Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0

[bigdogdylan5]

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[Skybox]

Other than just saying the words financial flexibility, it hasn’t translated to team improvement. Welt rides assets and expiring deals until they’re dead and valueless.

He's been targeting financial flexibility, not using it. Acquiring young players and draft picks, while focusing on player development and financial flexibility are the focus during the first few stages of a rebuild. Do you really think WePark are going to just carry on with the same focus off-season after off-season?

that's the big question...IF he cashes it in to catapult this already promising situation- he's a heck of a GM.

IF he doesn't, he's:
A) under a clear cheapskate directive from ownership, or
B) A crappy GM who focuses on things other than winning

[PrimeThyme]

I can't fathom a world where Weltman throws a crazy stupid longterm number at Klay.

I don't hate the idea of Klay in the short-term, but I just think the only way a team like Orlando is getting Klay Thompson over a bigger market contender is if we give him a long-term deal and i'd personally have no interest in doing so.

[thelead]

I can't fathom a world where Weltman throws a crazy stupid longterm number at Klay.

I don't hate the idea of Klay in the short-term, but I just think the only way a team like Orlando is getting Klay Thompson over a bigger market contender is if we give him a long-term deal and i'd personally have no interest in doing so.

If we're going to go after an older vet, I'd rather throw crazy money at Jrue Holiday.

[eyriq]

Other than just saying the words financial flexibility, it hasn’t translated to team improvement. Welt rides assets and expiring deals until they’re dead and valueless.

He's been targeting financial flexibility, not using it. Acquiring young players and draft picks, while focusing on player development and financial flexibility are the focus during the first few stages of a rebuild. Do you really think WePark are going to just carry on with the same focus off-season after off-season?

that's the big question...IF he cashes it in to catapult this already promising situation- he's a heck of a GM.

IF he doesn't, he's:
A) under a clear cheapskate directive from ownership, or
B) A crappy GM who focuses on things other than winning

If you look at our players ranked by salary you get an idea of where the movement will be I think. These playoffs are their last chance.

[Skybox]

I can't fathom a world where Weltman throws a crazy stupid longterm number at Klay.

I don't hate the idea of Klay in the short-term, but I just think the only way a team like Orlando is getting Klay Thompson over a bigger market contender is if we give him a long-term deal and i'd personally have no interest in doing so.

If we're going to go after an older vet, I'd rather throw crazy money at Jrue Holiday.

I’d rather have Jrue…but I’d say he’s a lot less likely to move. Ultimately, I don’t think Klay will either.

[thelead]

I can't fathom a world where Weltman throws a crazy stupid longterm number at Klay.

I don't hate the idea of Klay in the short-term, but I just think the only way a team like Orlando is getting Klay Thompson over a bigger market contender is if we give him a long-term deal and i'd personally have no interest in doing so.

If we're going to go after an older vet, I'd rather throw crazy money at Jrue Holiday.

I’d rather have Jrue…but I’d say he’s a lot less likely to move. Ultimately, I don’t think Klay will either.

Will Boston be willing to pay him (plus the tax dollars) with Jaylen Brown's contract kicking in? That's really the question.

Giving him a 3 year ~$110 mil contract would be tough to swallow for them.

[MasterGMer]

If we're going to go after an older vet, I'd rather throw crazy money at Jrue Holiday.

I’d rather have Jrue…but I’d say he’s a lot less likely to move. Ultimately, I don’t think Klay will either.

Will Boston be willing to pay him (plus the tax dollars) with Jaylen Brown's contract kicking in? That's really the question.

Giving him a 3 year ~$110 mil contract would be tough to swallow for them.

But don't you guys think that Klay linked with Magic this early is a sign that mutual interest might exist?

[shadrock]

Miami signed Patty Mills. Big oppourtunity missed for us. Another smart move by the Heat.

lol.... we already have enough point guard and great chemistry at that. 35 yo patty mills shooting a career low, low in minutes and stats.... there is no priority with him. do i agree that he could have a good game ... few and far between... and might give some good minutes.... but i'll prefer cole and black play instead

Yeah... i mean we already have a geriatic ( in nba life ) no-defense Aussie ball handler in our team. No need to add another one.

You simply dont understand winning basketball if thats your take.

