Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIV "Lottery/Draft"Edition)

[MagicRays]

Good to know. I would like to see if JV is planning to use him as a stretch 4 like Rashard or move him to the 3.

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He dominates at SF. I think he's gotta stay there. Get some practice at PF this year while we tank maybe. In the long run, he's gotta be our starting SF.

If he dominates the three what do you do with moe?

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Split his time at SG and SF. 15m each I guess. Maybe try to move Moe to SG permanently. Gotta let Tobes fly. Give him the green light at SF.

[trebone]

I think Moe has the quickness to play sg, Henny thinks so as well.

Imagine the speed and D if we have this lineup going into next season if we can grab another lotto pick

MCW
Moe
Tobes
Noel
Vucci

[Optimus_Steel]

I'm starting to really open up to us taking McLemore. My question is there are alot of ppl on here who would like for us to draft McLemore and also get the #1 pcik in the '14 draft which would basically net Wiggins. My question is if we take McLemore does that take us out of the running to take Wiggins with McLemore and possibly Harkless able to play the SG position?

If Wiggins is as good as they say he is then it would not stop us from drafting him if we have the #1 pick in 2014. If we dont have it then I would love to take Smart.

[mr2good]

Tobias is such a gym rat.....That kid is basketball 24/7, if he isn't playing or working on basketball, he is spending time visiting and talking (learning) to coaches and great players about basketball.

Good to know. I would like to see if JV is planning to use him as a stretch 4 like Rashard or move him to the 3.

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He dominates at SF. I think he's gotta stay there. Get some practice at PF this year while we tank maybe. In the long run, he's gotta be our starting SF.

He never "dominated" anything in the NBA until he got to Orlando and he almost NEVER played SF for us. I watched all the games to Tobias played and I would say 90% of his minutes if not more were at the PF spot. So I'd have to say he has shown flashes of dominating the PF spot.

I know most people want him to be a SF, but in reality we almost never used him there last season.

[Neon1]

I think Moe has the quickness to play sg, Henny thinks so as well.

Imagine the speed and D if we have this lineup going into next season if we can grab another lotto pick

MCW
Moe
Tobes
Noel
Vucci

Way too much offensive ineptitude in that lineup between Noel,Moe amd MCW. Even Vucevic is just average.

We would be terrible, there has to be a balance.

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[Optimus_Steel]

I think Moe has the quickness to play sg, Henny thinks so as well.

Imagine the speed and D if we have this lineup going into next season if we can grab another lotto pick

MCW
Moe
Tobes
Noel
Vucci

Way too much offensive ineptitude in that lineup between Noel,Moe amd MCW. Even Vucevic is just average.

We would be terrible, there has to be a balance.

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It would be a terrible shooting team and opponents would pack the paint and have us settle for jumpers. Way to easy to defend against.

[Neon1]

Good to know. I would like to see if JV is planning to use him as a stretch 4 like Rashard or move him to the 3.

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He dominates at SF. I think he's gotta stay there. Get some practice at PF this year while we tank maybe. In the long run, he's gotta be our starting SF.

He never "dominated" anything in the NBA until he got to Orlando and he almost NEVER played SF for us. I watched all the games to Tobias played and I would say 90% of his minutes if not more were at the PF spot. So I'd have to say he has shown flashes of dominating the PF spot.

I know most people want him to be a SF, but in reality we almost never used him there last season.

If you watched all the games you wpuld have saw he was starting at SF for the final month (7games), the month where he was averaging 20 & 10 in 40mins.

If you really watched him, you would know that he NEVER was playing any PF as a pro until he got here after the trade.

By judging by J.Vaughn he apparent had zero clue that Tobias was a SF until a reporter had to point it out to him multiple times.

Immediately after that, Vaughn started playing Tobias some mins at the SF spot and then started him there and Moe at SG(after injuries) to finish out the season.

[JBSouthpaw]

He dominates at SF. I think he's gotta stay there. Get some practice at PF this year while we tank maybe. In the long run, he's gotta be our starting SF.

He never "dominated" anything in the NBA until he got to Orlando and he almost NEVER played SF for us. I watched all the games to Tobias played and I would say 90% of his minutes if not more were at the PF spot. So I'd have to say he has shown flashes of dominating the PF spot.

I know most people want him to be a SF, but in reality we almost never used him there last season.

If you watched all the games you wpuld have saw he was starting at SF for the final month (7games), the month where he was averaging 20 & 10 in 40mins.

If you really watched him, you would know that he NEVER was playing any PF as a pro until he got here after the trade.

By judging by J.Vaughn he apparent had zero clue that Tobias was a SF until a reporter had to point it out to him multiple times.

Immediately after that, Vaughn started playing Tobias some mins at the SF spot and then started him there and Moe at SG(after injuries) to finish out the season.

