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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1461 » by rcklsscognition » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:11 am

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/o ... 177.column

Apparently BBD was the one who got vocal after the Hawks loss.

Stan Van Gundy was still in the room, and Davis screamed, "Coach, let us do our thing!"


But as one player told me, there was some rolling of the eyes in the locker room, considering Howard has a bigger credibility issue than Davis.

As much as Howard still wants to be a voice and conscience of the club, he lost a foothold after delivering his trade request early in training camp.

Teammates have struggled at times trying to follow the superstar, who isn't wholly committed to the franchise.

The Magic aren't a young, inexperienced team anymore. Do they really need to call a team meeting to remind guys to play hard?
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1462 » by thelead » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:20 am

rcklsscognition wrote:http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/os-magic-schmitz-sunday-0226-20120225,0,4962177.column

Apparently BBD was the one who got vocal after the Hawks loss.

Stan Van Gundy was still in the room, and Davis screamed, "Coach, let us do our thing!"


But as one player told me, there was some rolling of the eyes in the locker room, considering Howard has a bigger credibility issue than Davis.

As much as Howard still wants to be a voice and conscience of the club, he lost a foothold after delivering his trade request early in training camp.

Teammates have struggled at times trying to follow the superstar, who isn't wholly committed to the franchise.

The Magic aren't a young, inexperienced team anymore. Do they really need to call a team meeting to remind guys to play hard?


makes sense, BBD plays hard EVERY night.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1463 » by eyriq » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:35 am

BBD has the credibility of an Adam Morrison. Someone needs to put him in his place or ship his inflated ego out of town.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1464 » by dsg2021 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:36 am

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IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:So. . .how may people here think Dwight actually already knows what he's going to do and how many people think he has no clue what he wants?


I think Dwight does not know which way he prefers to go.


I think he decided to leave earlier in the season. He could be 50/50 at times or even now but when offseason rolls around, he will see Dallas with Dirk and Deron, or NY with Deron and pick 1. In the offseason, it's all agent talk and big market hype in his ears. The Magic would have to go to a competitive ECF at the least for Dwight to keep thinking about staying home in another lasting way. Who knows, we may seed up with lucky match ups and we may also just see our team hit another level after Mar. 15th if Dwight's still here because now he's locked in until summer after playoffs and the team knows it, he knows it, and they step up around him even more.

Is it fair the Magic have to step up in these playoffs specifically to show Dwight we are still title contenders? I don't think so when I look at players like Dirk, Pierce who stayed forever and still won titles in their later primes. Kobe and MJ also took lumps at points in their careers. LBJ is taking lumps now still.

That's why I think demoting/firing Otis and getting a new GM is the best move now. We need a GM who will sell Dwight on an Orlando future. The most obvious plan is to get cap space, we can get plenty, I think max space, in 1-2 seasons, with no complicated maneuvers either. What's wrong with fighting for 1st-5th in East/League while getting max cap space soon? There are some obvious stars who'd dramatically improve us even more. They're not CP3, but for how good our team role players and team offense system is, they are the kind of stars who'd help put Dwight over the top as the next guy who did it on his own. One title in Orlando equals two or more in those big markets, and I think Dwight might know that too as one of his Orlando-side reasons. It's a pretty damn big reason.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1465 » by thelead » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:36 am

eyriq wrote:BBD has the credibility of an Adam Morrison. Someone needs to put him in his place or ship his inflated ego out of town.


I sort of agree but someone needed to stand up to SVG's micromanaging.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1466 » by dsg2021 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:45 am

Btw, I just saw the movie "Goon." It was so good that I really think the Magic staff should consider playing it around the Magic players; like on a long flight or as a motivational video homework.
This will show them how to have an edge. 8-)
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1467 » by PeePee la Fritz » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:53 am

thelead wrote:
eyriq wrote:BBD has the credibility of an Adam Morrison. Someone needs to put him in his place or ship his inflated ego out of town.


I sort of agree but someone needed to stand up to SVG's micromanaging.


He's the only one on the roster who's experienced a championship culture. And he obviously doesn't like what he's seeing. I think he has the most right to speak up. Which soft player on the roster would you rather have doing it. Say what you will about his performance this year, but at least he has a pair.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1468 » by OMPunk » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:59 am

PeePee la Fritz wrote:
thelead wrote:
eyriq wrote:BBD has the credibility of an Adam Morrison. Someone needs to put him in his place or ship his inflated ego out of town.


I sort of agree but someone needed to stand up to SVG's micromanaging.


He's the only one on the roster who's experienced a championship culture.
And he obviously doesn't like what he's seeing. I think he has the most right to speak up. Which soft player on the roster would you rather have doing it. Say what you will about his performance this year, but at least he has a pair.



THIS....anything that gives us a culture similar to the Celtics I'm all for. Boston's attitude and unwillingness to accept anything less then the best from 1-15 led to a title and an extremely successful run under the KG-Ray-PP regime, I wish the Magic were like that.
Random Laker Fan wrote:Glad to have Dwight on my team but dude is a fraud and a clown at the same time. He's like one of those guys that makes up stories to get a reaction from people who he thinks cares.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1469 » by mattyBoi » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:06 am

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PeePee la Fritz wrote:
thelead wrote:
I sort of agree but someone needed to stand up to SVG's micromanaging.


He's the only one on the roster who's experienced a championship culture.
And he obviously doesn't like what he's seeing. I think he has the most right to speak up. Which soft player on the roster would you rather have doing it. Say what you will about his performance this year, but at least he has a pair.



THIS....anything that gives us a culture similar to the Celtics I'm all for. Boston's attitude and unwillingness to accept anything less then the best from 1-15 led to a title and an extremely successful run under the KG-Ray-PP regime, I wish the Magic were like that.


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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1470 » by thelead » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:11 am

PeePee la Fritz wrote:
thelead wrote:
eyriq wrote:BBD has the credibility of an Adam Morrison. Someone needs to put him in his place or ship his inflated ego out of town.


I sort of agree but someone needed to stand up to SVG's micromanaging.


He's the only one on the roster who's experienced a championship culture. And he obviously doesn't like what he's seeing. I think he has the most right to speak up. Which soft player on the roster would you rather have doing it. Say what you will about his performance this year, but at least he has a pair.


Which is why he called out SVG. Although, we really don't have leaders like Garnett, Allen, and Pierce for SVG to lean on for leadership... Dwight doesn't have KG's fire unfortunately. It's unfortunate that Dwight tries to be a leader after requesting a trade. I'm not surprised teammates were rolling their eyes. Especially after Dwight was loafing on defense against Atlanta.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1471 » by magicman123 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:14 am

eyriq wrote:BBD has the credibility of an Adam Morrison. Someone needs to put him in his place or ship his inflated ego out of town.


besides jj who else will be vocal? the rest of them will hide in the corners with their tails between their legs
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1472 » by Def Swami » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:18 am

In B 4 XII
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1473 » by ADRajX » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:26 am

I'll put up Part XII in about 10-15 minutes... just typing up some stuff real quick :)

Btw, I don't mind BBD being vocal and standing up to SVG... but I also don't want distractions or rifts being caused in the locker-room... it's a tough line to balance on.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1474 » by PeePee la Fritz » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:27 am

Cannot believe the thread has made it this far!
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1475 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:37 am

I remember back when people almost decided to not continue this thread! We've nurtured it all the way til part 12!
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part XI) 

Post#1476 » by ADRajX » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:41 am

Part XII is here -> viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1163945
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