Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory

[basketballRob]

It would be a good year to tank. I think Fournier will still opt out and try to get a 4 year deal. Fournier just had his best year. If he leaves that's our excuse to tank.

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[cedric76]

It s gonna be a Fun Summer for the MAgic


AG will be traded (hopefully to Min for Culver+johnson+17)

Vuc will be Traded too, it s a perfect time for a SELL HIGH
My guess:
#If Edwards is available at #2: Vuc for Wiggins+#2
Could even be part of a bigger trade Evan for GW s TPE + Pick

Curry,Evan,Klay,Green,Vuc = another Title in the Bag



Our lineup

#Draft Aleksej Pokuševski with #15
#Trade #17 for future 1st

Fulz,culver,MCW
Edwards,Culver,Ross
Wiggins,Chuma,iwundu
Aminu,Johnson ,Aleksej Pokuševski (Isaac on the IL)
Mo,Birch

LOL. VUC WOULD NET US WIGGINS AND 2????? SIGN ME UP!!!

The 2 separate deals would be equivalent to

Vuc + Evan (he d agree to optin) for Wiggins +#2 +tpe + future pick

Gw get rid of Wiggins ' contract and get 2 players fitting their core

Win win

[basketballRob]

It s gonna be a Fun Summer for the MAgic


AG will be traded (hopefully to Min for Culver+johnson+17)

Vuc will be Traded too, it s a perfect time for a SELL HIGH
My guess:
#If Edwards is available at #2: Vuc for Wiggins+#2
Could even be part of a bigger trade Evan for GW s TPE + Pick

Curry,Evan,Klay,Green,Vuc = another Title in the Bag



Our lineup

#Draft Aleksej Pokuševski with #15
#Trade #17 for future 1st

Fulz,culver,MCW
Edwards,Culver,Ross
Wiggins,Chuma,iwundu
Aminu,Johnson ,Aleksej Pokuševski (Isaac on the IL)
Mo,Birch

LOL. VUC WOULD NET US WIGGINS AND 2????? SIGN ME UP!!!

The 2 separate deals would be equivalent to

Vuc + Evan (he d agree to optin) for Wiggins +#2 +tpe + future pick

Gw get rid of Wiggins ' contract and get 2 players fitting their core

Win win

Fournier could even opt out and agree to a sign and trade to the Warriors. Either way I think he'll want the security of a 4 year deal.

If Fournier opts in for 17.1m and the Warriors tpe is 17.2 so it would be perfect. Vuc makes near exactly what Wiggins makes. I think the 2nd pick probably gets around 6m, so you might be able to include a signed DJ 2 yrs 12m in the deal.

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[fendilim]

It s gonna be a Fun Summer for the MAgic


AG will be traded (hopefully to Min for Culver+johnson+17)

Vuc will be Traded too, it s a perfect time for a SELL HIGH
My guess:
#If Edwards is available at #2: Vuc for Wiggins+#2
Could even be part of a bigger trade Evan for GW s TPE + Pick

Curry,Evan,Klay,Green,Vuc = another Title in the Bag



Our lineup

#Draft Aleksej Pokuševski with #15
#Trade #17 for future 1st

Fulz,culver,MCW
Edwards,Culver,Ross
Wiggins,Chuma,iwundu
Aminu,Johnson ,Aleksej Pokuševski (Isaac on the IL)
Mo,Birch

LOL. VUC WOULD NET US WIGGINS AND 2????? SIGN ME UP!!!

The 2 separate deals would be equivalent to

Vuc + Evan (he d agree to optin) for Wiggins +#2 +tpe + future pick

Gw get rid of Wiggins ' contract and get 2 players fitting their core

Win win

i dont think they are that desperate to get rid of wiggins’ deal hahaha

[cedric76]

LOL. VUC WOULD NET US WIGGINS AND 2????? SIGN ME UP!!!

The 2 separate deals would be equivalent to

Vuc + Evan (he d agree to optin) for Wiggins +#2 +tpe + future pick

Gw get rid of Wiggins ' contract and get 2 players fitting their core

Win win

i dont think they are that desperate to get rid of wiggins’ deal hahaha

Time will tell hahaha

But i m sure they r desperate to get better players than Wiggins and they both are

Hahaha
Hahaha

[MoMM]

AG and Fournier for McCollum and Hood. Hood has 1 year 6 million left.

