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Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:08 pm
by damo[23]
Fans want to vent frustration or use OTT expressions to show their thoughts.

Unless it is out of line nothing we can do about it here.

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:45 pm
by DMack78
Catledge wrote:
Obie09 wrote:Jeryl Sasser was trash.


Reece Gaines too.


Can we throw Steven Hunter in the TRASH can as well?

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:40 pm
by Mad Guru
I hope someone brought up Reece Gaines in this thread.

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:41 am
by IGotDaMagicInMe
claudio-br wrote:oh please, let us call anybody trash if we want too. this is something that really freaks me out about watching sports in America. you cant cuss, fans dont have chants like european or south american supporters have, etc etc...


Yeah, but the tradeoff is we don't have riots, or have players boycott the game because fans yelled a racist slur at them etc.

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:19 am
by Def Swami
Reece Gaines was trash.

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:08 am
by arsenal6106
VGOSWAMI wrote:Reece Gaines was trash.


Way of WADE
@DwyaneWade
Reese Gaines from Louisville RT @gerald22129: @DwyaneWade best player u played against in college?

Aug 29 2012

:lol:

Link:
http://www.cardchronicle.com/2012/8/29/ ... r-he-faced

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:13 am
by Hilltop
This kinda reminds me of that argument Jalen Rose had with Skip Bayless and Stephen A with regards to calling players "scrubs".

I'm sure we are all aware of how talented even the last guy on the bench is. We all know that he is also making a lot more money than the average American. But the fact remains, we are evaluating them relative to their peers. We are judging them with a higher standard, and rightfully so. In this particular context, I don't see anything wrong with calling players scrubs or worse, trash. They are NBA trash if that makes them feel any better (lol).

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:43 pm
by claudio-br
IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
claudio-br wrote:oh please, let us call anybody trash if we want too. this is something that really freaks me out about watching sports in America. you cant cuss, fans dont have chants like european or south american supporters have, etc etc...


Yeah, but the tradeoff is we don't have riots, or have players boycott the game because fans yelled a racist slur at them etc.

of course. on the other hand, watching the whole game on your seat instead of on your feet is pretty boring. and singing only '' lets-go-ma-gic clap clap clapclapclap '' isnt so cool also.

and, obviously, you dont have to be violent to make games more exciting. nowadays, violence is decreasing in sports and it is getting safer...

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:52 pm
by craig01
magickingdom wrote:Can we please stop referring to players as "Trash"? Now I know that there are some player that are not as good as others. But they are all NBA player,the best of the best. So even the least talented ones are way better then most people playing the game. I am sorry, but I just get tired of reading threads where someone is referred to as trash, just to describe that player as not that good, or that someone is better. So can we all work this please. Thank you for letting me share my thoughts and vent.



Good luck....the odds are not exactly in your favor

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:03 pm
by drsd
damo[23] wrote:Fans want to vent frustration or use OTT expressions to show their thoughts.

Unless it is out of line nothing we can do about it here.



"OTT" is ott?

The frustration is that half of the fans want our Magic to be a lot worse, and the other half, marginally better. (there is no "a lot better" in this roster).

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Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:33 pm
by Hon-essim
There is. Get SVG to specialist coach Nikola. Rest of the team is fine.

The frustration is that no one understands what the Magic is about and half of the fanbase are still in love with Dwight and the other half is in love with the old players like Jameer and Redick and then some of the halves are in love with young studs and everyone else that does not go into that category is trash.

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:42 pm
by magicman123
Trash (noun):

1: something worth little or nothing

2. empty talk : nonsense : inferior or worthless writing or artistic matter; especially : such matter intended purely for sensational entertainment

Trash (verb):

1. attack, assault
2. to condemn, dismiss, or criticize as worthless

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:25 pm
by magickingdom
OK OK after reading all the previous post, let me just say then: let's all scream together and tell them to take out the damn trash. There you go, now I think that I have accommodated everyone who posted here. In reality I really have no problem with discriptive words like suck, stink or scrub. I just did not think that trash really was a good word to describe some players. Sorry if I did not elaborate on that better.

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:58 pm
by magicman123
its all good Kingdom, some words bother me too, however when im really upset and venting the word trash feels like a good stress release word, lol, even though i don't really use it...to each his own

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:34 pm
by Catledge
DMack78 wrote:
Catledge wrote:
Obie09 wrote:Jeryl Sasser was trash.


Reece Gaines too.


Can we throw Steven Hunter in the TRASH can as well?


Didn't we trade Brendon Haywood because we thought Hunter would be a stud? Yikes.

In any event, I'd put Mark Acres at the top of the list of trashy Orlando Magic centers. He took crappiness to another level entirely.

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:37 pm
by Horcy
Obie09 wrote:Jeryl Sasser was trash.


Damn he was trash :lol:


magickingdom wrote:Someone at some point did not think so? Can we just say that he was a very untalented NBA player? And he still made more money then most of us?


Dude, that's obvious. And also they still have one of the best jobs in the world, they play ball and they get paid.
Is not all about money, we are fans, man. He's trash for our team, not trash as a human being, end of story 8-)

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:52 pm
by happypedro12
Jeryl Sasser was trash.


You know who wasn't? Pat Burke!

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:34 pm
by drsd
Obie09 wrote:Jeryl Sasser was trash.


Players available when the Magic tabbed Sasser: Gerald Wallace, Sam Dalembert, Jamaal Tinsley, Tony Parker, Gilbert Arenas, Brian Scalabrine, Mehmet Okur, Earl Watson, Bobby Simmons, Loren Woods, Jarron Collins. A suite of interesting players were also left undrafted: Carlos Arroyo, Charlie Bell, Maurice Evans, Linton Johnson, Jamario Moon, Andrés Nocioni.

So in a draft were Kwame Brown went #1 overall, 17 players drafted AFTER Sasser had good to great careers.

Orlando not only got a scrub in Sasser, there were loads of draftable players available. That if Orlando had drafted Brian Scalabrine would be a story line of "a better pick" shows how horrible Sasser was.

Re: Please can we stop....

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:38 pm
by drsd
happypedro12 wrote:
Jeryl Sasser was trash.


You know who wasn't? Pat Burke!


The Irishman was a great story. I recall that he was discovered in a YMCA playing Summer pick-up games in Altamonte Springs or Apopka (I cannot recall). He ended up started on opening night that year; the Magic won the game.