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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1401 » by Rick Rolled » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:08 pm

glennathan wrote:Sorry I am way out of the loop on this but who is Montijunas and why is he such a big time commodity?


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NBA Comparison: Andreis Bargnani/Dirk Nowitzki

Strengths: Legit seven footer … Lefty with excellent offensive potential ... Loves to face the basket from the perimeter. Can score from inside and outside … Has added weight to his frame in the past year, making him more effective in the low post … Good ball handling ability for a big man … Quick first step allows him to get by opponents ... Very confident player … Good at timing his jumps to contest shots … Runs the floor well, especially for a seven-footer … Can be a mismatch nightmare for opposing teams … One of the most skilled players in the draft … Very solid athletically … Can shoot the three … Capable of creating his own offense … Polished footwork … Skilled at passing out of the post … Can eat defenses up with the pick and roll/ pick and pop … Can use both hands well ...

Weaknesses: Being a 20 year old European and lacking strength means he will need time to adjust to the NBA game … Has some prima donna to him. He's talented and he knows it and often gets criticized for not being tough or showing enough passion for the game ... Poor rebounder for a big man. At times it appears he's averse to doing the "dirty work" … Defense could use a lot of work, at times looks uninterested in defending … Can be punished in the post … Streaky shooter … Needs to gain maturity, discipline, focus ... Lacks the strength of other post players … Poor anticipation skills leads to defensive lapses and missed rebounding opportunities … Not a very good free throw shooter, which is surprising considering his touch ...

Notes: Helped lead the International squad to victory in the 2010 Hoop Summitover a USA team that featured John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, and Avery Bradley.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1402 » by OrlandO » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:12 pm

lol a caller just convinced Rudolph that Hennigan fired Stuff the mascot.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1403 » by TSKD000 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:13 pm

I would prefer HOU find a way to send KMart + #14 and #16 to SAC for Tyreke and the #5.

HOU: Lowry, Tyreke, #5, #18, Scola, Montiejunas, Parsons

for

ORL: Howard, Turk
Trade JJ, BBD, #19 for JSmoove.
Trade Ryno and #18 for Iggy.
Draft Drummond at #5

PG: Lowry/Nelson
SG: Tyreke/JRich
SF: Iggy/Parsons
PF: JSmoove/Scola
C: Drummond/Montiejunas
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1404 » by Swiftraven » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:20 pm

OrlandO wrote:lol a caller just convinced Rudolph that Hennigan fired Stuff the mascot.

LOL I heard that.
I think he was quoting Kyler about how stuff was fired last year and replace with a new guy.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1405 » by backasswards » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:21 pm

TSKD000 wrote:I would prefer HOU find a way to send KMart + #14 and #16 to SAC for Tyreke and the #5.

HOU: Lowry, Tyreke, #5, #18, Scola, Montiejunas, Parsons

for

ORL: Howard, Turk
Trade JJ, BBD, #19 for JSmoove.
Trade Ryno and #18 for Iggy.
Draft Drummond at #5

PG: Lowry/Nelson
SG: Tyreke/JRich
SF: Iggy/Parsons
PF: JSmoove/Scola
C: Drummond/Montiejunas


So the Magic rebuild literally their entire roster in the matter of 1 off season? Some of the stuff you guys want to believe in is naive at best.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1406 » by Skin » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:23 pm

TSKD000 wrote:I would prefer HOU find a way to send KMart + #14 and #16 to SAC for Tyreke and the #5.

HOU: Lowry, Tyreke, #5, #18, Scola, Montiejunas, Parsons

for

ORL: Howard, Turk
Trade JJ, BBD, #19 for JSmoove.
Trade Ryno and #18 for Iggy.
Draft Drummond at #5

PG: Lowry/Nelson
SG: Tyreke/JRich
SF: Iggy/Parsons
PF: JSmoove/Scola
C: Drummond/Montiejunas

...and Josh Smith says "I'm outta here" into FA in 2013. Smoove move.

The only sense in bringing Smith here is if Dwight is still here. That team is another one of those mediocre teams that is never bad enough to get a high pick and never good enough to win the title. Total limbo land.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1407 » by RickB-Orlando » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:23 pm

LarsV8 wrote:Hate to say it friends from Orlando, but all signs point to both of our franchises getting played.

Dwight wants to be in Brooklyn and he wants max raises, which means he has to be traded there.

He knows being traded to Houston/LA, ala rentals, means he would have to walk to Brooklyn, and thus take the "lower" max.

The camp rumors floating out are there to discourage us.

If things heat up anymore, I fully expect Dwight to start playing up the "I want to be in Orlando" angle so he won't be traded, and then a complete 180 at the deadline when NJ actually has the pieces to move. This isn't going to turn out well for anyone.


If he doesn't sign an extension, I suspect Martins has already gotten buy-in from the Devos family to trade him rather than go through another year of the same crud. Without an extension, I just don't see the Magic holding onto him for another year of that same song and dance.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1408 » by Phantom418 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:31 pm

TSKD000 wrote:I would prefer HOU find a way to send KMart + #14 and #16 to SAC for Tyreke and the #5.

