tiderulz wrote:pepe1991 wrote:tiderulz wrote:and a pick in 2029. and those picks given up would have been non-lottery picks anyways. East is so weak, we would be making the playoffs.
so we have 1st in 2025, 2027, 2029. And there is almost always a late 1st available for sale by some team.
Wish we had a bit more playmaking, but I'll hold off til i see the on court product. Bane avg'd 5+ apg for past 3 years.
His playmaking goes away in playoffs as Memphis never had offensive rating in playoffs ( with him as lead guy pretty much every season, split duty with Morant) - better than 5th worst, including the worst OFF rating this year.
4 first round picks with pretty much no protection, including Suns pick that can turn into very juicy one is still such an overpay for player that isn't clean cut superstar.
LIke, that trade frame was same as for Kevin Durant trade to Nets, when Durant was top 3 player.
We do it for guy who isn't even top 20.
As i said, this is panic trade made by person who can smell smoke as his as* is getting hotter on that hot chair, being in line to be fired.
Magic are now turning into top heavy team, with no bench and without any ability to add young , cheap talent other than second round picks ( imagine if somebody didn't treat them as picket money for owners... for 8 years... hm...)
Magic are now also in position to be in luxury, probably in second apron.
Without any pick to trade, to lower salary Magic will be in position to do their "Middelton for Kuzma and drafted player" sooner or later, because you can't keep second apron bill for longer than year without getting screwed by league.
Like, Magic salary cap in 2026-27 will be $190M for 6 players ( potentially more if Banchero, Franz, Suggs or Bane get their 5% bonus).
you keep saying "4 first round picks with no protection" but one of those is #16 this year, and the PHX pick is the leftover pick after Washington can swap, and from what i read top-8 protected. so its really 2 unprotected picks on a team that will compete for a top-4 spot in the playoffs. stop being melodramatic like we are giving up 4 top-5 picks. and unprotected pick in the 20's is just a pick in the 20's.
Didn't Knightro ( or myself) explained this 200 times already?
top 8 protection does not mean Suns top 8 protection but Wizards .
Wizards technically don't hold own pick, it belongs to Knicks if it falls outside top 8 ( that's why that top 8 protection is always mentioned).
But Wizards will continue to suck as they have roster made out of teenagers.
With Durant on exit doors, on crazy West where you need 50 wins just to make playin, Suns have no objective chance at making playoffs with dead cap of Brad Beal.
So Suns will be lottery team and so will Wizards. Wizards will have ability to switch picks with Suns if Suns have better lottery position, after that Magic ( now Grizzlies) will have ability to swap own pick with worst of Wizards/ Suns picks ( regardless of Wizards - Suns swapping or not ).
Esencially, Magic gave up 2026 pick. Without protection, because it can literally be as good as 2# pick. It only can't be 1# pick.
2028, 2030 are unprotected . Flat.
2029 has "light protection".
So 202, 2028,2030 and "lite" protection of 2029 = 4 first round ( 3 unprotected +1 low protection pick ) + 2025/16 pick = 5 picks total ( 4 unprotected, or if you want to get really into details:
-16th pick in 2025
- 2026 first round pick that can be swapped
2028 unprotected
2029 - low protected for pick swap ( probably top 3 protected)
2030 - unprotected
At the end of a day Magic now only hold 2 own picks until 2031 : 25th pick in 2025 and 2027 pick. That they are not allowed to trade due Stepien rule.
