Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

[Skybox]

I'm still all in on Maxey. He had an off year at Kentucky or he'd be a high lottery pick. He's played pg his whole life before last season. Plus defensively he's very good and won EYBL dpoy and put up some great defensive stats. Knightbro made a good point that he could play along with Fultz and guard the smaller, quicker PG's.

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Me too...and I’d give him PT running the second unit As PG as well as next to Fultz...Let DJ move on and give a guy like Maxey or Lewis some serious run. Keep MCW for versatile play and PG insurance policy.

[pepe1991]

Maxey isn't even below average shooter, he is horrendus one. Some of his bricks were nothing but glass or foot short . He also has no consistency in his stroke and body whatsoever. Sometimes he palms too much ball, sometimes he lunches body toward rim for no reason, sometimes his one leg is in air for no reason. He looks like me when i shoot, among 10 shots taken , 9 different shooting formes were changed

Not spectafular athlete, not fluid, complete no treat as iso scorer, tends to be painfully bad in late clock situations ( 6-26 FG).
Vast majority of time has no ballhandling, speed nor skills to get rid of his man 1 on 1, and when he uses screens, well he still can't shoot.

However, he was 83,3% ft shooter so there is some hope that he can improve as shooter, but as i said, i don't trust "shooters" who change form of jumpshot 5 times during a game, while never making anything.

[tiderulz]

I'm still all in on Maxey. He had an off year at Kentucky or he'd be a high lottery pick. He's played pg his whole life before last season. Plus defensively he's very good and won EYBL dpoy and put up some great defensive stats. Knightbro made a good point that he could play along with Fultz and guard the smaller, quicker PG's.

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why not someone like Lewis. Same height at 6'3, but much better offensive player and shooter.

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Updated list - playmakers and shot creators Orlando significantly lacks.

1. Killian Hayes
2. Tyrell Terry
3. Anthony Edwards
4a. Tyrese Haliburton
4b. Kira Lewis
5. Tyrese Maxey
6. RJ Hampton
7. Cole Anthony

Hayes, Edwards, and Haliburton will require a trade up.
4-6 Aren’t lights out shooters but can move the ball and create, which is something we lack. Obviously Vassell, Nesmith, and Avdija would be great additions and I wouldn’t object to adding them.

Anyone else not on this list I have an issue with us taking ahead of these options if they are on the board.

[basketballRob]

I'm still all in on Maxey. He had an off year at Kentucky or he'd be a high lottery pick. He's played pg his whole life before last season. Plus defensively he's very good and won EYBL dpoy and put up some great defensive stats. Knightbro made a good point that he could play along with Fultz and guard the smaller, quicker PG's.

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why not someone like Lewis. Same height at 6'3, but much better offensive player and shooter.

Maxey has 35 lbs on Lewis, meaning he has an NBA body.

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[tiderulz]

I'm still all in on Maxey. He had an off year at Kentucky or he'd be a high lottery pick. He's played pg his whole life before last season. Plus defensively he's very good and won EYBL dpoy and put up some great defensive stats. Knightbro made a good point that he could play along with Fultz and guard the smaller, quicker PG's.

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why not someone like Lewis. Same height at 6'3, but much better offensive player and shooter.

Maxey has 35 lbs on Lewis, meaning he has an NBA body.

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was unaware we would expect Lewis to be a finished product day 1. Lewis could easily be 10-15 lbs heavier by draft time. likely been working with coaches on his body. plenty of people have NBA bodies that have subpar skills and cant shoot

[basketballRob]

why not someone like Lewis. Same height at 6'3, but much better offensive player and shooter.

Maxey has 35 lbs on Lewis, meaning he has an NBA body.

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was unaware we would expect Lewis to be a finished product day 1. Lewis could easily be 10-15 lbs heavier by draft time. likely been working with coaches on his body. plenty of people have NBA bodies that have subpar skills and cant shoot

Lewis might be my second choice and then Bey.

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[jezzerinho]

Maxey isn't even below average shooter, he is horrendus one. Some of his bricks were nothing but glass or foot short . He also has no consistency in his stroke and body whatsoever. Sometimes he palms too much ball, sometimes he lunches body toward rim for no reason, sometimes his one leg is in air for no reason. He looks like me when i shoot, among 10 shots taken , 9 different shooting formes were changed

Not spectafular athlete, not fluid, complete no treat as iso scorer, tends to be painfully bad in late clock situations ( 6-26 FG).
Vast majority of time has no ballhandling, speed nor skills to get rid of his man 1 on 1, and when he uses screens, well he still can't shoot.