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I like it, McCollum is what we need and that solves our logjam at 4. Aminu and Okeke can handle it until Isaac is back.

[fendilim]

The 2 separate deals would be equivalent to

Vuc + Evan (he d agree to optin) for Wiggins +#2 +tpe + future pick

Gw get rid of Wiggins ' contract and get 2 players fitting their core

Win win

i dont think they are that desperate to get rid of wiggins’ deal hahaha

Time will tell hahaha

But i m sure they r desperate to get better players than Wiggins and they both are

Hahaha
Hahaha

at the price of the 2nd overall?? Lmao

[cedric76]

i dont think they are that desperate to get rid of wiggins’ deal hahaha

Time will tell hahaha

But i m sure they r desperate to get better players than Wiggins and they both are

Hahaha
Hahaha

at the price of the 2nd overall?? Lmao

Hahaha

[Skybox]

It s gonna be a Fun Summer for the MAgic


AG will be traded (hopefully to Min for Culver+johnson+17)

Vuc will be Traded too, it s a perfect time for a SELL HIGH
My guess:
#If Edwards is available at #2: Vuc for Wiggins+#2
Could even be part of a bigger trade Evan for GW s TPE + Pick

Curry,Evan,Klay,Green,Vuc = another Title in the Bag



Our lineup

#Draft Aleksej Pokuševski with #15
#Trade #17 for future 1st

Fulz,culver,MCW
Edwards,Culver,Ross
Wiggins,Chuma,iwundu
Aminu,Johnson ,Aleksej Pokuševski (Isaac on the IL)
Mo,Birch

Would be VERY excited to watch this (knowing full well it could be a (at least temporary) dumpster fire. I would add the possibility of packaging 15 and 17 and/or a lesser player to move up or acquire a young player. I would also pencil in Chuma as the starter at PF. Aminu could even be the starter at C if Mo just aint there yet OR we could pick up a vet in the Baynes/Robin Lopez mold to hold it down and instill some vet leadership or even take a flyer on a still young Nerlens Noel/Bamba combo. Remember, Wiggins WILL go for 22 ppg maybe inefficiently but he CAN fill it up. The supporting cast on offense can, IMO, count on that and try to instill some offensive efficiency and spacing around him. Edwards has the body (if not yet the mind) to be dropped right into the fire too.

I'd be willing to forego the unspecified future pick if needed, or get them to throw in Paschal instead. Certainly, I have no illusions that they would include the MIN 21 pick. Let's go...it's the most wonderful time of the year for ORL fans...the offseason!!

[Skybox]

It s gonna be a Fun Summer for the MAgic


AG will be traded (hopefully to Min for Culver+johnson+17)

Vuc will be Traded too, it s a perfect time for a SELL HIGH
My guess:
#If Edwards is available at #2: Vuc for Wiggins+#2
Could even be part of a bigger trade Evan for GW s TPE + Pick

Curry,Evan,Klay,Green,Vuc = another Title in the Bag



Our lineup

#Draft Aleksej Pokuševski with #15
#Trade #17 for future 1st

Fulz,culver,MCW
Edwards,Culver,Ross
Wiggins,Chuma,iwundu
Aminu,Johnson ,Aleksej Pokuševski (Isaac on the IL)
Mo,Birch

Would be VERY excited to watch this (knowing full well it could be a (at least temporary) dumpster fire. I would add the possibility of packaging 15 and 17 and/or a lesser player to move up or acquire a young player. I would also pencil in Chuma as the starter at PF. Aminu could even be the starter at C if Mo just aint there yet OR we could pick up a vet in the Baynes/Robin Lopez mold to hold it down and instill some vet leadership or even take a flyer on a still young Nerlens Noel/Bamba combo. Remember, Wiggins WILL go for 22 ppg maybe inefficiently but he CAN fill it up. The supporting cast on offense can, IMO, count on that and try to instill some offensive efficiency and spacing around him. Edwards has the body (if not yet the mind) to be dropped right into the fire too.