No, No. ACTUALLY he only started 3 out of the last 13 games at SF, the rest were at PF. below are the last 13 games of the season, Harris and Harkless started all of them together, along with a PG and a Center. the only changes were in the SG or PF spots, I noted them below. Depending on who started pushed Harris to the SF only 4 times.

Date Opponent Result MIN REB PTS
17-Apr @ MIA L 93 - 105 38 8 19 Moore Sg = Harris at PF
15-Apr vs. CHI L 84 - 102 40 4 20 Moore Sg = Harris at PF
13-Apr vs. BOS L 88 - 120 34 6 22 Oquinn PF = Harris at SF
10-Apr vs. MIL W 113 - 103 45 19 30 Moore Sg = Harris at PF
7-Apr @ CLE L 85 - 91 41 12 26 Nicholson PF = Harris at SF
5-Apr @ CHI L 86 - 87 45 11 12 Nicholson PF = Harris at SF
3-Apr @ SAS L 84 - 98 41 7 11 Nicholson PF = Harris at SF
1-Apr @ HOU L 103 - 111 40 11 18 Jones SG = Harris at PF
30-Mar @ ATL L 88 - 97 40 10 11 Jones SG = Harris at PF
29-Mar vs. WAS W 97 - 92 45 11 30 Jones SG = Harris at PF
27-Mar @ CHA L 108 - 114 45 9 29 Jones SG = Harris at PF
25-Mar vs. MIA L 94 - 108 41 5 20 Moore Sg = Harris at PF

[AddiFB]

I'd be more than satisfied with Ben McLemore and then of course grabbing Sterns behind, calling him a sexy mofo, best commish ever and then giving Silver a wink, send him the most expensive heart-shaped box of chocolates with each chocolate wrapped in Magic wrappers... to make sure we get the first pick in 2014. Just basic stuff, ya know.

Dude, 29 other teams are all going to try that timid crap. If we want to have a chance at the #1 pick in 2014, we gotta do way freakier stuff than that.

You may be right.

Let Henny get a "I <3 Stern" tattoo on his chest? Stern on his sternum. Sounds hardcore. Rename the Amway Center "The Magical David Stern Center of Wonder and Awesome"? Rename City Walk "David Stern"?

[The Other Ankle]

Regarding Harkless and Harris positions from the end of the season from above:

No, No. ACTUALLY he only started 3 out of the last 13 games at SF, the rest were at PF. below are the last 13 games of the season, Harris and Harkless started all of them together, along with a PG and a Center. the only changes were in the SG or PF spots, I noted them below. Depending on who started pushed Harris to the SF only 4 times.

Date Opponent Result MIN REB PTS
17-Apr @ MIA L 93 - 105 38 8 19 Moore Sg = Harris at PF
15-Apr vs. CHI L 84 - 102 40 4 20 Moore Sg = Harris at PF
13-Apr vs. BOS L 88 - 120 34 6 22 Oquinn PF = Harris at SF
10-Apr vs. MIL W 113 - 103 45 19 30 Moore Sg = Harris at PF
7-Apr @ CLE L 85 - 91 41 12 26 Nicholson PF = Harris at SF
5-Apr @ CHI L 86 - 87 45 11 12 Nicholson PF = Harris at SF
3-Apr @ SAS L 84 - 98 41 7 11 Nicholson PF = Harris at SF
1-Apr @ HOU L 103 - 111 40 11 18 Jones SG = Harris at PF
30-Mar @ ATL L 88 - 97 40 10 11 Jones SG = Harris at PF
29-Mar vs. WAS W 97 - 92 45 11 30 Jones SG = Harris at PF
27-Mar @ CHA L 108 - 114 45 9 29 Jones SG = Harris at PF
25-Mar vs. MIA L 94 - 108 41 5 20 Moore Sg = Harris at PF

We have to remember the established starters that were not available for the end of the season: Nelson, AA, & Baby Davis. These were the guys playing when we were close to .500 and they are still on our team even if we don't think that they're exciting. Until/unless trade(s) are made, Moe/Tobe/draftees will be sharing minutes with the more established vets. Sure they're going to look at the draft and trades with a mind for the future, as in youth and potential. But they're not going to trade any vets without getting good value, and they're not going to sit them if they aren't injured.

[BadMofoPimp]

I'd be more than satisfied with Ben McLemore and then of course grabbing Sterns behind, calling him a sexy mofo, best commish ever and then giving Silver a wink, send him the most expensive heart-shaped box of chocolates with each chocolate wrapped in Magic wrappers... to make sure we get the first pick in 2014. Just basic stuff, ya know.

Dude, 29 other teams are all going to try that timid crap. If we want to have a chance at the #1 pick in 2014, we gotta do way freakier stuff than that.

You may be right.

Let Henny get a "I <3 Stern" tattoo on his chest? Stern on his sternum. Sounds hardcore. Rename the Amway Center "The Magical David Stern Center of Wonder and Awesome"? Rename City Walk "David Stern"?

I know how the Magic could win next years #1 overall pic!

