Official Spec Thread: Regular Season

YosemiteSam · Post #1461 » by **YosemiteSam** » Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:37 pm

Was looking at some box scores and I was wondering if the Magic’s offense style causes our players to suffer from a counting stats perspective. It seems like other than once in a while for Cole or Paolo, no player seems to put up a lot of shots, especially Franz, or get a lot of minutes. Guys on Houston get 9 shots on 8 minutes PT, and somehow Jordan Hawkins on the Pel’s is averaging 14 shots a game. I wonder if Mose’s offense will hurt our counting stats and our chances of getting All Stars or other awards. Guess it don’t matter if we win.

pepe1991 · Post #1462 » by **pepe1991** » Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:04 pm

YosemiteSam wrote:Was looking at some box scores and I was wondering if the Magic’s offense style causes our players to suffer from a counting stats perspective. It seems like other than once in a while for Cole or Paolo, no player seems to put up a lot of shots, especially Franz, or get a lot of minutes. Guys on Houston get 9 shots on 8 minutes PT, and somehow Jordan Hawkins on the Pel’s is averaging 14 shots a game. I wonder if Mose’s offense will hurt our counting stats and our chances of getting All Stars or other awards. Guess it don’t matter if we win.

I was wondering how slow our starter plays...

And well, this is answer to my question , but yours as well

granted sample size is ultra small, but also that pace difference among starters of Magic and any other team is crazy.

Audi · Post #1463 » by **Audi** » Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:05 pm

YosemiteSam wrote:Was looking at some box scores and I was wondering if the Magic’s offense style causes our players to suffer from a counting stats perspective. It seems like other than once in a while for Cole or Paolo, no player seems to put up a lot of shots, especially Franz, or get a lot of minutes. Guys on Houston get 9 shots on 8 minutes PT, and somehow Jordan Hawkins on the Pel’s is averaging 14 shots a game. I wonder if Mose’s offense will hurt our counting stats and our chances of getting All Stars or other awards. Guess it don’t matter if we win.

In terms of potential awards or whatnot - yes they suffer in that sense. Roster will always influence counting stats, be it by minutes distribution or players and roles on the floor. We are very much a “scoring by committee” squad at the moment. However, our two core players are young and still defining their games. Their own individual improvements over time will boost the stats and more wins will gain recognition. Couple that with current aging stars who’ll leave an award void, I don’t think it’ll be too much an issue.

Post #1464 » by **eyriq** » Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:22 pm

Some individual player things I'll be looking for this season:

Paolo improving his efficiency. I'll likely monitor PER to track this, want a 3 point jump into the 18 range. Would love to see him up above 20.

Franz being more assertive. I'll probably monitor usg%. Would like ~25%.

Suggs increasing his role. I'd like him to stay healthy and join Paolo and Franz in the core. I'll monitor minutes played, looking for him to be 3rd on the team in this.

Black having a successful season. I'll monitor his productivity relative to other rookies, particularly Amen and Ausar. Having more points, rebounds, assists, and stocks on better efficiency is what I'm watching for.

YosemiteSam · Post #1465 » by **YosemiteSam** » Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:26 pm

Double post

YosemiteSam · Post #1466 » by **YosemiteSam** » Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:27 pm

YosemiteSam wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
YosemiteSam wrote:Was looking at some box scores and I was wondering if the Magic’s offense style causes our players to suffer from a counting stats perspective. It seems like other than once in a while for Cole or Paolo, no player seems to put up a lot of shots, especially Franz, or get a lot of minutes. Guys on Houston get 9 shots on 8 minutes PT, and somehow Jordan Hawkins on the Pel’s is averaging 14 shots a game. I wonder if Mose’s offense will hurt our counting stats and our chances of getting All Stars or other awards. Guess it don’t matter if we win.

I was wondering how slow our starter plays...

And well, this is answer to my question , but yours as well

granted sample size is ultra small, but also that pace difference among starters of Magic and any other team is crazy.

That is insane. Passes the eye test though. We are so deliberate, which is weird for a bad half court team.

drsd · Post #1467 » by **drsd** » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:47 pm

eyriq wrote:
SOUL wrote:My friend started a campaign in basketball-gm (basketball sim) and look how Franz's career turned out...

Wow, that is fire. 2 rings, finals MVP both times. 8x scoring champ, 16x all-star, 13 x all-nba 1st team. 27/8/6 on .48/.38/.91 shooting. May we live in this world.

And $610,000,000.00 in salary earned. Hmm.

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Post #1468 » by **SOUL** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:04 am

Lol Elfrid Payton is an emergency replacement for the Cairns Taipans and has 21-7-7 against the Raps!! Go Elf!!

Post #1469 » by **Knightro** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:06 am

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BadMofoPimp · Post #1470 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:25 am

YosemiteSam wrote:Was looking at some box scores and I was wondering if the Magic’s offense style causes our players to suffer from a counting stats perspective. It seems like other than once in a while for Cole or Paolo, no player seems to put up a lot of shots, especially Franz, or get a lot of minutes. Guys on Houston get 9 shots on 8 minutes PT, and somehow Jordan Hawkins on the Pel’s is averaging 14 shots a game. I wonder if Mose’s offense will hurt our counting stats and our chances of getting All Stars or other awards. Guess it don’t matter if we win.

Don't need no black holes chucking shots. Prefer players play in a team oriented offense. Points will come to those who excel in their role and get more plays called for them.

RookieStar · Post #1471 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:45 am

SOUL wrote:Lol Elfrid Payton is an emergency replacement for the Cairns Taipans and has 21-7-7 against the Raps!! Go Elf!!

Elf coulsnt stick around a NBA roster?

Hmmm he always was a trip-dub threat

Post #1472 » by **Bensational** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:34 am

SOUL wrote:Lol Elfrid Payton is an emergency replacement for the Cairns Taipans and has 21-7-7 against the Raps!! Go Elf!!

I saw “E. Peyton” in the boxscore for Cairns and chuckled at the similarity. Then saw it was a typo on his name and he was a fill in! My dreams have come true - Payton now has an Australian association.

I hope he can get himself back on an NBA squad, but if he chooses to come play for an Australian team I wouldn’t complain at all.

pepe1991 · Post #1473 » by **pepe1991** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:58 am

Kuminga 17 FTA, wtf? lol

drsd · Post #1474 » by **drsd** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:01 am

A five day break between preseason games; the NBA is taking Load Management overly seriously here. It's not like any starter will log more than 20 mpg.

basketballRob · Post #1475 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:34 pm

drsd wrote:A five day break between preseason games; the NBA is taking Load Management overly seriously here. It's not like any starter will log more than 20 mpg.

I don't think we've had a fan friendly schedule early on. No weekend games, no TV, the first two games, and most of the early games are out west .

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ogmagicfan · Post #1476 » by **ogmagicfan** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:11 pm

Our pace, particularly with starters need to be faster. We have a young starting 5.

davey_wavy · Post #1477 » by **davey_wavy** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:19 am

Meanwhile…….

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Post #1478 » by **eyriq** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:35 am

davey_wavy wrote:Meanwhile…….

Read on Twitter
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Franz with that all-star swag

BlueBalls · Post #1479 » by **BlueBalls** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:17 am

Been watching Cam Whitmore and I still can’t believe we passed on him. Huge mistake.

basketballRob · Post #1480 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:26 am

Houston, Portland, and the Lakers should all be wins to start the season.

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