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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1521 » by pepe1991 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:13 am

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RookieStar wrote:Wow.. anyone watching this SA vs NO? Before gettong Franz , B.I was the one player I hope we got to becpme our next star/max player

im watching Herb Jones make an impact on the game without needing the ball. the 2 players i was hoping we would use our 2nd round pick last year was Ayo or Herb (obviously im a Bama fan and watched him). Herb was SEC DPOY and SEC POY. can guard almost any position, was a 5 yr college player, so it wasnt like we would have brought in an immature 19 yr old.


I'm watching Cj McCullum leading team in points, assits and plus minus while all it was required for trade was:
Josh Hart
body of Satoransky
protected 2022 pick
2023 second round pick
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1522 » by Skybox » Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:42 am

pepe1991 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Wow.. anyone watching this SA vs NO? Before gettong Franz , B.I was the one player I hope we got to becpme our next star/max player

im watching Herb Jones make an impact on the game without needing the ball. the 2 players i was hoping we would use our 2nd round pick last year was Ayo or Herb (obviously im a Bama fan and watched him). Herb was SEC DPOY and SEC POY. can guard almost any position, was a 5 yr college player, so it wasnt like we would have brought in an immature 19 yr old.


I'm watching Cj McCullum leading team in points, assits and plus minus while all it was required for trade was:
Josh Hart
body of Satoransky
protected 2022 pick
2023 second round pick


I'm happy to see CJ given his shot and leading a team. I've pushed hard to get him out of Dame's shadow and figured he'd be an All-Star if he had his own team to lead. Intelligent, articulate guy...I slowed my roll when we went young and he had a back injury but I'm a fan.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1523 » by Skybox » Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:42 am

pepe1991 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Wow.. anyone watching this SA vs NO? Before gettong Franz , B.I was the one player I hope we got to becpme our next star/max player

im watching Herb Jones make an impact on the game without needing the ball. the 2 players i was hoping we would use our 2nd round pick last year was Ayo or Herb (obviously im a Bama fan and watched him). Herb was SEC DPOY and SEC POY. can guard almost any position, was a 5 yr college player, so it wasnt like we would have brought in an immature 19 yr old.


I'm watching Cj McCullum leading team in points, assits and plus minus while all it was required for trade was:
Josh Hart
body of Satoransky
protected 2022 pick
2023 second round pick


I'm happy to see CJ given his shot and leading a team. I've pushed hard to get him out of Dame's shadow and figured he'd be an All-Star if he had his own team to lead. Intelligent, articulate guy...I slowed my roll when we went young and he had a back injury but I'm a fan.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1524 » by Skybox » Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:42 am

pepe1991 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Wow.. anyone watching this SA vs NO? Before gettong Franz , B.I was the one player I hope we got to becpme our next star/max player

im watching Herb Jones make an impact on the game without needing the ball. the 2 players i was hoping we would use our 2nd round pick last year was Ayo or Herb (obviously im a Bama fan and watched him). Herb was SEC DPOY and SEC POY. can guard almost any position, was a 5 yr college player, so it wasnt like we would have brought in an immature 19 yr old.


I'm watching Cj McCullum leading team in points, assits and plus minus while all it was required for trade was:
Josh Hart
body of Satoransky
protected 2022 pick
2023 second round pick


I'm happy to see CJ given his shot and leading a team. I've pushed hard to get him out of Dame's shadow and figured he'd be an All-Star if he had his own team to lead. Intelligent, articulate guy...I slowed my roll when we went young and he had a back injury but I'm a fan.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1525 » by Skybox » Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:45 am

DNP's for CHA...Bouknight, Kai Jones, and Thor. PJ Washington (the expendable one) had a big role and gave an efficient performance. I wonder if CHA makes some changes this offseason. Also wondering what ATL does if they continue to score so efficiently without John Collins - he might be the big trade name (again)...I don't mean for us, just an observation.
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Post#1526 » by RookieStar » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:48 pm

Skybox wrote:DNP's for CHA...Bouknight, Kai Jones, and Thor. PJ Washington (the expendable one) had a big role and gave an efficient performance. I wonder if CHA makes some changes this offseason. Also wondering what ATL does if they continue to score so efficiently without John Collins - he might be the big trade name (again)...I don't mean for us, just an observation.


