"Magic Come Knocking for CP3"

Skin · Post #1441 » by **Skin** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:04 pm

[quote="halo097rip]

I have a question. Why can't we send Peaches and/or Marcin Gortat and take out Daniel Orton to help acquire Chris Paul. Why isn't Otis going into desperation mode in trying to solidfy a deal sending CP3 to Magic. In the long run it would be worth the loss. We solve our PG position and IF David West and Emeka come to us then well we still have flexibility. I would rather trade Peaches or take on Okafor.[/quote]
Maybe, Gortat's contract is not as attractive to NOR as Orton's..? Plus salary matching gets tougher to do.

nin10doe · Post #1442 » by **nin10doe** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:19 pm

Skin wrote:OK, here's the real deal that is going on with New Orleans according to my sources (internet investigation skills) hahaha.

1. New Orleans did a lot of shuffling on draft day yesterday, but ultimately ended up with Craig Brackins and Quincy Pondexter, meanwhile shipping off $6.6M in salary (Mo Peterson). They traded pick 11 (Aldrich) and Mo Pete to OKC for picks 21 (Brackins) and 26 (Pondexter). What this means is that the team is no longer over the luxury tax threshold which is roughly projected to be around $65M (salar cap info: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4312837). However, they are still right around it, and after signing their draft picks they will be over again.

2. New Orleans owner wants to sell the team, but there is a hang up over the amount of debt the team has. So with that said, the team is actively engaged in trade talks to try to relieve salary. They want to dump Emeka Okafor's contract first and foremost. Dumping his costly long term financial commitment is definitely goal #1. This is the current hang up between Orlando and New Orleans. Finding a taker on Okafor.

3. NOR has other bad contracts too. Peja has a $15M contract, but that is not one of them. It's expiring, so that has trade value to them, plus no team in the league has a $15M TPE that could immediately alieviate that cap number for them this year. Julian Wright's contract goes through 2012, so they'd like to dump that if it makes enough sense. But after Emeka, James Posey's contract is the one that needs to go for NOR. This is where Orlando has a big advantage over other teams. Otis has that $7M dollar TPE that is attractive big time to NOR. They can do a 1 for 1 swap... and NOR would rid themselves of that contract before going into next season. This is one of the "parts of the deal" that is finalized.

4. The Hornets are upset with World Wide Wes who was trying to broker a deal to get Paul and Lebron in New Jersey. WW Wes is the one who started the Devin Harris and #3 pick to NOR for Paul rumors. WW Wes who is chummy with both Lebron and Jay-Z was trying to link them all together. Jay-Z knows that Lebron isn't coming unless he has a legit side kick and NJ can't afford 2 max contracts, so that's why the Paul trade rumors arose. NJ and NOR never had those talks. As you can see, the Nets are still holding out hope for Lebron as they passed on SF Wesley Johnson yesterday. Had they had taken him, you could probably take that as NJ folding on the Lebron sweepstakes. There was a short window where this rumor could have grown legs, but it is now officially dead as NOR has no use with Favors, with West and now Brackins. NJ balked on that rumor as well and wasn't going to risk losing Lebron by drafting Wesley Johnson.

5. How do Jameer Nelson and Vince Carter fit into the picture? Well, this is where both sides are balking. NOR considers Nelson's value worth his contract. But they don't need until it makes enough sense for them to trade Paul or Collison to us. Otis is fine in trading him away, but NOR doesn't feel pressured to trade either of their PGs just yet. Carter's contract is the attractive piece to the NOR. They want Carter's contract in return for dumping Okafor. But they don't want to give us Paul. They want to give us Collison. That only causes more balking between teams. So Otis throws that bone out there that Carter could go to the Wiz for Foye, Thornton and Hinrich. Trying to pressure NOR into believing that if they don't pull the trigger on Paul, then Carter's contract will go to WAS and NOR will still be stuck with Okafor. When this rumor leaks, NOR temporarily caves in. This is when Rev gets the email that the deal is done and we all go berzerk around here.

6. But first NOR wants to see who will be available at their picks 21 and 26. Then BOOM at 21 they get Brackins. Brackins' game is an exact duplicate of David West. Plus, NOR thinks there is a chance that West will opt out of his contract and exercise his player option next year. With the thought that NOR got their replacement for West, all of a sudden NOR tells Otis... I know you don't want to take on Okafor for just Collison, but what if we threw in David West? Carter and Nelson combine to make $24M. Collison, West, and Okafor combine to make $23.9M exact. That's a match. Otis is starting to lean YES. MORE rumors fly saying there will be fireworks in Orlando... that Otis has something up his sleeve!!! Even Howard Mass is confirming! lol.

