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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1502 » by gom » Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:23 pm

I really like the idea of playing Nebraska during the bye week. Scott Frost's old team visits him. :-)

They also had a game cancelled (vs. Akron) so it's good for them too.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24587535/nebraska-ad-committed-finding-12th-game-cancellation
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1503 » by Xatticus » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:09 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/maine-calls-out-%e2%80%98national-champs%e2%80%99-ucf-over-cancelled-game/ar-BBNeNwz?ocid=iehp


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The writer of that article seems to be taking some liberty in his interpretation.
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1504 » by Xatticus » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:11 pm

gom wrote:I really like the idea of playing Nebraska during the bye week. Scott Frost's old team visits him. :-)

They also had a game cancelled (vs. Akron) so it's good for them too.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24587535/nebraska-ad-committed-finding-12th-game-cancellation


That won't happen. Nebraska wants to get bowl eligible this year and scheduling UCF wouldn't be doing them any favors in achieving it.
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1505 » by nymets1 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:30 pm

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gom wrote:I really like the idea of playing Nebraska during the bye week. Scott Frost's old team visits him. :-)

They also had a game cancelled (vs. Akron) so it's good for them too.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24587535/nebraska-ad-committed-finding-12th-game-cancellation


That won't happen. Nebraska wants to get bowl eligible this year and scheduling UCF wouldn't be doing them any favors in achieving it.


Nebraska has 0% chance of beating us? They have to get at least a very slim chance.
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1507 » by UCF » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:25 pm

Yeah, not a good look by the administration. I don’t imagine we get anything new funded this next budget year.
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1508 » by Duradero » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:18 pm

Nebraska being bodied by Troy; UCF would steamroll them
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1509 » by nymets1 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:22 pm

Nebraska has already lost 2 home games to start the season. To Colorado and Troy, Maybe Akron woulda beat them if the game wasn't cancelled. Nebraska still has to play

At Michigan
VS Purdue
At Wisconsin
At Northwestern
VS Minnesota
At Ohio St
Vs Illionis
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Maybe Scott Frost wishes he stayed at UCF.
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1510 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:29 pm

nymets1 wrote:Nebraska has already lost 2 home games to start the season. To Colorado and Troy, Maybe Akron woulda beat them if the game wasn't cancelled. Nebraska still has to play

At Michigan
VS Purdue
At Wisconsin
At Northwestern
VS Minnesota
At Ohio St
Vs Illionis
VS Michigan St
At Iowa

Maybe Scott Frost wishes he stayed at UCF.


Losses at Nebraska are more meaningful than wins at UCF. Clearly last season proved that ...

Imagine what wins at Nebraska will get him if and when he turns it around?
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1511 » by Xatticus » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:36 pm

Nebraska is starting a walk-on at QB right now. They only have one eligible QB on scholarship right now and he was injured by a dirty Colorado linebacker that cranked his knee at the end of a play last week. They likely would've won both games had that not happened. I don't think Nebraska fans or Scott Frost are too worried about their future right now, but this could be a rough season.
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1512 » by EAS Law » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:52 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
nymets1 wrote:Nebraska has already lost 2 home games to start the season. To Colorado and Troy, Maybe Akron woulda beat them if the game wasn't cancelled. Nebraska still has to play

At Michigan
VS Purdue
At Wisconsin
At Northwestern
VS Minnesota
At Ohio St
Vs Illionis
VS Michigan St
At Iowa

Maybe Scott Frost wishes he stayed at UCF.


Losses at Nebraska are more meaningful than wins at UCF. Clearly last season proved that ...

Imagine what wins at Nebraska will get him if and when he turns it around?

I bet losses to Syracuse are super valuable too. Your envious posts are vomit-worthy lately
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1513 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:03 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:
nymets1 wrote:Nebraska has already lost 2 home games to start the season. To Colorado and Troy, Maybe Akron woulda beat them if the game wasn't cancelled. Nebraska still has to play

At Michigan
VS Purdue
At Wisconsin
At Northwestern
VS Minnesota
At Ohio St
Vs Illionis
VS Michigan St
At Iowa

Maybe Scott Frost wishes he stayed at UCF.


Losses at Nebraska are more meaningful than wins at UCF. Clearly last season proved that ...