I'd be willing to forego the unspecified future pick if needed, or get them to throw in Paschal instead. Certainly, I have no illusions that they would include the MIN 21 pick. Let's go...it's the most wonderful time of the year for ORL fans...the offseason!!

[The Effect]

Any deal that nets is Edwards sounds good to me!

If not, I think I've settled on Cole Anthony at 15, hes an alpha scorer. Has some big flaws, but he's a scorer with alpha mentality who can put the team on his back.

Seems to have some CJ McCollum to his game

[VFX]

You know things are bad when Phillip Rossman-Reich of “locked on Magic“ says we have to make moves... lol

[pepe1991]

Remembering good old 2017 days when Gordon was new PG on the board and i was crying for Gordon- to Jamal Murray trade

[pepe1991]

It s gonna be a Fun Summer for the MAgic


AG will be traded (hopefully to Min for Culver+johnson+17)

Vuc will be Traded too, it s a perfect time for a SELL HIGH
My guess:
#If Edwards is available at #2: Vuc for Wiggins+#2
Could even be part of a bigger trade Evan for GW s TPE + Pick

Curry,Evan,Klay,Green,Vuc = another Title in the Bag



Our lineup

#Draft Aleksej Pokuševski with #15
#Trade #17 for future 1st

Fulz,culver,MCW
Edwards,Culver,Ross
Wiggins,Chuma,iwundu
Aminu,Johnson ,Aleksej Pokuševski (Isaac on the IL)
Mo,Birch

Would be VERY excited to watch this (knowing full well it could be a (at least temporary) dumpster fire. I would add the possibility of packaging 15 and 17 and/or a lesser player to move up or acquire a young player. I would also pencil in Chuma as the starter at PF. Aminu could even be the starter at C if Mo just aint there yet OR we could pick up a vet in the Baynes/Robin Lopez mold to hold it down and instill some vet leadership or even take a flyer on a still young Nerlens Noel/Bamba combo. Remember, Wiggins WILL go for 22 ppg maybe inefficiently but he CAN fill it up. The supporting cast on offense can, IMO, count on that and try to instill some offensive efficiency and spacing around him. Edwards has the body (if not yet the mind) to be dropped right into the fire too.

I'd be willing to forego the unspecified future pick if needed, or get them to throw in Paschal instead. Certainly, I have no illusions that they would include the MIN 21 pick. Let's go...it's the most wonderful time of the year for ORL fans...the offseason!!

This would be exiting 18 wins team

No really, imagine lineup where Aminu is your best shooter

[Skybox]

It s gonna be a Fun Summer for the MAgic


AG will be traded (hopefully to Min for Culver+johnson+17)

Vuc will be Traded too, it s a perfect time for a SELL HIGH
My guess:
#If Edwards is available at #2: Vuc for Wiggins+#2
Could even be part of a bigger trade Evan for GW s TPE + Pick

Curry,Evan,Klay,Green,Vuc = another Title in the Bag



Our lineup

#Draft Aleksej Pokuševski with #15
#Trade #17 for future 1st

Fulz,culver,MCW
Edwards,Culver,Ross
Wiggins,Chuma,iwundu
Aminu,Johnson ,Aleksej Pokuševski (Isaac on the IL)
Mo,Birch

Would be VERY excited to watch this (knowing full well it could be a (at least temporary) dumpster fire. I would add the possibility of packaging 15 and 17 and/or a lesser player to move up or acquire a young player. I would also pencil in Chuma as the starter at PF. Aminu could even be the starter at C if Mo just aint there yet OR we could pick up a vet in the Baynes/Robin Lopez mold to hold it down and instill some vet leadership or even take a flyer on a still young Nerlens Noel/Bamba combo. Remember, Wiggins WILL go for 22 ppg maybe inefficiently but he CAN fill it up. The supporting cast on offense can, IMO, count on that and try to instill some offensive efficiency and spacing around him. Edwards has the body (if not yet the mind) to be dropped right into the fire too.

I'd be willing to forego the unspecified future pick if needed, or get them to throw in Paschal instead. Certainly, I have no illusions that they would include the MIN 21 pick. Let's go...it's the most wonderful time of the year for ORL fans...the offseason!!