6. But Otis is not there yet... He's in the war room watching the guys he wants fall off the draft board. So Otis tells NOR... let's swap picks... pick 26 for pick 29. At pick 26 NOR drafts Quincy Pondexter. Orlando Magic fans are rapidly posting in forums, "Damn, that's our guy!" Pick 29 comes around and the same fans post, "Huh? David Orton??? Mr. I avg 3 pts and 3 rebounds a game???" So now the deal is complete, right? Nope. NOR says, we lost our SF in Mo Pete. We still want a SF if we're losing Posey and Pondexter too. So Otis says fine, tell us who you want at 59. Stanley Robinson falls to them. So NOW the deal is done, right? NOR gets their young Center in Orton, which fills a HUGE need, they keep Paul, they have their replacement for West in Brackins, they've cleared cap with Mo Pete, and they are about to dump Okafor and Posey's contracts, and they're getting Robinson who was projected to be a first rounder by some.

7. Wrong. Now Otis is balking. The thought of drafting Daniel Orton and Stanley Robinson is sounding pretty damn good. He still wants Chris Paul and not Darren Collison. Doh!!! What a sweet mess. So now today, there are rampant rumors that Darren Collison is on the trade block. Teams all dialing in from all angles. Now that the draft is over, teams have the resources to focus on trades. Now, Otis has lost some leverage. It's open competition once again. All is quiet on the Orlando front. NOR is trying to pressure Otis into taking their deal by releasing these rumors...

8. So we sit here waiting... Will Otis do this for Collison or will he hold out for Paul? The Collison deal is set to go if Otis pulls the trigger.

The new line up would look like:

PG Darren Collison / FA
SG James Posey / FA
SF Rashard Lewis / Quincy Pondexter / Julian Wright
PF David West / Brandon Bass / Ryan Anderson
C Dwight Howard / Emeka Okafor / Marcin Gortat

But Otis still wants:

PG Chris Paul / FA
SG James Posey / FA
SF Rashard Lewis / Quincy Pondexter
PF Emeka Okafor / Brandon Bass / Ryan Anderson
C Dwight Howard / Marcin Gortat

Ah.... the sweet waiting game for Orlando Magic fans continue....

9. To be continued....

Skin Update > Rev Update. LOL. JK Rev... I love your stuff.

Wow what a bunch of BS from somebody who has no idea whats going on in New Orleans. The only thing keeping the Hornets from being sold to billionaire Gary Chouest is paperwork. Chris Paul will NOT be playing in Orlando, for that, or any other garbage deal. Call it "inside info" if it makes you feel better.

Hotshot Hower · Post #1443 » by **Hotshot Hower** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:21 pm

skin, getting some love from the ozone

J-Ville Smoke · Post #1444 » by **J-Ville Smoke** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:30 pm

nin10doe wrote:Wow what a bunch of BS from somebody who has no idea whats going on in New Orleans. The only thing keeping the Hornets from being sold to billionaire Gary Chouest is paperwork. Chris Paul will NOT be playing in Orlando, for that, or any other garbage deal. Call it "inside info" if it makes you feel better.

LOL GTFO of here. No one cares what you think is happening random poster on sports forum who decided to come troll.

EasternMagic · Post #1445 » by **EasternMagic** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:32 pm

J-Ville Smoke wrote:
nin10doe wrote:Wow what a bunch of BS from somebody who has no idea whats going on in New Orleans. The only thing keeping the Hornets from being sold to billionaire Gary Chouest is paperwork. Chris Paul will NOT be playing in Orlando, for that, or any other garbage deal. Call it "inside info" if it makes you feel better.

LOL GTFO of here. No one cares what you think is happening random poster on sports forum who decided to come troll.

He's a Hornets fan.. its understandable why he's hot.. but that doesnt change us getting Chris Paul :wink:

halo097rip · Post #1446 » by **halo097rip** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:36 pm

Can I get a link to OZone forums?

Post #1447 » by **Bensational** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:36 pm

I don't get what the hold up is if NoLA is adamant on trading okafor with Paul? Can't a VC, Meer, Bass package get that done? With a posey for TPE deal alongside it? Or does Otis not want to take on Okafor's contract?

If extra payroll is a big issue can't we quite easily keep okafor and send Gortat to a team like Sac, OKC or Min who can just absorb his contract? Is Otis just struggling to justify spending that much on a roleplayer? Because I understandthat. Couldn't we then ship Okafor for an expiring (Curry, Dalembert), or for someone else (Turk, Deng).