Imagine what wins at Nebraska will get him if and when he turns it around?

I bet losses to Syracuse are super valuable too. Your envious posts are vomit-worthy lately


Who said anything about value?

But yes, an ACC loss is more meaningful than a UCF win. Didn’t last season prove that?

I didn’t build the system. But I do want change to the system. Focus on that instead of Nebraska or flying banners over Bama games.
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1514 » by EAS Law » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:14 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
EAS Law wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Losses at Nebraska are more meaningful than wins at UCF. Clearly last season proved that ...

Imagine what wins at Nebraska will get him if and when he turns it around?

I bet losses to Syracuse are super valuable too. Your envious posts are vomit-worthy lately


Who said anything about value?

But yes, an ACC loss is more meaningful than a UCF win. Didn’t last season prove that?

I didn’t build the system. But I do want change to the system. Focus on that instead of Nebraska or flying banners over Bama games.

Maybe as “meaningful” as a bowl victory over an SEC team? All you ever post in this thread is hyper-critical nonsense attempting to diminish clear and evident success. It’s just not a winning argument that the program is garbage or that loser teams are on the same level due to their opponents—especially when those teams are dismantled by everyone they play. I’m not trying to tout the strength of UCF’s schedule—that’s just a poor position, but it is evident that the program is a strong one when they go out and beat teams in more “meaningful” conferences consistently. I’m thinking Baylor, Georgia and Auburn. The whole “National Champions” thing is to mock the idiotic system that ranks and gives opportunity to teams on some relative system. If Auburn beat Alabama, then by the logic of the system, UCF beat the best of the best.

You’re obviously entitled to your opinion, and I would agree that UCF’s schedule is extremely weak this season comparatively speaking, but I don’t understand why your posts are so venomously hostile to the UCF program. We aren’t even in the same conference and the team is doing well—imagine UCF fans being excited about their program finally becoming relevant.
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1515 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:42 am

EAS Law wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
EAS Law wrote:I bet losses to Syracuse are super valuable too. Your envious posts are vomit-worthy lately


Who said anything about value?

But yes, an ACC loss is more meaningful than a UCF win. Didn’t last season prove that?

I didn’t build the system. But I do want change to the system. Focus on that instead of Nebraska or flying banners over Bama games.

Maybe as “meaningful” as a bowl victory over an SEC team? All you ever post in this thread is hyper-critical nonsense attempting to diminish clear and evident success. It’s just not a winning argument that the program is garbage or that loser teams are on the same level due to their opponents—especially when those teams are dismantled by everyone they play. I’m not trying to tout the strength of UCF’s schedule—that’s just a poor position, but it is evident that the program is a strong one when they go out and beat teams in more “meaningful” conferences consistently. I’m thinking Baylor, Georgia and Auburn. The whole “National Champions” thing is to mock the idiotic system that ranks and gives opportunity to teams on some relative system. If Auburn beat Alabama, then by the logic of the system, UCF beat the best of the best.

You’re obviously entitled to your opinion, and I would agree that UCF’s schedule is extremely weak this season comparatively speaking, but I don’t understand why your posts are so venomously hostile to the UCF program. We aren’t even in the same conference and the team is doing well—imagine UCF fans being excited about their program finally becoming relevant.


Because I’m not living in a false sense of success, you all think I’m hating on UCF.

I am a UCF alumni. I want a bright future for the Knights.

I’m upset with the fans who are allowing this administration to complete waste the perfect season we had.

Instead of using that to push for change or a move to a conference where such a season earns you a playoff birth we are awarding ourselves false trophies and settling for a story already forgotten by everyone else.

Perhaps also being an FSU alumni has given me an altered view of what success should look like. But why not UCF as well?

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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1516 » by tiderulz » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:00 am

EAS Law wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
EAS Law wrote:I bet losses to Syracuse are super valuable too. Your envious posts are vomit-worthy lately


Who said anything about value?

But yes, an ACC loss is more meaningful than a UCF win. Didn’t last season prove that?

I didn’t build the system. But I do want change to the system. Focus on that instead of Nebraska or flying banners over Bama games.