Yeah.... CHA had the rookies/young guys a lot of us wanted for our team. Yet they couldn't even play. I hope we don't get into that situation wherein we have too many young guys needed to develop.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1527 » by tiderulz » Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:45 pm

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Skybox wrote:DNP's for CHA...Bouknight, Kai Jones, and Thor. PJ Washington (the expendable one) had a big role and gave an efficient performance. I wonder if CHA makes some changes this offseason. Also wondering what ATL does if they continue to score so efficiently without John Collins - he might be the big trade name (again)...I don't mean for us, just an observation.


Yeah.... CHA had the rookies/young guys a lot of us wanted for our team. Yet they couldn't even play. I hope we don't get into that situation wherein we have too many young guys needed to develop.

you never know. Draymond Green played 13 mpg as a rookie and started 1 game. Jimmy Butler played less than 9 mpg. you never know what you have until they start playing more
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1528 » by Magicfanatic82 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:03 am

Former NBA forward Mario Hezonja has no interest in returning to the league, Johnny Askounis of Eurohoops.net relays. Speaking to Russia’s Tatar-inform, Hezonja said, “I didn’t get the respect I deserved. Also, in my opinion, the NBA is more a show than the game itself.”

From hoopsrumors.com

This dude was trash. What a crap pick by Henny.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1529 » by RookieStar » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:11 am

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RookieStar wrote:
Skybox wrote:DNP's for CHA...Bouknight, Kai Jones, and Thor. PJ Washington (the expendable one) had a big role and gave an efficient performance. I wonder if CHA makes some changes this offseason. Also wondering what ATL does if they continue to score so efficiently without John Collins - he might be the big trade name (again)...I don't mean for us, just an observation.


Yeah.... CHA had the rookies/young guys a lot of us wanted for our team. Yet they couldn't even play. I hope we don't get into that situation wherein we have too many young guys needed to develop.

you never know. Draymond Green played 13 mpg as a rookie and started 1 game. Jimmy Butler played less than 9 mpg. you never know what you have until they start playing more


I agree... but who do we prioritize to develop? I mean its not out of the realm of possibility that say.. we get Ivey and thus priotize Suggs and Ivey ober Cole and RJ and thus when contract extension comes, those 2 decides to leave. And in their new team they become like Harden/ Dipo where they just blow up and become allstars.

Its just an example but my point is... too much rookies/younguns nèeding PT... not that good.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1530 » by richi_v25 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:39 am

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Former NBA forward Mario Hezonja has no interest in returning to the league, Johnny Askounis of Eurohoops.net relays. Speaking to Russia’s Tatar-inform, Hezonja said, “I didn’t get the respect I deserved. Also, in my opinion, the NBA is more a show than the game itself.”

From hoopsrumors.com

This dude was trash. What a crap pick by Henny.


He was straight trash but when we drafted him they made him out to be the first coming of Luka I'm not gonna lie I was excited for him.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1531 » by tiderulz » Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:58 am

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tiderulz wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Yeah.... CHA had the rookies/young guys a lot of us wanted for our team. Yet they couldn't even play. I hope we don't get into that situation wherein we have too many young guys needed to develop.

you never know. Draymond Green played 13 mpg as a rookie and started 1 game. Jimmy Butler played less than 9 mpg. you never know what you have until they start playing more


I agree... but who do we prioritize to develop? I mean its not out of the realm of possibility that say.. we get Ivey and thus priotize Suggs and Ivey ober Cole and RJ and thus when contract extension comes, those 2 decides to leave. And in their new team they become like Harden/ Dipo where they just blow up and become allstars.

Its just an example but my point is... too much rookies/younguns nèeding PT... not that good.

i just meant to say the Charlotte rookies might not be bad
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1532 » by RookieStar » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:54 am

tiderulz wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
tiderulz wrote:you never know. Draymond Green played 13 mpg as a rookie and started 1 game. Jimmy Butler played less than 9 mpg. you never know what you have until they start playing more


I agree... but who do we prioritize to develop? I mean its not out of the realm of possibility that say.. we get Ivey and thus priotize Suggs and Ivey ober Cole and RJ and thus when contract extension comes, those 2 decides to leave. And in their new team they become like Harden/ Dipo where they just blow up and become allstars.

