Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV, Mods Close)

arkknight1988 · Post #1461 » by **arkknight1988** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:30 am

Maverick1978 wrote:Here's a list of players that need to be shipped out:

Jrich
Hedo
Jameer
Duhon
Big baby

By sending out these individuals we move in the right direction...

i agree with this. turk is a huge problem he just doesn't seem like he cares.

Jordan45822 · Post #1462 » by **Jordan45822** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:33 am

Pretty sure Berger is drunk and meant Noah not Boozer. If he is serious than he lost his brain. Orlando take Boozer unless. Dwight is there.

It's moot anyways since Dwight doesn't want there.

arkknight1988 · Post #1463 » by **arkknight1988** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:34 am

i find it hard to believe that the magic havent gotten an answer good or bad from dwight yet.

ADRajX · Post #1464 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:35 am

arkknight1988 wrote:i find it hard to believe that the magic havent gotten an answer good or bad from dwight yet.

I think the meeting with Martins and Dwight (from the Josh Robbins OS article today that was posted a few pages back) might have shed some light on what the Magic ends up doing.

arkknight1988 · Post #1465 » by **arkknight1988** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:36 am

Nolimit1211 wrote:Monta/D.Lee/Brown(Expiring) for Dwight/Baby/Duhon........

-Monta>Lopez
-We'd sell tickets while still tanking.
-Giving D12 right now to NJ wouldn't give us a good pick.
-We shed contracts
-Letting him walk doesn't guarantee us a stud in the draft.

GS > NJ

u forgot marshon brooks and the nets taking back turkoglu. also they will have a top 10 pick this year w/without dwight.

brooks will be a more complete sg than ellis in the near future.

ADRajX · Post #1466 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:36 am

Getting close to 100, I'll have Part XVI up tonight. Almost there.

VeryStupidFan · Post #1467 » by **VeryStupidFan** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:37 am

I also think you guys are getting kind of hosed by the results of the Knicks-Nuggets trade last year. It doesn't matter that Dwight is probably twice as valuable as Carmelo, GMs are looking at that trade where NYK "gutted their team" and are about the same as they were before the trade. NBA GMs are pretty bad like their counterparts in other professional sports and really don't understand how valuable superstar players are. What would Dwight be making on the open market? If there were a salary cap but every player was a free agent every year, somebody would pay Dwight 40m a year and try to build a team of low-priced shooters around him. This team may not win the championship but it's going to be pretty good because Dwight is a playoff team by himself.

You guys have a really good board and a generally good sense of the value of players. I see a lot of trades that don't recognize how awful the contracts of Turk, FFD (much better than BBD imo), and Nelson are, but that's pretty standard, everyone on the Bulls board wants to trade Boozer for Gasol. You guys are pretty good.

cb1115 · Post #1468 » by **cb1115** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:38 am

That Bulls trade might be worse than Mass Effect 3's ending.

EasternMagic · Post #1469 » by **EasternMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:40 am

VeryStupidFan wrote:I also think you guys are getting kind of hosed by the results of the Knicks-Nuggets trade last year. It doesn't matter that Dwight is probably twice as valuable as Carmelo, GMs are looking at that trade where NYK "gutted their team" and are about the same as they were before the trade. NBA GMs are pretty bad like their counterparts in other professional sports and really don't understand how valuable superstar players are. What would Dwight be making on the open market? If there were a salary cap but every player was a free agent every year, somebody would pay Dwight 40m a year and try to build a team of low-priced shooters around him. This team may not win the championship but it's going to be pretty good because Dwight is a playoff team by himself.

You guys have a really good board and a generally good sense of the value of players. I see a lot of trades that don't recognize how awful the contracts of Turk, FFD (much better than BBD imo), and Nelson are, but that's pretty standard, everyone on the Bulls board wants to trade Boozer for Gasol. You guys are pretty good.

