Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LV - NBA Draft Edition)

Neon1 · Post #1401 » by **Neon1** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:58 am

Mannchild wrote:I really wish i knew if Noel could play PF full time... i dont think he can, but if he could then i would draft him and not think twice about it.

He was playing PF at Kentucky for half his minutes.

RYgoBOOM · Post #1402 » by **RYgoBOOM** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:10 am

Neon1 wrote:
Mannchild wrote:I really wish i knew if Noel could play PF full time... i dont think he can, but if he could then i would draft him and not think twice about it.

He was playing PF at Kentucky for half his minutes.

THIS^^^

If he's healthy and on the board at #2 I highly doubt Rob passes on him.....I mean, this guy IMO has the potential to guard SF's nightly....he's quicker on his feet than most guards I've seen from his game tape. I have no question he will excel at the 4 spot.

That leads me to highly doubting the cavs pass on him. I know there are the Len rumors but there's no way a front office will pass on the #1 guy baring no injury. I hope they do, but I doubt it.

If they go Len we go Noel, if they go Noel, we go McLemore IMO

RapHippy · Post #1403 » by **RapHippy** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:14 am

TNMagicFan wrote:
Whats he gonna say ? He sucks lol Of course hes gonna try to raise his players stock

Don't take this the wrong way but, everyone always says this. Stuff like "what else would he say," or "he's jsut selling his player," but how often do you see a well respected coach basically say that Noel is the RIGHT pick and if someone were to pass on him it would be a mistake.

He could have just said, " Noel can become great" or something like "Noel is the best defensive player right now" but he called him both, the most talented player with the most upside in the draft.

He's selling Noel to the point that it seems personal that people are underrating him. Which I can't recall Calipari saying for anything else.

Carlos Arroyo · Post #1404 » by **Carlos Arroyo** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:16 am

what if our sg of the future is dlamb? lol

RYgoBOOM · Post #1405 » by **RYgoBOOM** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:18 am

Carlos Arroyo wrote:what if our sg of the future is dlamb? lol

rcklsscognition · Post #1406 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:26 am

Noel has been #1 on my board all year I just never expected him to be available for us at the #2. I expected either Cavs to take him, or trade for a team that wanted Noel.

Truth24 · Post #1407 » by **Truth24** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:26 am

I really wouldn't mind Noel as the pick if his knee has checked out with our medical staff and Henny feels comfortable enough to take him. The guy is talented, not as talented as Davis was last year but he is pretty damn good in his own right. I think he would be a really good power forward to put beside Vucci because of his defensive abilities and I mean a 7'0 guy who is very mobile is the ideal person to put out there with Vucci.

I'm concerned about his Knee just like everyone else and I would hate to have another Kentucky center bust on us but this is the type of draft that you take a chance.

Carlos Arroyo · Post #1408 » by **Carlos Arroyo** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:26 am

RYgoBOOM wrote:
Carlos Arroyo wrote:what if our sg of the future is dlamb? lol

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsuvTjiStr0[/youtube]
lol hey u never kno

Mannchild · Post #1409 » by **Mannchild** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:36 am

Neon1 wrote:
Mannchild wrote:I really wish i knew if Noel could play PF full time... i dont think he can, but if he could then i would draft him and not think twice about it.

He was playing PF at Kentucky for half his minutes.

But at Kentucky he never had to guard 4s like Lebron, Carmelo, Durant, Green, Galo, Dirk, ext. I feel like he is stuck playing center most of the time due to match up problems but im not sure. If this was the 90's NBA where PF's were generally big bangers then i think he would be okay but in todays NBA im afraid he would get beat off the dribble at the 4 too often.

londoncollin · Post #1410 » by **londoncollin** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:41 am

I have a hard time believing that Noel gained 14 pounds in a month.

RYgoBOOM · Post #1411 » by **RYgoBOOM** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:45 am

Mannchild wrote:
Neon1 wrote:
Mannchild wrote:I really wish i knew if Noel could play PF full time... i dont think he can, but if he could then i would draft him and not think twice about it.

He was playing PF at Kentucky for half his minutes.

But at Kentucky he never had to guard 4s like Lebron, Carmelo, Durant, Green, Galo, Dirk, ext. I feel like he is stuck playing center most of the time due to match up problems but im not sure. If this was the 90's NBA where PF's were generally big bangers then i think he would be okay but in todays NBA im afraid he would get beat off the dribble at the 4 too often.

Have you not watched any of his games? That's like the opposite of real life.... He is fast enough to guard NBA 3's let a lone 4s lol. He is also more in position at 4 because most 5s are bangers and he isn't the "ideal" weight to bang with nba centers.

Him at the 4 on our team works perfect imo

Truth24 · Post #1412 » by **Truth24** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:51 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo8krszxD9w[/youtube]

Neon1 · Post #1413 » by **Neon1** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:08 am

londoncollin wrote:I have a hard time believing that Noel gained 14 pounds in a month.

I normally wouldn't buy it, but since he said 218 and we know for fact that he was 216 more then a year ago (at the Nike World Games) I buy it. He also said that he played at 215 all year long at Kentucky, his words add up to what we know for fact. I have dieted I usually lose 8-10 pounds in the 1st month, and when I stop, the weight comes back faster then It went off (and e).