However, he was 83,3% ft shooter so there is some hope that he can improve as shooter, but as i said, i don't trust "shooters" who change form of jumpshot 5 times during a game, while never making anything.

I really want to like Maxey as our pick at 15, I don't agree he has no ballhandling or speed (in fact one of his big pluses for me is his ability to drive at pace with a tight handle).

But I agree the shooting is just so maddeningly inconsistent, it's hard to believe he'll be reliable. I still like him, tho. Just have a suspicion he won't be dependable as a scorer in the short term at least.

Liking Robert Woodard II a lot. Not at all flashy but makes the smart play, has great vertical burst, fluid hips when defending, an improving jumper, good midrange skills, a spin move. Plays very much within himself and the handle is a work in progress. But basically I see what AG should accept that he is.

If you could get him at 45, wow. Can't see it tho.

[zaymon]

Maxey isn't even below average shooter, he is horrendus one. Some of his bricks were nothing but glass or foot short . He also has no consistency in his stroke and body whatsoever. Sometimes he palms too much ball, sometimes he lunches body toward rim for no reason, sometimes his one leg is in air for no reason. He looks like me when i shoot, among 10 shots taken , 9 different shooting formes were changed

Not spectafular athlete, not fluid, complete no treat as iso scorer, tends to be painfully bad in late clock situations ( 6-26 FG).
Vast majority of time has no ballhandling, speed nor skills to get rid of his man 1 on 1, and when he uses screens, well he still can't shoot.

However, he was 83,3% ft shooter so there is some hope that he can improve as shooter, but as i said, i don't trust "shooters" who change form of jumpshot 5 times during a game, while never making anything.

I really want to like Maxey as our pick at 15, I don't agree he has no ballhandling or speed (in fact one of his big pluses for me is his ability to drive at pace with a tight handle).

But I agree the shooting is just so maddeningly inconsistent, it's hard to believe he'll be reliable. I still like him, tho. Just have a suspicion he won't be dependable as a scorer in the short term at least.

Liking Robert Woodard II a lot. Not at all flashy but makes the smart play, has great vertical burst, fluid hips when defending, an improving jumper, good midrange skills, a spin move. Plays very much within himself and the handle is a work in progress. But basically I see what AG should accept that he is.

If you could get him at 45, wow. Can't see it tho.

When you are 6'3 you need to be built like a bull and either shoot off the dribble or pass on elite level. Maxey has really only his frame going for him. I dont think he will be elite shooter, he isnt a great passer, and he cant get all the way to the rim becouse of his average athletecism. Yes he is a good finisher, but you wont put the ball in his hands with the other deficiences. I like him, but i dont see much potential. Guys like Matthews and MCW play for the minimum and are superior players overall imo.

[OrlChamps2030]

Updated list - playmakers and shot creators Orlando significantly lacks.

1. Killian Hayes
2. Tyrell Terry
3. Anthony Edwards
4a. Tyrese Haliburton
4b. Kira Lewis
5. Tyrese Maxey
6. RJ Hampton
7. Cole Anthony

Hayes, Edwards, and Haliburton will require a trade up.
4-6 Aren’t lights out shooters but can move the ball and create, which is something we lack. Obviously Vassell, Nesmith, and Avdija would be great additions and I wouldn’t object to adding them.

Anyone else not on this list I have an issue with us taking ahead of these options if they are on the board.

Nice list. While one could nitpick at the order of the ranking, I agree with all the names on the list.

Maybe it’s because Terry will be in our draft range, but I’ve really come around on him. He’s not a flawless prospect (none will be at 15) but he may be the best pure shooter in the draft and he flashed some on-ball shot creation skills and good vision. Safe player that fits a need. I see something like a McCollum ceiling with a DJ Augustine floor.

WeltHam- dont overcomplicate things, at 15 just draft Terry, Lewis, Hampton or maybe Anthony/Maxey and call it a day

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Anyone see this tweet? If Terry is really 6”3 now he may be gone before we pick

[Def Swami]

If Terry is truly 6'3" and 174 lbs, then this is a no-brainer pick at #15 for me. I was already leaning his way, but adding a little bit more size will help him immensely.

[zaymon]

If Terry is truly 6'3" and 174 lbs, then this is a no-brainer pick at #15 for me. I was already leaning his way, but adding a little bit more size will help him immensely.

If we want a shooter in the first round why not take Bane ? He is 6'6 with strong frame, similar ball handler and passer. If we want undersized shooter why not take Marcus Howard in the second round or undrafted ? If we want to pick a bigger shooter why not draft Jordan Nwora or Isaiah Joe with #45 ? It will take a development miracle for Terry to be a lead ball handler in the nba. His handle and vision are not nba level for a smaller guy.