Maybe as “meaningful” as a bowl victory over an SEC team? All you ever post in this thread is hyper-critical nonsense attempting to diminish clear and evident success. It’s just not a winning argument that the program is garbage or that loser teams are on the same level due to their opponents—especially when those teams are dismantled by everyone they play. I’m not trying to tout the strength of UCF’s schedule—that’s just a poor position, but it is evident that the program is a strong one when they go out and beat teams in more “meaningful” conferences consistently. I’m thinking Baylor, Georgia and Auburn. The whole “National Champions” thing is to mock the idiotic system that ranks and gives opportunity to teams on some relative system. If Auburn beat Alabama, then by the logic of the system, UCF beat the best of the best.

You’re obviously entitled to your opinion, and I would agree that UCF’s schedule is extremely weak this season comparatively speaking, but I don’t understand why your posts are so venomously hostile to the UCF program. We aren’t even in the same conference and the team is doing well—imagine UCF fans being excited about their program finally becoming relevant.

no, they didnt. The transitive property does not exist, because teams match up differently. UCF did not beat UGA, they did not beat Alabama. thats like saying Arizona beat the SB Eagles, because they beat Seattle which beat Philly. it doesnt work that way
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1517 » by nymets1 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:22 am

I was kinda hoping Georgia Tech or Illinois could beat USF, Now we might have to do the dirty work to beat USF if they continue to stay undefeated.
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1518 » by EAS Law » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:14 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
EAS Law wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Who said anything about value?

But yes, an ACC loss is more meaningful than a UCF win. Didn’t last season prove that?

I didn’t build the system. But I do want change to the system. Focus on that instead of Nebraska or flying banners over Bama games.

Maybe as “meaningful” as a bowl victory over an SEC team? All you ever post in this thread is hyper-critical nonsense attempting to diminish clear and evident success. It’s just not a winning argument that the program is garbage or that loser teams are on the same level due to their opponents—especially when those teams are dismantled by everyone they play. I’m not trying to tout the strength of UCF’s schedule—that’s just a poor position, but it is evident that the program is a strong one when they go out and beat teams in more “meaningful” conferences consistently. I’m thinking Baylor, Georgia and Auburn. The whole “National Champions” thing is to mock the idiotic system that ranks and gives opportunity to teams on some relative system. If Auburn beat Alabama, then by the logic of the system, UCF beat the best of the best.

You’re obviously entitled to your opinion, and I would agree that UCF’s schedule is extremely weak this season comparatively speaking, but I don’t understand why your posts are so venomously hostile to the UCF program. We aren’t even in the same conference and the team is doing well—imagine UCF fans being excited about their program finally becoming relevant.


Because I’m not living in a false sense of success, you all think I’m hating on UCF.

I am a UCF alumni. I want a bright future for the Knights.

I’m upset with the fans who are allowing this administration to complete waste the perfect season we had.

Instead of using that to push for change or a move to a conference where such a season earns you a playoff birth we are awarding ourselves false trophies and settling for a story already forgotten by everyone else.

Perhaps also being an FSU alumni has given me an altered view of what success should look like. But why not UCF as well?

EXPECT MORE!!!!

If that is your premise then yes, you are completely right. I think every UCF fan out there wants nothing more than to be in the conversation with the big boys. I typically see your posts as aimless insults, but if that’s not your objective then I stand corrected. I admit that you probably know a lot more about the subject than I do, but I don’t think the AD or the school is settling.

Don’t the schedules get set years in advance? I agree that while having a talented team, now is the time to have meaningful games and I do wish that our schedule this season wasn’t so weak. I do believe though that the prestige of the program is strengthening significantly year by year and this time in the limelight will yield strong recruiting classes in the future.

FTR my gf is a major FSU fan and alum so I am also aligned to both schools. You guys will turn it around again too. I believe you’ll have a new coach within the next couple of weeks though.
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1519 » by EAS Law » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:21 am

tiderulz wrote:
EAS Law wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Who said anything about value?

But yes, an ACC loss is more meaningful than a UCF win. Didn’t last season prove that?

I didn’t build the system. But I do want change to the system. Focus on that instead of Nebraska or flying banners over Bama games.