At his current age, 215ish is his natural body weight IMO.

TNMagicFan · Post #1414 » by **TNMagicFan** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:09 am

If we draft this guy we will regret it . I dont like guys with injury issues especially this young . All you guys trying to wish off 2 knee injuries by a 7 footer not even 20 years are dreaming . All you guys who wanna draft Noel probably wanted to trade for Bynum too . Henny was smart enough to avoid Bynum and I think hes smart enough to avoid Noel . This guy is a HUGE gamble . You dont gamble with the #2 pick

Neon1 · Post #1415 » by **Neon1** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:15 am

TNMagicFan wrote:If we draft this guy we will regret it . I dont like guys with injury issues especially this young . All you guys trying to wish off 2 knee injuries by a 7 footer not even 20 years are dreaming . All you guys who wanna draft Noel probably wanted to trade for Bynum too . Henny was smart enough to avoid Bynum and I think hes smart enough to avoid Noel . This guy is a HUGE gamble . You dont gamble with the #2 pick

The thing in high school was minor bro. He fell down on his kneecap (which is why he wears the knee pads ever since). The two events weren't a knee "issue" these are injuries caused by accidents (landed on his kneecap & Rammed his knee into a basket stantion).

I would worry more about his clumbsiness then I would his body (structurally). I would call a guy like him more "accident prone" then "injury prone". It is still cause for worry, but I'm just saying, he just needs to play with a little less reckless abandon .

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #1416 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:19 am

rcklsscognition · Post #1417 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:20 am

TNMagicFan wrote:If we draft this guy we will regret it . I dont like guys with injury issues especially this young . All you guys trying to wish off 2 knee injuries by a 7 footer not even 20 years are dreaming . All you guys who wanna draft Noel probably wanted to trade for Bynum too . Henny was smart enough to avoid Bynum and I think hes smart enough to avoid Noel . This guy is a HUGE gamble . You dont gamble with the #2 pick

It was a freak accident. The doctor said his knees are fantastic, no other damage other than that ACL tear. In fact, the knees were so good, they began rehab early and he's ahead of schedule. The gamble is only as expensive as the best alternative, if there are no great alternatives in this draft, the cost of gambling on Noel is smaller. It doesn't appear this is a Oden/Durant thing, there is no standout guy, let alone 2 or 3.

Neon1 · Post #1418 » by **Neon1** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:27 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
It was a freak accident. The doctor said his knees are fantastic, no other damage other than that ACL tear. In fact, the knees were so good, they began rehab early and he's ahead of schedule. The gamble is only as expensive as the best alternative, if there are no great alternatives in this draft, the cost of gambling on Noel is smaller. It doesn't appear this is a Oden/Durant thing, there is no standout guy, let alone 2 or 3.

All I see are elite level role players at the top of this draft. If there's a superstar in there somewhere, he's gonna come out of nowhere.

rcklsscognition · Post #1419 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:31 am

Neon1 wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:
It was a freak accident. The doctor said his knees are fantastic, no other damage other than that ACL tear. In fact, the knees were so good, they began rehab early and he's ahead of schedule. The gamble is only as expensive as the best alternative, if there are no great alternatives in this draft, the cost of gambling on Noel is smaller. It doesn't appear this is a Oden/Durant thing, there is no standout guy, let alone 2 or 3.

All I see are elite level role players at the top of this draft. If there's a superstar in there somewhere, he's gonna come out of nowhere.

Exactly. The way I look at it is that you're taking a gamble on everyone. Yes, you might have a guy at 5, 10, 15 or 25 that becomes a superstar at random, but right now, no way to predict. Noel is the type of player that is the rarest of the bunch, so you have to go with him if he's checked out by doctors. I still don't think they'll pass, they're gonna take him, but we'll see. The cost of a bust is very low in this draft, lowest it's been in a long time.

Not the first I've heard it, but there seem to be legs to Len at #1.

Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Vitaly Potapenko among others are pushing for Len.

TNMagicFan · Post #1420 » by **TNMagicFan** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:32 am

Neon1 wrote:
TNMagicFan wrote:If we draft this guy we will regret it . I dont like guys with injury issues especially this young . All you guys trying to wish off 2 knee injuries by a 7 footer not even 20 years are dreaming . All you guys who wanna draft Noel probably wanted to trade for Bynum too . Henny was smart enough to avoid Bynum and I think hes smart enough to avoid Noel . This guy is a HUGE gamble . You dont gamble with the #2 pick

The thing in high school was minor bro. He fell down on his kneecap (which is why he wears the knee pads ever since). The two events weren't a knee "issue" these are injuries caused by accidents (landed on his kneecap & Rammed his knee into a basket stantion).

I would worry more about his clumbsiness then I would his body (structurally). I would call a guy like him more "accident prone" then "injury prone". It is still cause for worry, but I'm just saying,he just needs to play with a little less reckless abandon .

If he plays with a little less reckless abandon we arent talking about the guy as a 1st round pick . He is a totally different player in that case. A lot less attractive player