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If Terry is truly 6'3" and 174 lbs, then this is a no-brainer pick at #15 for me. I was already leaning his way, but adding a little bit more size will help him immensely.

If we want a shooter in the first round why not take Bane ? He is 6'6 with strong frame, similar ball handler and passer. If we want undersized shooter why not take Marcus Howard in the second round or undrafted ? If we want to pick a bigger shooter why not draft Jordan Nwora or Isaiah Joe with #45 ? It will take a development miracle for Terry to be a lead ball handler in the nba. His handle and vision are not nba level for a smaller guy.

Why not both. Take the higher ranked prospect and use the second rounder on one of these guys... or move up and trade for them. Oh wait, Weltman and Hammond never make moves in the draft and let every other team dictate their choices...

[Def Swami]

If Terry is truly 6'3" and 174 lbs, then this is a no-brainer pick at #15 for me. I was already leaning his way, but adding a little bit more size will help him immensely.

If we want a shooter in the first round why not take Bane ? He is 6'6 with strong frame, similar ball handler and passer. If we want undersized shooter why not take Marcus Howard in the second round or undrafted ? If we want to pick a bigger shooter why not draft Jordan Nwora or Isaiah Joe with #45 ? It will take a development miracle for Terry to be a lead ball handler in the nba. His handle and vision are not nba level for a smaller guy.

Terry, along with Aaron Nesmith, are regarded as the best shooters in the draft. I don't doubt that.

Bane, Nwora, Howard are older players. Terry is still 20 years old with more room for growth. I actually dislike the idea of diminishing value among older prospects; I think there's always good 3 and 4 year players every year to be had. So, I like those guys, but their draft value is slated for the 2nd round. So you could still take those guys in that range.

I like Terry's game. He's not just a good catch and shoot player, but one who can shoot off the bounce, coming off a screen, from 30 feet, and from 15 feet. Like Nesmith, he's good off the ball, which is hard to find in young players. He doesn't just camp in a corner. He's already great at relocating to the corner 3 like other great shooters. His 40.8% from 3 is not the same as everyone else's given the gravity he can create and the way he can leverage his threat as a shooter to open up his teammates. This is kind of what I liked about Tyler Herro's game at Kentucky and why he's thriving in the NBA right now. I think he's good enough of a ball handler right now and an okay passer. I think you bank on him to figure out those aspects of his game over time. I agree, he doesn't have the playmaking chops to be a full time lead guard. I've always thought his game was more CJ McCollum if he hits his ceiling. I think coming into the league with such elite shooting ability and high IQ is the premium right now. Teaching the rest is easier than trying to teach someone to shoot a basketball and understand the nuances of offense.

[zaymon]

If Terry is truly 6'3" and 174 lbs, then this is a no-brainer pick at #15 for me. I was already leaning his way, but adding a little bit more size will help him immensely.

If we want a shooter in the first round why not take Bane ? He is 6'6 with strong frame, similar ball handler and passer. If we want undersized shooter why not take Marcus Howard in the second round or undrafted ? If we want to pick a bigger shooter why not draft Jordan Nwora or Isaiah Joe with #45 ? It will take a development miracle for Terry to be a lead ball handler in the nba. His handle and vision are not nba level for a smaller guy.

Why not both. Take the higher ranked prospect and use the second rounder on one of these guys... or move up and trade for them. Oh wait, Weltman and Hammond never make moves in the draft and let every other team dictate their choices...

Weltman made many moves in the draft actually. I dont even remember how many second round drat picks he traded.
Personally i would target a ball handler with our frp and shooter with srp. Best case scenario for me right now would be:
First round:
Pokusevski/Lewis/Bane/Cole/Hampton
Second round:
Reed/Tillie/Riller/Merril/Joe

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If we want a shooter in the first round why not take Bane ? He is 6'6 with strong frame, similar ball handler and passer. If we want undersized shooter why not take Marcus Howard in the second round or undrafted ? If we want to pick a bigger shooter why not draft Jordan Nwora or Isaiah Joe with #45 ? It will take a development miracle for Terry to be a lead ball handler in the nba. His handle and vision are not nba level for a smaller guy.

Why not both. Take the higher ranked prospect and use the second rounder on one of these guys... or move up and trade for them. Oh wait, Weltman and Hammond never make moves in the draft and let every other team dictate their choices...

