Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIX Offseason Edition)

RickB-Orlando · Post #1401 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:42 pm

magicsanta wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:
in-limbo wrote:
Creative financing?

AK47 basically opted out of his guaranteed 11 million in Minnesota to take 3 million and back up Paul Pierce.

I don't buy it

Nobody does. Eventually Prokorov will be investigated and castigated somehow, probably suspended because he'll continue to flaunt the rules, and sooner or later crowned champion. Those things will not be mutually exclusive for some reason.

TDJacksonville · Post #1402 » by **TDJacksonville** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:36 pm

in-limbo wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:i call Russian Shenanigans on that signing

Creative financing?

i suppose u could call it that. i mean hes probably getting paid Money Under the table as well.

cedric76 · Post #1403 » by **cedric76** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:44 pm

magicsanta wrote:
in-limbo wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:i call Russian Shenanigans on that signing

Creative financing?

I call it "tax heaven", you know, those ṕlaces where millionaires like the Net's owner move money at will, far from NBA control.

Why do u think d12 was begging to get there?

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TDJacksonville · Post #1404 » by **TDJacksonville** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:44 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Just saw this on twitter and had a laugh:

The one thing Dwight needs the most, the Lakers got today.....a trojan.

too Bad Dwight Needs MULTIPLE TROJANS so he wont have Baby Mama # ?

TDJacksonville · Post #1405 » by **TDJacksonville** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:48 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
in-limbo wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:i call Russian Shenanigans on that signing

Creative financing?

AK47 basically opted out of his guaranteed 11 million in Minnesota to take 3 million and back up Paul Pierce.

im sure their Owner will Give him a Bigger deal as soon as KG and Pierce retire or lower there contract numbers.

trebone · Post #1406 » by **trebone** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:16 pm

AK47s family probably just won the Russian State Lottery :wink:

MellowRose · Post #1407 » by **MellowRose** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:16 pm

I was playing around on Basketball Reference looking at our different lineups for 2-man combinations only, and surprisingly, Vuc and Harkless have the top 2 Total rebound percentage even though Harkless has a PER of 6.1 rebounds. What's up with that?

In a 3-man combination with Jameer, Harkless, and Vuc, the TRB% is still in the bottom 3.

Wow, and when I add 4-man or 5-man combo, the only time Vuc and Harkless's TRB% is in the top 5 or 6 is when Nicholson is in the lineup with them.

Never knew Nicholson had this much of an impact on rebounding when he's on the court with Vuc.

Here's the link I'm looking at BTW: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eups/2013/

rcklsscognition · Post #1408 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:15 pm

MellowRose wrote:I was playing around on Basketball Reference looking at our different lineups for 2-man combinations only, and surprisingly, Vuc and Harkless have the top 2 Total rebound percentage even though Harkless has a PER of 6.1 rebounds. What's up with that?

In a 3-man combination with Jameer, Harkless, and Vuc, the TRB% is still in the bottom 3.

Wow, and when I add 4-man or 5-man combo, the only time Vuc and Harkless's TRB% is in the top 5 or 6 is when Nicholson is in the lineup with them.

Never knew Nicholson had this much of an impact on rebounding when he's on the court with Vuc.

Here's the link I'm looking at BTW: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eups/2013/

Nicholson is a 17PPG 8 RPG PEr36 guy. Just doesn't get a lot of minutes.

magicman112 · Post #1409 » by **magicman112** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:43 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
MellowRose wrote:I was playing around on Basketball Reference looking at our different lineups for 2-man combinations only, and surprisingly, Vuc and Harkless have the top 2 Total rebound percentage even though Harkless has a PER of 6.1 rebounds. What's up with that?

In a 3-man combination with Jameer, Harkless, and Vuc, the TRB% is still in the bottom 3.

Wow, and when I add 4-man or 5-man combo, the only time Vuc and Harkless's TRB% is in the top 5 or 6 is when Nicholson is in the lineup with them.

Never knew Nicholson had this much of an impact on rebounding when he's on the court with Vuc.

Here's the link I'm looking at BTW: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eups/2013/

Nicholson is a 17PPG 8 RPG PEr36 guy. Just doesn't get a lot of minutes.

He produced in the minutes he got. That's what I really liked about him, when he came in you knew that he was going to score a few buckets at least more often than not.

MellowRose · Post #1410 » by **MellowRose** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:50 pm

MellowRose wrote:I was playing around on Basketball Reference looking at our different lineups for 2-man combinations only, and surprisingly, Vuc and Harkless have the top 2 Total rebound percentage even though Harkless has a PER of 6.1 rebounds. What's up with that?

I meant to say top 2 WORST TRB%. Anyone now why?

backasswards · Post #1411 » by **backasswards** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:12 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
MellowRose wrote:I was playing around on Basketball Reference looking at our different lineups for 2-man combinations only, and surprisingly, Vuc and Harkless have the top 2 Total rebound percentage even though Harkless has a PER of 6.1 rebounds. What's up with that?