Its just an example but my point is... too much rookies/younguns nèeding PT... not that good.

i just meant to say the Charlotte rookies might not be bad


Ah yeah of courae.. CHA's young guys have potential. Bouk and Thor comes to mind... also didnt they have Vernon Carey too? I thought he was a bigger betteer Andrew Nicholson, low post maestro.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1533 » by pepe1991 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:58 am

Skybox wrote:DNP's for CHA...Bouknight, Kai Jones, and Thor. PJ Washington (the expendable one) had a big role and gave an efficient performance. I wonder if CHA makes some changes this offseason. Also wondering what ATL does if they continue to score so efficiently without John Collins - he might be the big trade name (again)...I don't mean for us, just an observation.


There is just so many playres you can play, especially young players, without falling apart.
Hornets issue is Gordon Hayward. He is very good when he plays, but he hardly ever plays. And he eats $30M off thier cap.

Collins thing... I don't know. Whoever trades for him is stuck with him until summer of 2026.
Hawks, much ike Hornets need Deandre Hunter to be healthy. And he can't do that. And now they will need to dump massive salary on injury prone player because they don't have cap to do anything else.

Rebuild trap 101. Rookies stop being rookies faster than teams can objectivlly collect enough data who should stay and who should go.
So what teams do is resign them over a cap just to figure portion of them are overpayed for what they do. Collins is very good example of it. He blew up advanced stats and counting stats, but his on court value is actually lower , but only how they could keep him was by offering him 5 years max. So now they went from team fighting for ECF to a fringe playoff team in span of couple of months.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1534 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:44 pm

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Former NBA forward Mario Hezonja has no interest in returning to the league, Johnny Askounis of Eurohoops.net relays. Speaking to Russia’s Tatar-inform, Hezonja said, “I didn’t get the respect I deserved. Also, in my opinion, the NBA is more a show than the game itself.”

From hoopsrumors.com

This dude was trash. What a crap pick by Henny.


Dude has the worst ego to skill ratio of anybody. Bye!
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1535 » by drsd » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:04 pm

pepe1991 wrote:I'm watching Cj Damian Lillard leading team in points, assits and plus minus while all it was required for trade was:
Josh Hart
body of Satoransky
protected 2022 pick
2023 second round pick


... and Portland sucks without him. Listening to Lillard be jealous because McCollum is finding success, I suspect Portland will keep sucking.



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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1536 » by LDNMagic90 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:59 pm

Magicfanatic82 wrote:
Former NBA forward Mario Hezonja has no interest in returning to the league, Johnny Askounis of Eurohoops.net relays. Speaking to Russia’s Tatar-inform, Hezonja said, “I didn’t get the respect I deserved. Also, in my opinion, the NBA is more a show than the game itself.”

From hoopsrumors.com

This dude was trash. What a crap pick by Henny.


His ego got bruised within his first season in the NBA, it’s fine he’s not the first player as well. If you were told how amazing you are by people around you then the media hype you, you’re likely to grow an ego of some sort. Reality hit him hard and now he’s still mad about it. I was rooting for him to do well for us, he just didn’t pan out we move on.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1537 » by pepe1991 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:14 am

Phenomenal game by Clippers and Pelicans ,would be even better if teams were at full strenght but still very solid basketball non less, especially by Clippers who are without two best players whole year and still grinded out
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1538 » by Skybox » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:47 am

Man, having my head buried in these ORL threads, I've missed how awesome the NBA is right now....there are a LOT of good stories, teams, and players happening in these playoffs. I've been 100% grumpy old man/opposed to the play-in concept but it's made for some great "win or go home" drama. I love what's going on in NOLA, they drafted their superstar and he's not even playing and they might even get another really high pick (even better, it's all at the expense of LAL). CLE and CHA out early but building, MEM, awesome roster. BOS's resurgence. Trae is a straight up killer. BRK is a play-in team who barely made it, but (especially if Simmons contributes) could win ANY matchup, it's easy to forget the teams at the top like MIA, MIL, DEN, GSW...etc. Don't let ORL bum you out.
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Post#1539 » by Ralof » Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:56 pm

No LA teams in the playoff?

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