I'm sure all options have been explored but if I'm otis I just say yes to all of Paul, posey and okafor at whatever cost and then work it out from there. Get them on the team first and then make more deals.

nin10doe · Post #1448 » by **nin10doe** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:37 pm

EasternMagic wrote:
J-Ville Smoke wrote:
nin10doe wrote:Wow what a bunch of BS from somebody who has no idea whats going on in New Orleans. The only thing keeping the Hornets from being sold to billionaire Gary Chouest is paperwork. Chris Paul will NOT be playing in Orlando, for that, or any other garbage deal. Call it "inside info" if it makes you feel better.

LOL GTFO of here. No one cares what you think is happening random poster on sports forum who decided to come troll.

He's a Hornets fan.. its understandable why he's hot.. but that doesnt change us getting Chris Paul

If that makes you feel better about spending the last 24 hours of your life on a nonsense story, thats certainly fine

MagicalMan · Post #1449 » by **MagicalMan** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:42 pm

nin10doe wrote:If that makes you feel better about spending the last 24 hours of your life on a nonsense story, thats certainly fine

shows what you know. its almost been 72.

BN · Post #1450 » by BN » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:44 pm

MagicalMan wrote:
nin10doe wrote:If that makes you feel better about spending the last 24 hours of your life on a nonsense story, thats certainly fine

shows what you know. its almost been 72.

Oh yeah, we totally showed him!

Optimus_Steel · Post #1451 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:46 pm

TheRevTy wrote:I will say, Thief knew we were getting Courtney Lee before anybody else.

That is absolutely true. He said way before anyone that with certainty we were taking Courtney. Damm I miss thief and Courtney.

nin10doe · Post #1452 » by **nin10doe** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:46 pm

MagicalMan wrote:
nin10doe wrote:If that makes you feel better about spending the last 24 hours of your life on a nonsense story, thats certainly fine

shows what you know. its almost been 72.

Wow 72 Hours!!! I wonder what could possibly be holding this thing up, lol.

halo097rip · Post #1453 » by **halo097rip** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:47 pm

Sorry if this is off topic but what is the link to this Ozone forums I am hearing. Thanks.

EasternMagic · Post #1454 » by **EasternMagic** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:48 pm

MagicalMan wrote:
nin10doe wrote:If that makes you feel better about spending the last 24 hours of your life on a nonsense story, thats certainly fine

shows what you know. its almost been 72.

ya noob

backasswards · Post #1455 » by **backasswards** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:48 pm

halo097rip wrote:Sorry if this is off topic but what is the link to this Ozone forums I am hearing. Thanks.

http://orlandomagiczone.com/eve/forums/ ... 8891029871

magicman123 · Post #1456 » by **magicman123** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:00 pm

i thought thief turned out to be fake?

Skin · Post #1457 » by **Skin** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:07 pm

[quote="nin10doe]Wow what a bunch of BS from somebody who has no idea whats going on in New Orleans. The only thing keeping the Hornets from being sold to billionaire Gary Chouest is paperwork. Chris Paul will NOT be playing in Orlando, for that, or any other garbage deal. Call it "inside info" if it makes you feel better.[/quote]
You're a complete nincompoop if you missed the first paragraph of that post.

Rick Rolled · Post #1458 » by **Rick Rolled** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:07 pm

magicman123 wrote:i thought thief turned out to be fake?

He claimed to be close to making the Hornets roster.... and was a D-League player, ect....

A few inquiries into that exposed him as a fake.

Skin · Post #1459 » by **Skin** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:08 pm

Hotshot Hower wrote:skin, getting some love from the ozone

What do you mean? I'm curious now... :lol:

nin10doe · Post #1460 » by **nin10doe** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:17 pm

Skin wrote:[quote="nin10doe]Wow what a bunch of BS from somebody who has no idea whats going on in New Orleans. The only thing keeping the Hornets from being sold to billionaire Gary Chouest is paperwork. Chris Paul will NOT be playing in Orlando, for that, or any other garbage deal. Call it "inside info" if it makes you feel better.[/quote]
You're a complete nincompoop if you missed the first paragraph of that post.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

No i read it and what i do know is that you're doing your best to excite Magic fans over something that never was.

Why has it been 3 days with no legit media sources even speculating about it? Why did the only outlet to actually report anything about it(wkmg-Orlando) later end up taking the made up story off their website?

If im not a legit enough source, maybe the Hornets vice-president is:

[link=(http://www.webwiseforradio.com/site_fil ... -23-10.mp3)]LINK[/link]