In a 3-man combination with Jameer, Harkless, and Vuc, the TRB% is still in the bottom 3.

Wow, and when I add 4-man or 5-man combo, the only time Vuc and Harkless's TRB% is in the top 5 or 6 is when Nicholson is in the lineup with them.

Never knew Nicholson had this much of an impact on rebounding when he's on the court with Vuc.

Here's the link I'm looking at BTW: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eups/2013/

Nicholson is a 17PPG 8 RPG PEr36 guy. Just doesn't get a lot of minutes.

For Nicholson to get those kind of minutes regularly, we would need a defensive oriented big next to him to make up for AN's lack of defensive intensity. We'd be so weak in the paint with AN and Vuc playing a ton of minutes.

rcklsscognition · Post #1412 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:33 pm

Oh yeah, I was just pointing out that a 17 and 8 power forward ain't that bad. Defense is suspect, but he does get boards.

OrlandO · Post #1413 » by **OrlandO** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:50 pm

Jalen Rose and David Jacoby discuss the underreported practice of middle school basketball prospects like Nerlens Noel and Andrew Wiggins staying back a year in school so they can dominate on the court.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-S4aByi1Og[/youtube]

BadMofoPimp · Post #1414 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:16 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
in-limbo wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:i call Russian Shenanigans on that signing

Creative financing?

AK47 basically opted out of his guaranteed 11 million in Minnesota to take 3 million and back up Paul Pierce.

lets see. AK47 and the Nets owner are Russian. I bet there is some Russian Money being moved to AK47 in the future or some Russian investment AK47 makes will have a $10 to $20 million return on it 4-5 years from now thanks to Pokhorov!!!

Nyce_1 · Post #1415 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:28 pm

OrlandO wrote:
Jalen Rose and David Jacoby discuss the underreported practice of middle school basketball prospects like Nerlens Noel and Andrew Wiggins staying back a year in school so they can dominate on the court.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-S4aByi1Og[/youtube]

wow

So players like Wiggins, Noel, Shabazz, etc have all this hype coming into college, not because they dominated with their talent, but because they dominated with their talent against YOUNGER players. WTF -

Because of this, I totally support the NBA age limit. This forces players that have found this loophole to prove their talent vs other collegiate athletes or international talent for 1 year vs playing against younger players and making it off of the hype.

This has totally changed my views on high school hype and incoming freshman.

KingRobb02 · Post #1416 » by **KingRobb02** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:33 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:
in-limbo wrote:
Creative financing?

AK47 basically opted out of his guaranteed 11 million in Minnesota to take 3 million and back up Paul Pierce.

lets see. AK47 and the Nets owner are Russian. I bet there is some Russian Money being moved to AK47 in the future or some Russian investment AK47 makes will have a $10 to $20 million return on it 4-5 years from now thanks to Pokhorov!!!

That is super racist when you think about it. "Those two rich foreigners are from the same huge country. They must be colluding!"

InFlames · Post #1417 » by **InFlames** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:35 pm

OrlandO wrote:
Jalen Rose and David Jacoby discuss the underreported practice of middle school basketball prospects like Nerlens Noel and Andrew Wiggins staying back a year in school so they can dominate on the court.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-S4aByi1Og[/youtube]

wtf

cedric76 · Post #1418 » by **cedric76** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:50 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:AK47 basically opted out of his guaranteed 11 million in Minnesota to take 3 million and back up Paul Pierce.

lets see. AK47 and the Nets owner are Russian. I bet there is some Russian Money being moved to AK47 in the future or some Russian investment AK47 makes will have a $10 to $20 million return on it 4-5 years from now thanks to Pokhorov!!!

That is super racist when you think about it. "Those two rich foreigners are from the same huge country. They must be colluding!"

Racist? Please check definition

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

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KingRobb02 · Post #1419 » by **KingRobb02** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:51 pm

cedric76 wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
lets see. AK47 and the Nets owner are Russian. I bet there is some Russian Money being moved to AK47 in the future or some Russian investment AK47 makes will have a $10 to $20 million return on it 4-5 years from now thanks to Pokhorov!!!

That is super racist when you think about it. "Those two rich foreigners are from the same huge country. They must be colluding!"

Racist? Please check definition

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

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Sorry. Xenophobic.

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JBSouthpaw · Post #1420 » by **JBSouthpaw** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:30 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
Jalen Rose and David Jacoby discuss the underreported practice of middle school basketball prospects like Nerlens Noel and Andrew Wiggins staying back a year in school so they can dominate on the court.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-S4aByi1Og[/youtube]

wow

So players like Wiggins, Noel, Shabazz, etc have all this hype coming into college, not because they dominated with their talent, but because they dominated with their talent against YOUNGER players. WTF -

Because of this, I totally support the NBA age limit. This forces players that have found this loophole to prove their talent vs other collegiate athletes or international talent for 1 year vs playing against younger players and making it off of the hype.

This has totally changed my views on high school hype and incoming freshman.

Well, the AAU circuit is by age, so staying back isn't helping that. High school doesn't come into play too much.