3years minimum. He doesnt have the body to bang with nba bodies yet after all.

However you did insinuate that we need a bench C for next season since Moe will be back January. And no way can Flemming be that next season.

Rasheer is like 240lbs at this point, adding 15 lbs of muscle is easy in one offseason. But I dont think he does especially as a JI replacement. JI didnt play C for us most of the time. Moe was the one playing C and so did Goga.

You get fleming, in preparation to move JI, to pair with Moe.

tds is more of a 3, and so is caleb.

You can play fleming at C for spot minutes, but most of the time, he’ll play backup to paolo.

Yeah.... no. I would bet you that those rookies with 240lbs weight gonna get bullied by 225-230lbs NBA bodies. Also.. you can bet the calls wont go their way.

[fendilim]

Nazr reid is 6'9 260lbs.. Sure Flemming could be an effectivrle backup C in 3years minimum. He doesnt have the body to bang with nba bodies yet after all.

However you did insinuate that we need a bench C for next season since Moe will be back January. And no way can Flemming be that next season.

Rasheer is like 240lbs at this point, adding 15 lbs of muscle is easy in one offseason. But I dont think he does especially as a JI replacement. JI didnt play C for us most of the time. Moe was the one playing C and so did Goga.

You get fleming, in preparation to move JI, to pair with Moe.

tds is more of a 3, and so is caleb.

You can play fleming at C for spot minutes, but most of the time, he’ll play backup to paolo.

Yeah.... no. I would bet you that those rookies with 240lbs weight gonna get bullied by 225-230lbs NBA bodies. Also.. you can bet the calls wont go their way.

Sure, but Rasheer fleming isnt exactly young for a rookie. He’d do alright.

Guys like Goga, wcj, Moe gets the matchup against the bruisers.

[RookieStar]

Rasheer is like 240lbs at this point, adding 15 lbs of muscle is easy in one offseason. But I dont think he does especially as a JI replacement. JI didnt play C for us most of the time. Moe was the one playing C and so did Goga.

You get fleming, in preparation to move JI, to pair with Moe.

tds is more of a 3, and so is caleb.

You can play fleming at C for spot minutes, but most of the time, he’ll play backup to paolo.

Yeah.... no. I would bet you that those rookies with 240lbs weight gonna get bullied by 225-230lbs NBA bodies. Also.. you can bet the calls wont go their way.

Sure, but Rasheer fleming isnt exactly young for a rookie. He’d do alright.

Guys like Goga, wcj, Moe gets the matchup against the bruisers.

Yeah.. which is our problem. We have no effective matchup againt bruisers. Our nearest one is WCJ and he is 6'10 at most. He the bulk to bang but Zubac KP Biid etc just shoots over him.

Goga too thin and weak. He jumps and challenges but he just gets backed down with ease.

Moe would probably flop the first bump.

JI... yeah no way should he even think about banging down low.

Ideally its Paolo.. 6'10ish 250lb and good defense. But its career and franchise suicide to ask him to do that.

[fendilim]

Yeah.... no. I would bet you that those rookies with 240lbs weight gonna get bullied by 225-230lbs NBA bodies. Also.. you can bet the calls wont go their way.

Sure, but Rasheer fleming isnt exactly young for a rookie. He’d do alright.

Guys like Goga, wcj, Moe gets the matchup against the bruisers.

Yeah.. which is our problem. We have no effective matchup againt bruisers. Our nearest one is WCJ and he is 6'10 at most. He the bulk to bang but Zubac KP Biid etc just shoots over him.

Goga too thin and weak. He jumps and challenges but he just gets backed down with ease.

Moe would probably flop the first bump.

JI... yeah no way should he even think about banging down low.

Ideally its Paolo.. 6'10ish 250lb and good defense. But its career and franchise suicide to ask him to do that.

I like it more when Goga was bulkier. He lost weight thinking he’ll be more switchable.

[yoyojw17]

Well, if you project him to be a starter to replace WCJ, sure, you have a point.

But his standing reach isn’t bad for a center, tbh. Naz reid is only 1/4” taller and only 7’0” wingspan, and he aint bad.

Nazr reid is 6'9 260lbs.. Sure Flemming could be an effectivrle backup C in 3years minimum. He doesnt have the body to bang with nba bodies yet after all.

However you did insinuate that we need a bench C for next season since Moe will be back January. And no way can Flemming be that next season.

Rasheer is like 240lbs at this point, adding 15 lbs of muscle is easy in one offseason. But I dont think he does especially as a JI replacement. JI didnt play C for us most of the time. Moe was the one playing C and so did Goga.

You get fleming, in preparation to move JI, to pair with Moe.

tds is more of a 3, and so is caleb.