Weltman made many moves in the draft actually. I dont even remember how many second round drat picks he traded.
Personally i would target a ball handler with our frp and shooter with srp. Best case scenario for me right now would be:
First round:
Pokusevski/ Lewis/Bane/Cole / Hampton
Second round:
Reed/Tillie /Riller/Merril/Joe

These are your best case scenario players???

The second round? Sure, aside from Tillie who would never see the court in Orlando barring injury. Poku looks like a project or injury concern waiting to happen.

[zaymon]

Why not both. Take the higher ranked prospect and use the second rounder on one of these guys... or move up and trade for them. Oh wait, Weltman and Hammond never make moves in the draft and let every other team dictate their choices...

Weltman made many moves in the draft actually. I dont even remember how many second round drat picks he traded.
Personally i would target a ball handler with our frp and shooter with srp. Best case scenario for me right now would be:
First round:
Pokusevski/ Lewis/Bane/Cole / Hampton
Second round:
Reed/Tillie /Riller/Merril/Joe

These are your best case scenario players???

The second round? Sure, aside from Tillie who would never see the court in Orlando barring injury. Poku looks like a project or injury concern waiting to happen.

Maybe those were more realistic options than best case scenario. Although i would say Pokusevski and Bane in the second would be best case for me. I dont think Pokusevski goes past Spurs and certainly not past Boston. If Lonzo was 7 ft tall, could actually shoot and protect the rim he would look like Pokusevski. I think if we like him we will need to trade up.
Bane would be perfect next to Ross. Could defend stronger players, handle the ball more and rain fire from distance.
Tillie is a great option in the second round imo. First round talent outside injuries similar to LeVert during his draft process. Can shoot, handle the ball, pass, protect the rim. I believe he could handle 15 min per game. Would add some playmaking next to Bamba. God knows he needs a player like Tillie next to him.

[IllMagic04]

Terry has been the guy Ive wanted along. If hes on the board Id take him no doubt. But Im not even pressed. Theres no way our front office takes him even if hes there.

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Updated list - playmakers and shot creators Orlando significantly lacks.

1. Killian Hayes
2. Tyrell Terry
3. Anthony Edwards
4a. Tyrese Haliburton
4b. Kira Lewis
5. Tyrese Maxey
6. RJ Hampton
7. Cole Anthony

Hayes, Edwards, and Haliburton will require a trade up.
4-6 Aren’t lights out shooters but can move the ball and create, which is something we lack. Obviously Vassell, Nesmith, and Avdija would be great additions and I wouldn’t object to adding them.

Anyone else not on this list I have an issue with us taking ahead of these options if they are on the board.

Nice list. While one could nitpick at the order of the ranking, I agree with all the names on the list.

Maybe it’s because Terry will be in our draft range, but I’ve really come around on him. He’s not a flawless prospect (none will be at 15) but he may be the best pure shooter in the draft and he flashed some on-ball shot creation skills and good vision. Safe player that fits a need. I see something like a McCollum ceiling with a DJ Augustine floor.

WeltHam- dont overcomplicate things, at 15 just draft Terry, Lewis, Hampton or maybe Anthony/Maxey and call it a day

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Anyone see this tweet? If Terry is really 6”3 now he may be gone before we pick

This shows the work ethic and that he’s obviously not done growing. If he’s on the board at 15, and we don’t move up for Hayes, I’m definitely sold.

Shot creators that can operate with and without the ball are at a premium. I’d also be ok taking a flier on some “older” players in the second round that can knock down some shots.

[Bensational]

I'm struggling to pick a favourite between Kira, Terry and Nesmith. I'd rank Pokusevski amongst them as far as prospects that excite me, but my impatience steers me towards the more NBA ready first three names. But there is a late contender -

McDaniels. His knack for scoring and moving in that frame is something you can't teach. Someone called him bizarro Isaac in a previous post and it's spot on. He looks as exciting on offense as Isaac does on defense. But he knows how to contribute on that end, too. He's still a project, especially compared to the above 3, but most of McDaniels' flaws are areas Clifford is good at correcting, so it could work out well for him. I saw a comp of Brandon Ingram 'lite', which feels apt.

Anthony, Maxey, Ramsey and Saddiq Bey are all in the next tier I'd be choosing from.

The good thing about this draft is that even though I have my preferences, there's a pretty solid array of names I'll be content with if WeHam pick them.

The thing is, I don't see WeHam considering Lewis, Terry, Anthony or Maxey simply because I don't think they want to give Fultz the competition, and they have every intention of re-signing DJ. So I think WeHam's list is looking at Nesmith, Bey and McDaniels more than the others. That's my hunch anyway.