Make a secret handshake deal with Stern to develop Wiggins so they can trade him to LA 4 years from now.

[Def Swami]

Chad Ford just updated his mock and he just switched our pick.

2 Victor Oladipo Orlando Magic
COLLEGE: Indiana AGE: 20 HT: 6-4 WT: 213 POS: SG

Analysis: According to sources, the Magic, are still wide open. They say they have nine (gulp) players that they are considering. Michigan's Trey Burke was in this slot in Mock 3.0, but I'm hearing the Magic aren't sold on him as the second best player in the draft. They might take him, but he's not an outright frontrunner, despite the need.

The Magic are eyeing other young point guards such as Eric Bledsoe. If they make a trade, starting two-guard Arron Afflalo will be the bait. Assistant GM Scott Perry (who helped Afflalo in Detroit) doesn't want to give him up, but given where the Magic are as team, it might be the only way to trade for a point guard upgrade. If Afflalo goes, the two-guard position opens up. Both Oladipo and McLemore would be upgrades long-term anyway. While McLemore is a better shooter, Oladipo's toughness, defense and leadership might be more appealing to a rebuilding team.

In before "Fire Scott Perry."

[BadMofoPimp]

I don't know. Would the Magic trade AA for Stuckey with Detroit. Because, Stuck is a decent Defensive PG who can score, is an expiring and the Pistons can see if he flourishes in new surroundings.

[mr2good]

He dominates at SF. I think he's gotta stay there. Get some practice at PF this year while we tank maybe. In the long run, he's gotta be our starting SF.

He never "dominated" anything in the NBA until he got to Orlando and he almost NEVER played SF for us. I watched all the games to Tobias played and I would say 90% of his minutes if not more were at the PF spot. So I'd have to say he has shown flashes of dominating the PF spot.

I know most people want him to be a SF, but in reality we almost never used him there last season.

If you watched all the games you wpuld have saw he was starting at SF for the final month (7games), the month where he was averaging 20 & 10 in 40mins.

If you really watched him, you would know that he NEVER was playing any PF as a pro until he got here after the trade.

By judging by J.Vaughn he apparent had zero clue that Tobias was a SF until a reporter had to point it out to him multiple times.

Immediately after that, Vaughn started playing Tobias some mins at the SF spot and then started him there and Moe at SG(after injuries) to finish out the season.

@JBsouthpaw, thanks for taking the time to show how off this statement is.

[ZeusIsLoose]

Chad Ford just updated his mock and he just switched our pick.

2 Victor Oladipo Orlando Magic
COLLEGE: Indiana AGE: 20 HT: 6-4 WT: 213 POS: SG

Analysis: According to sources, the Magic, are still wide open. They say they have nine (gulp) players that they are considering. Michigan's Trey Burke was in this slot in Mock 3.0, but I'm hearing the Magic aren't sold on him as the second best player in the draft. They might take him, but he's not an outright frontrunner, despite the need.

The Magic are eyeing other young point guards such as Eric Bledsoe. If they make a trade, starting two-guard Arron Afflalo will be the bait. Assistant GM Scott Perry (who helped Afflalo in Detroit) doesn't want to give him up, but given where the Magic are as team, it might be the only way to trade for a point guard upgrade. If Afflalo goes, the two-guard position opens up. Both Oladipo and McLemore would be upgrades long-term anyway. While McLemore is a better shooter, Oladipo's toughness, defense and leadership might be more appealing to a rebuilding team.

In before "Fire Scott Perry."

My prediction: Trade of Afflalo for Bledsoe, Draft McLemore. Maybe not in that order, but i just have a feeling that this is what is going to happen.

[KillMonger]

As long as the Chris Paul thing is unresolved Bledsoe ain't going anywhere

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[KingRobb02]

As long as the Chris Paul thing is unresolved Bledsoe ain't going anywhere

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That situation probably won't be resolved until either Blake or Chris is gone. Even if Paul resigns, we will probably right back to stories about them hating each other as soon as they lose back to back games. This is LA we're talking about.

[Just Plain Mark]

As long as the Chris Paul thing is unresolved Bledsoe ain't going anywhere

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That situation probably won't be resolved until either Blake or Chris is gone. Even if Paul resigns, we will probably right back to stories about them hating each other as soon as they lose back to back games. This is LA we're talking about.

I think what he was referring to is the connection between the draft and a Bledsoe trade - the Clippers won't trade Bledsoe on draft night since Paul can't even begin to negotiate with teams until July 1 (after the draft).

[rcklsscognition]

I don't think Bledsoe on draft night is important, we draft BPA at #2 and work it out later. Not like we're actually going to draft Burke or MCW at #2.

[LC_Magic]

I have a strong feeling MCW will end up a Magician. Working out with Tobais, a few things I've heard, I can see us making a deal to get him at #9 or #13, just got this feeling. Mclemore and MCW will be our 2 guys, I'm excited by that as well