You can play fleming at C for spot minutes, but most of the time, he’ll play backup to paolo.

Oh..... Thanks for writing this up. Haha.

Was thinking about that today. IF Walter Clayton is gone.... And Fleming is by chance available..... I am totally down to adding him in this year.
Make huge run this yearand possibly the next.... Hopefully ... With JI having a bounce back season or 2... And yup ..... Slide Fleming in. This would be a great outcome.... Dependent on his growth.

[RichCollab]

I’m in on Flemming. JI can be back up PF until Flemming displaces him.

[Knightro]

There’s a lot of different ways this pick could go.

Really they could take any position and make it make sense as far as I’m concerned.

[RookieStar]

There’s a lot of different ways this pick could go.

Really they could take any position and make it make sense as far as I’m concerned.

Who would be your pick that would be a head-scratcher for all of us?

[The Effect]

Im sure im in the minority, but the closer we get to draft day, the more i want Kalkbrenner at 25

[KillMonger]

For #25 Get a big man for depth, then stick him in osceloa when moe gets back

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[cedric76]

My board at #25

Raynaud
Richardson
Clayton jr
Fleming
Powell

one of them should fall there at #25


Espn has:

Raynaud -25
Richardson -16
Clayton jr-29
Fleming -27
Powell-28

Yahoo has:
Raynaud - 23
Richardson -12
Clayton jr -30
Fleming -25
Powell -22

Theringer:
Raynaud - 31
Richardson - 24
Clayton jr -25
Fleming -22
Powell- 21

Locked on bigboard:
Raynaud - 18
Richardson -20
Clayton jr -25
Fleming - 13
Powell -22

In each mock, at least one is available

[Orl_Magic]

Raynaud will have to play drop coverage like Vooch and that sends shivers down my spine. I can still remember teams shooting wide open 3s while Vooch was back peddling.

We lost 2 PGs we need another ball handler. Jase or WCjr. for me

[cedric76]

Raynaud will have to play drop coverage like Vooch and that sends shivers down my spine. I can still remember teams shooting wide open 3s while Vooch was back peddling.

We lost 2 PGs we need another ball handler. Jase or WCjr. for me

Raynaud is very underrated imo

He is faster and a FAR better shot blocker than people think

[pepe1991]

Imo we have to either draft PF/C or find another big for depth.

Wendell and Isaac are injury prone (that's kindest take possible lol) Moe, if retained, post ACL tear for start will miss like 50 games, and we all know history with ACL tears, it's 1 year out + 1 years until player actually gains ground and returns confidence in his leg.

Goga can only play C, Mosley didn't trust him in playoffs.

[RookieStar]

Raynaud will have to play drop coverage like Vooch and that sends shivers down my spine. I can still remember teams shooting wide open 3s while Vooch was back peddling.

We lost 2 PGs we need another ball handler. Jase or WCjr. for me

Raynaud is very underrated imo

He is faster and a FAR better shot blocker than people think

Yeah... of all the Cs in he draft combine.. Raynaud had the fastest lame agility so that means he can move.

Also... he defends and is willing to throw his body trying to block shots as examplofied by him being the recepient od Cooper Flaggs first poster.

[Knightro]

There’s a lot of different ways this pick could go.

Really they could take any position and make it make sense as far as I’m concerned.

Who would be your pick that would be a head-scratcher for all of us?

I would be somewhat surprised if they opted for someone extremely young and many years away from positively contributing, even if that player has a very high upside.

A lot of the the international guys like like Joan Beringer, Ben Saraf, Hugo Gonzalez who are several years away from really giving you winning minutes.

I think, right or wrong, they're more likely to opt for an older prospect who they think could potentially give them capable minutes immediately if called upon like a Walter Clayton or Maxime Raynaud type.

[Skybox]

I do think upgrading or at least re-working our C rotation is a priority...whether through the draft or trade or cheap FA signing. If Raynaud somehow lands at 25 - fantastic! I would take Richardson over him, but I don't think he'll drop THAT far.

If there's not an obvious quality big available, I'm still looking for the scoring guard that I can pair with AB behind Suggs/Bane...it sure would have been nice if Jett showed up, but I'm far from counting on that. Jett Black should have been the answer, but...it hasn't.

At that spot, I like:
Richardson
Will Riley
Clayton

and I think there are other guards worth a swing in the second round, particularly:
Nembhard
Proctor
Powell
Brea
Kam Jones
Lanier

I'd trade it as part of a legit C upgrade like Gafford or Kessler, but I don't see those developing

[shadrock]

Random thought: why dont we talk to Minny about a sign and trade of Nas Reid to Orlando for Wcj and salary filler?