HOU: Lowry, Tyreke, #5, #18, Scola, Montiejunas, Parsons

for

ORL: Howard, Turk
Trade JJ, BBD, #19 for JSmoove.
Trade Ryno and #18 for Iggy.
Draft Drummond at #5

PG: Lowry/Nelson
SG: Tyreke/JRich
SF: Iggy/Parsons
PF: JSmoove/Scola
C: Drummond/Montiejunas


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1409 » by rshepard1985 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:31 pm

Dream Scenario!
#5, #8, Martin, & Dalembert for Howard, Turk and Duhon
Let Jameer Walk
Waive JJ
Don't match any ridiculous offers for Anderson

PG: Teague (#19 pick)
SG: Martin / J Rich
SF: Kidd-Gilchirst (#5 pick) / Q Rich
PF: Big Baby / Harper
C: Dalembert / Drummond (#8)
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1410 » by Nyce_1 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:34 pm

Otis is a f*cking idiot. These contracts are horrible.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1411 » by ChosenSavior » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:37 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:Otis is a f*cking idiot. These contracts are horrible.


I agree. Hearing all of his blunders on this radio show was laughable and depressing at the same time. I'm so glad he is away from this franchise for good.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1412 » by jadewbj » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:38 pm

I want to keep D12, but going through the whole "is he staying or going" thing is too much for me. Either we get him on board up front or we look for the best deal. I just hope that we don't have to wait until the trade deadline to get it.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1413 » by ChildishGambino » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:38 pm

yea i was aware of the trades we all are but hearing them broken down like that really stings.....those were some bad contracts....Otis really screwed us man
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1414 » by The-Dawson » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:42 pm

rshepard1985 wrote:Dream Scenario!
#5, #8, Martin, & Dalembert for Howard, Turk and Duhon
Let Jameer Walk
Waive JJ
Don't match any ridiculous offers for Anderson

PG: Teague (#19 pick)
SG: Martin / J Rich
SF: Kidd-Gilchirst (#5 pick) / Q Rich
PF: Big Baby / Harper
C: Dalembert / Drummond (#8)



thats one **** team!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1415 » by Skin » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:44 pm

I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT ROB CAN'T REBUILD AROUND DWIGHT.

There are too many things he can do to manipulate this roster in other ways. Jameer, Redick, Clark, Ryno all have contracts that are tradable or we able to get out of... JRich, Davis can be traded or stretched... Draft picks can be traded or used. The only really difficult ones to get rid of are Turk, Duhon and QRich but I can't believe that is handcuffing us to the point where we can't help Dwight.
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Post#1416 » by ChildishGambino » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:49 pm

man one of the hosts sounds like he's going through puberty
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1417 » by Dgbarnes » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:49 pm

The-Dawson wrote:
rshepard1985 wrote:Dream Scenario!
#5, #8, Martin, & Dalembert for Howard, Turk and Duhon
Let Jameer Walk
Waive JJ
Don't match any ridiculous offers for Anderson

PG: Teague (#19 pick)
SG: Martin / J Rich
SF: Kidd-Gilchirst (#5 pick) / Q Rich
PF: Big Baby / Harper
C: Dalembert / Drummond (#8)



thats one **** team!


No way Gilchrist falls to 5, same for Drummond at 8
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1418 » by rshepard1985 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:50 pm

The-Dawson wrote:
rshepard1985 wrote:Dream Scenario!
#5, #8, Martin, & Dalembert for Howard, Turk and Duhon
Let Jameer Walk
Waive JJ
Don't match any ridiculous offers for Anderson

PG: Teague (#19 pick)
SG: Martin / J Rich
SF: Kidd-Gilchirst (#5 pick) / Q Rich
PF: Big Baby / Harper
C: Dalembert / Drummond (#8)



thats one **** team!


That's how rebuilding works. Martin and Dalembert come off the books after this upcoming season, leaving us with significant cap space. We'd also probably have another lottery pick since as you mentioned, this would be a **** team. If we wanted more cap space we could stretch J Rich.

Obviously we are better of with Dwight. But if he isn't going to resign, I'd rather start from the bottom than get stuck in mediocrity.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1419 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:57 pm

Sme people just don't know basketball.

Because,

PG: Teague (#19 pick)
SG: Martin / J Rich
SF: Kidd-Gilchirst (#5 pick) / Q Rich
PF: Big Baby / Harper
C: Dalembert / Drummond (#8)

Won't ever happen even in your wildest dreams. It is impossible. And, Magic with Dwight is still better with hedo, duhon.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#1420 » by rshepard1985 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:59 pm

Dgbarnes wrote:
The-Dawson wrote:
rshepard1985 wrote:Dream Scenario!
#5, #8, Martin, & Dalembert for Howard, Turk and Duhon
Let Jameer Walk
Waive JJ
Don't match any ridiculous offers for Anderson

PG: Teague (#19 pick)
SG: Martin / J Rich
SF: Kidd-Gilchirst (#5 pick) / Q Rich
PF: Big Baby / Harper
C: Dalembert / Drummond (#8)



thats one **** team!


No way Gilchrist falls to 5, same for Drummond at 8


1. Davis
2. Robinson
3. Beal
4. Barnes
5. MKG

I'll give you Drummond is a stretch at #8 but its not like Drummond did anything spectacular in college. He's 100% future potential.

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