This would be exiting 18 wins team

No really, imagine lineup where Aminu is your best shooter

Right now, an exciting 18 with crazy upside would be preferable to 30 with no real hope for dynamic change

[basketballRob]

Would be VERY excited to watch this (knowing full well it could be a (at least temporary) dumpster fire. I would add the possibility of packaging 15 and 17 and/or a lesser player to move up or acquire a young player. I would also pencil in Chuma as the starter at PF. Aminu could even be the starter at C if Mo just aint there yet OR we could pick up a vet in the Baynes/Robin Lopez mold to hold it down and instill some vet leadership or even take a flyer on a still young Nerlens Noel/Bamba combo. Remember, Wiggins WILL go for 22 ppg maybe inefficiently but he CAN fill it up. The supporting cast on offense can, IMO, count on that and try to instill some offensive efficiency and spacing around him. Edwards has the body (if not yet the mind) to be dropped right into the fire too.

I'd be willing to forego the unspecified future pick if needed, or get them to throw in Paschal instead. Certainly, I have no illusions that they would include the MIN 21 pick. Let's go...it's the most wonderful time of the year for ORL fans...the offseason!!

This would be exiting 18 wins team

No really, imagine lineup where Aminu is your best shooter

Right now, an exciting 18 with crazy upside would be preferable to 30 with no real hope for dynamic change

I hope people aren't trying to make a case to resign Fournier. The guy just isn't physically gifted enough to get shots off against a team that turns up the defense.

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[pepe1991]

Would be VERY excited to watch this (knowing full well it could be a (at least temporary) dumpster fire. I would add the possibility of packaging 15 and 17 and/or a lesser player to move up or acquire a young player. I would also pencil in Chuma as the starter at PF. Aminu could even be the starter at C if Mo just aint there yet OR we could pick up a vet in the Baynes/Robin Lopez mold to hold it down and instill some vet leadership or even take a flyer on a still young Nerlens Noel/Bamba combo. Remember, Wiggins WILL go for 22 ppg maybe inefficiently but he CAN fill it up. The supporting cast on offense can, IMO, count on that and try to instill some offensive efficiency and spacing around him. Edwards has the body (if not yet the mind) to be dropped right into the fire too.

I'd be willing to forego the unspecified future pick if needed, or get them to throw in Paschal instead. Certainly, I have no illusions that they would include the MIN 21 pick. Let's go...it's the most wonderful time of the year for ORL fans...the offseason!!

This would be exiting 18 wins team

No really, imagine lineup where Aminu is your best shooter

Right now, an exciting 18 with crazy upside would be preferable to 30 with no real hope for dynamic change

No, you just have bunch of young players. And Edwards.
Outside of Edwards ( 0 nba games played, no previous injuries, maybe solid nba starter ,borderline allstar down the line) there is no much upside there.

Okeke is 22 with 0 nba games played, pos ACL tear, Isaac is always hurt ,Fultz seems to be unable to shoot, Culver and Bamba have no basketball skills.
That roster is equivalent of 2015 Orlando Magic roster.
PG= Fultz / Payton / PG who can't shoot in wrong era
SG = Edwards / Oladipo / SG who is all around solid, not elite at anything
SF= Harris / Okeke / small ball PF who won't play there due overlapping positions on roster
PF = Gordon / Isaac where it's adventage for Isaac to develop into more impacful player, he seems to be incapable of staying healthy
Culver/Hezonja - no nba skills to talk about.

Bamba / two years gone and nothing is gained.

Getting younger does not always mean having more upside nor having greater future. Young just means they are "born late "

There is also whole new issue with where multiple sub 30 wins seasons will do to smaller market, on drying economy and declining interest in nba in general.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

You know things are bad when Phillip Rossman-Reich of “locked on Magic“ says we have to make moves... lol

woah woah i have to hear this

[rcklsscognition]

I would be curious what Fournier's agent thinks about contracts. How low would they go for more guaranteed money? 17 for 1 year, would they be willing to go as low at 3/30? Even though much less per year, it is another 13 million dollars. I think they would, and I think he'll try to lock up more long-term money.

[VFX]

You know things are bad when Phillip Rossman-Reich of “locked on Magic“ says we have to make moves... lol

woah woah i have to hear this

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