You ever want to come on over to the dark side... we'll welcome you with to the blue and white.

singal3 · Post #1470 » by **singal3** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:40 am

VeryStupidFan wrote:I also think you guys are getting kind of hosed by the results of the Knicks-Nuggets trade last year. It doesn't matter that Dwight is probably twice as valuable as Carmelo, GMs are looking at that trade where NYK "gutted their team" and are about the same as they were before the trade. NBA GMs are pretty bad like their counterparts in other professional sports and really don't understand how valuable superstar players are. What would Dwight be making on the open market? If there were a salary cap but every player was a free agent every year, somebody would pay Dwight 40m a year and try to build a team of low-priced shooters around him. This team may not win the championship but it's going to be pretty good because Dwight is a playoff team by himself.

You guys have a really good board and a generally good sense of the value of players. I see a lot of trades that don't recognize how awful the contracts of Turk, FFD (much better than BBD imo), and Nelson are, but that's pretty standard, everyone on the Bulls board wants to trade Boozer for Gasol. You guys are pretty good.

For the record its Boozer, CJ Watson, Charlotte 1st round pick for Gasol. (clearly you guys wouldn't care, but this guy doesn't represent our board).

Post #1471 » by **ChosenSavior** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:40 am

cb1115 wrote:That Bulls trade might be worse than Mass Effect 3's ending.

Haven't gotten a chance to play Mass Effect 3 yet as I'm still working on the first two right now. Is the ending really that terrible cause I would like to wager you that Final Fantasy XIII-2's ending was far worse... :lol:

Nyce_1 · Post #1472 » by **Nyce_1** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:43 am

jameeeeer · Post #1473 » by **jameeeeer** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:43 am

XVI!!!

may sixteen bring us monta

cb1115 · Post #1474 » by **cb1115** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:43 am

ChosenSavior wrote:
cb1115 wrote:That Bulls trade might be worse than Mass Effect 3's ending.

Haven't gotten a chance to play Mass Effect 3 yet as I'm still working on the first two right now. Is the ending really that terrible cause I would like to wager you that Final Fantasy XIII-2's ending was far worse...

Holy mother of God it's terrible.

I played through ME2 4 times. I will not go back and play through ME3 again. So bad.

gibby6385 · Post #1475 » by **gibby6385** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:43 am

Bulls fan here, I know you guys are talking bout other pieces, but who else has an offer? Okc,Gs,NJ all seem to have been turned down. Dallas no pieces, LA the Buss's are stubborn. I really don't see any other team coming with an offer. Think average fan, not you guys. Boozer is a big name.

ADRajX · Post #1476 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:44 am

cb1115 wrote:That Bulls trade might be worse than Mass Effect 3's ending.

BelgianMagic · Post #1477 » by **BelgianMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:44 am

I B T L

ADRajX · Post #1478 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:44 am

jameeeeer wrote:XVI!!!

may sixteen bring us monta

Lol me too. Almost at 100 though... a few more posts.

Post #1479 » by **ChosenSavior** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:45 am

cb1115 wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:
cb1115 wrote:That Bulls trade might be worse than Mass Effect 3's ending.

Haven't gotten a chance to play Mass Effect 3 yet as I'm still working on the first two right now. Is the ending really that terrible cause I would like to wager you that Final Fantasy XIII-2's ending was far worse...

Holy mother of God it's terrible.

I played through ME2 4 times. I will not go back and play through ME3 again. So bad.

Damn that is a total buzzkill, oh well I'll still be playing it anyways at least until Xenoblade for the Wii comes out in April.

ADRajX · Post #1480 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:45 am

gibby6385 wrote:Bulls fan here, I know you guys are talking bout other pieces, but who else has an offer? Okc,Gs,NJ all seem to have been turned down. Dallas no pieces, LA the Buss's are stubborn. I really don't see any other team coming with an offer. Think average fan, not you guys. Boozer is a big name.

Boozer is also in his 30s and on a terrible deal. We're better off letting Dwight walk than taking on Boozer imo.