Maybe as “meaningful” as a bowl victory over an SEC team? All you ever post in this thread is hyper-critical nonsense attempting to diminish clear and evident success. It’s just not a winning argument that the program is garbage or that loser teams are on the same level due to their opponents—especially when those teams are dismantled by everyone they play. I’m not trying to tout the strength of UCF’s schedule—that’s just a poor position, but it is evident that the program is a strong one when they go out and beat teams in more “meaningful” conferences consistently. I’m thinking Baylor, Georgia and Auburn. The whole “National Champions” thing is to mock the idiotic system that ranks and gives opportunity to teams on some relative system. If Auburn beat Alabama, then by the logic of the system, UCF beat the best of the best.

You’re obviously entitled to your opinion, and I would agree that UCF’s schedule is extremely weak this season comparatively speaking, but I don’t understand why your posts are so venomously hostile to the UCF program. We aren’t even in the same conference and the team is doing well—imagine UCF fans being excited about their program finally becoming relevant.

no, they didnt. The transitive property does not exist, because teams match up differently. UCF did not beat UGA, they did not beat Alabama. thats like saying Arizona beat the SB Eagles, because they beat Seattle which beat Philly. it doesnt work that way

In college football, the ranking system absolutley uses a transitive system to determine rank. Other factors are also at play such as margin of victory and SOS, but who you beat or who beat you and the subsequent performance of your opopponent absolutely affects ranking. I am not saying UCF literally beat Alabama, I am saying that the way the system is designed was mocked by this “national champion” thing.
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Re: #18 UCF [2-0]: @ UNC (canceled) 

Post#1520 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:41 am

EAS Law wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
EAS Law wrote:Maybe as “meaningful” as a bowl victory over an SEC team? All you ever post in this thread is hyper-critical nonsense attempting to diminish clear and evident success. It’s just not a winning argument that the program is garbage or that loser teams are on the same level due to their opponents—especially when those teams are dismantled by everyone they play. I’m not trying to tout the strength of UCF’s schedule—that’s just a poor position, but it is evident that the program is a strong one when they go out and beat teams in more “meaningful” conferences consistently. I’m thinking Baylor, Georgia and Auburn. The whole “National Champions” thing is to mock the idiotic system that ranks and gives opportunity to teams on some relative system. If Auburn beat Alabama, then by the logic of the system, UCF beat the best of the best.

You’re obviously entitled to your opinion, and I would agree that UCF’s schedule is extremely weak this season comparatively speaking, but I don’t understand why your posts are so venomously hostile to the UCF program. We aren’t even in the same conference and the team is doing well—imagine UCF fans being excited about their program finally becoming relevant.


Because I’m not living in a false sense of success, you all think I’m hating on UCF.

I am a UCF alumni. I want a bright future for the Knights.

I’m upset with the fans who are allowing this administration to complete waste the perfect season we had.

Instead of using that to push for change or a move to a conference where such a season earns you a playoff birth we are awarding ourselves false trophies and settling for a story already forgotten by everyone else.

Perhaps also being an FSU alumni has given me an altered view of what success should look like. But why not UCF as well?

EXPECT MORE!!!!

If that is your premise then yes, you are completely right. I think every UCF fan out there wants nothing more than to be in the conversation with the big boys. I typically see your posts as aimless insults, but if that’s not your objective then I stand corrected. I admit that you probably know a lot more about the subject than I do, but I don’t think the AD or the school is settling.

Don’t the schedules get set years in advance? I agree that while having a talented team, now is the time to have meaningful games and I do wish that our schedule this season wasn’t so weak. I do believe though that the prestige of the program is strengthening significantly year by year and this time in the limelight will yield strong recruiting classes in the future.

FTR my gf is a major FSU fan and alum so I am also aligned to both schools. You guys will turn it around again too. I believe you’ll have a new coach within the next couple of weeks though.


Yes, the schedule is set years in advance. With only say 2 or 3 chances at a power-5 opponent each year and no way to determine which team will be decent on which season, this really isn’t the area to focus on.

The only way to ensure a quality schedule is to not leave it to chance and become a part of a Power-5 conference where you are set against such programs for most of every single season + a shot at a crown.

Only Notre Dame can get around this. Just a perk of being them.

TCU used their success to force their way into the BIG12. UCF seems more interested in patting themselves on the back than using their success for a better future. Yes, I’m hyper critical of this.

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