[shadrock]

Miami signed Patty Mills. Big oppourtunity missed for us. Another smart move by the Heat.

Really missing out on that 2ppg

You dont get it.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

If we go into next year without a PG upgrade I’m not sure I can handle it.

[Skybox]

I’d rather have Jrue…but I’d say he’s a lot less likely to move. Ultimately, I don’t think Klay will either.

Will Boston be willing to pay him (plus the tax dollars) with Jaylen Brown's contract kicking in? That's really the question.

Giving him a 3 year ~$110 mil contract would be tough to swallow for them.

But don't you guys think that Klay linked with Magic this early is a sign that mutual interest might exist?

define "linked"

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Will Boston be willing to pay him (plus the tax dollars) with Jaylen Brown's contract kicking in? That's really the question.

Giving him a 3 year ~$110 mil contract would be tough to swallow for them.

But don't you guys think that Klay linked with Magic this early is a sign that mutual interest might exist?

define "linked"

a team with cap space to scare GS into a better deal

[MasterGMer]

Will Boston be willing to pay him (plus the tax dollars) with Jaylen Brown's contract kicking in? That's really the question.

Giving him a 3 year ~$110 mil contract would be tough to swallow for them.

But don't you guys think that Klay linked with Magic this early is a sign that mutual interest might exist?

define "linked"

Reports and rumors. Not a credible source yet.

[tiderulz]

I’d rather have Jrue…but I’d say he’s a lot less likely to move. Ultimately, I don’t think Klay will either.

Will Boston be willing to pay him (plus the tax dollars) with Jaylen Brown's contract kicking in? That's really the question.

Giving him a 3 year ~$110 mil contract would be tough to swallow for them.

But don't you guys think that Klay linked with Magic this early is a sign that mutual interest might exist?

no, and we get linked to a lot of players, because we have a lot of cap space this summer

[thelead]

If we go into next year without a PG upgrade I’m not sure I can handle it.

Not only that, we need to find a way to dump Cole too. He is not dependable.

[AaronB]

You keep saying obvious to most casual observers? Can you go put a poll up or something to prove your point?

Let’s dissect this a bit. So if Mo has this great effort that Franz needs. Why are his defensive metrics way worse than Franz despite playing against primarily second units? Why is his defensive rebounding percentage the worst of all our centers? Hell he is only 2.5% better than Franz and Franz is out at the perimeter the majority of the time. Do you think Mo gives more effort because has more and one and screams like an idiot? Oh my gosh he must care so much. Sorry don’t have a stat for that. His effort is so great that his defensive win shares is second to last of the players that get consistent minutes just behind the 36 year old that the team calls grandpa. I would argue outside of Suggs, Franz gives the most effort on guarding his man on the perimeter on defense. Isaac is better but he is more gifted.

So let’s turn to the offense. You are saying he doesn’t give enough consistent effort on offense. Ok then why is he ahead of some teams number one options in usage like Mikal Bridges, Scottie Barnes, Tyrese Halliburton in usage. If he wasn’t giving consistent effort wouldn’t you expect that to be much lower?

Maybe we just have different definitions of effort. When you say he takes games off or lacks consistent effort that to me signals he doesn’t want to do the work and he is lazy. Maybe for you that means he lacks aggression. I think those are two extremely different things.

I refuse to have a long conversation with someone who can only see what they write and make no effort to understand what the other person is saying. CYa.

Too late…wrong thread anyway.

Yep, obvious to the most casual observer.

[MasterGMer]

If we go into next year without a PG upgrade I’m not sure I can handle it.

Not only that, we need to find a way to dump Cole too. He is not dependable.

Are you serious? Except some open misses, Cole was the sole reason we were in the game

[thelead]

If we go into next year without a PG upgrade I’m not sure I can handle it.

Not only that, we need to find a way to dump Cole too. He is not dependable.

Are you serious? Except some open misses, Cole was the sole reason we were in the game

53.9% TS% for the season. I don't care about a shot here or there.

[MasterGMer]

Not only that, we need to find a way to dump Cole too. He is not dependable.

Are you serious? Except some open misses, Cole was the sole reason we were in the game

53.9% TS% for the season. I don't care about a shot here or there.

He was having some personal problems and I think that impacted his performance early second half of the season