Around the League: 2024-25 Season

RookieStar · Post #1561 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:20 am

MIL vs IND has almost 70pts each at half time.

Lol what playoff defense?

Optimus_Steel · Post #1562 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:21 am

MEM-OKC series is such a letdown, bore fest.

basketballRob · Post #1563 » by **basketballRob** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:29 am

RookieStar wrote:MIL vs IND has almost 70pts each at half time.

Lol what playoff defense?

Haliburton is doing a lot of talking to Dame.

Sent from my SM-G781U using RealGM Forums mobile app

Post #1564 » by **eyriq** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:34 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:MEM-OKC series is such a letdown, bore fest.

Indiana is in control vs Milwaukee as well.

RookieStar · Post #1565 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:27 am

eyriq wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:MEM-OKC series is such a letdown, bore fest.
Indiana is in control vs Milwaukee as well.

Seems its only NY and DET thats living up to its billing

Optimus_Steel · Post #1566 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:31 am

If Mem wants to make changes we need to be calling about Desmond Bane.

CZ Eddie · Post #1567 » by **CZ Eddie** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:48 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:If Mem wants to make changes we need to be calling about Desmond Bane.

That guy has weird looking arms.

drsd · Post #1568 » by **drsd** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 5:04 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:MEM-OKC series is such a letdown, bore fest.

Games 2: OKC won the TO battle -7 and the rebounding battle +13 to take 20 extra possessions over the Griz

Doing the little things at the elite level is a sign of an elite team. OKC could be in year-1 of a five-year dynasty.

pepe1991 · Post #1569 » by **pepe1991** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 5:57 am

drsd wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:MEM-OKC series is such a letdown, bore fest.

Games 2: OKC won the TO battle -7 and the rebounding battle +13 to take 20 extra possessions over the Griz

Doing the little things at the elite level is a sign of an elite team. OKC could be in year-1 of a five-year dynasty.

They have like 10 guys that would be starters on majority of other teams, 3 all star / all nba players.

SGA shoots what? 12-42 for a series and they have like +70 in plus minus

pepe1991 · Post #1570 » by **pepe1991** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:47 am

btw wtf is wrong with AG's face, guy looks like he works as human punching bag for Ushik & Fury

YosemiteSam · Post #1571 » by **YosemiteSam** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:52 am

drsd wrote: OKC could be in year-1 of a five-year dynasty.

At some point in a year or two aren’t they going to run into salary issues? And even with their success they are still one of if not the smallest market in the NBA. If we are talking about how the Magic are running out of cap space, I do not see how OKC can keep this team together once people want to get paid

three3d · Post #1572 » by **three3d** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:05 pm

YosemiteSam wrote:
drsd wrote: OKC could be in year-1 of a five-year dynasty.

At some point in a year or two aren’t they going to run into salary issues? And even with their success they are still one of if not the smallest market in the NBA. If we are talking about how the Magic are running out of cap space, I do not see how OKC can keep this team together once people want to get paid

They will be the perfect example to just how flawed the NBA Salary Cap and apron system is. They are loaded with young talent and have a lot of upcoming first round picks. At some point they aren’t going to be able to afford to pay all these young guys they are drafting and will have to trade them away.

The team’s that draft these kids and actually do a good job scouting and drafting like OKC should not have to pay extra prices because they do their job so well.

basketballRob · Post #1573 » by **basketballRob** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:09 pm

three3d wrote:
YosemiteSam wrote:
drsd wrote: OKC could be in year-1 of a five-year dynasty.

At some point in a year or two aren’t they going to run into salary issues? And even with their success they are still one of if not the smallest market in the NBA. If we are talking about how the Magic are running out of cap space, I do not see how OKC can keep this team together once people want to get paid

They will be the perfect example to just how flawed the NBA Salary Cap and apron system is. They are loaded with young talent and have a lot of upcoming first round picks. At some point they aren’t going to be able to afford to pay all these young guys they are drafting and will have to trade them away.

The team’s that draft these kids and actually do a good job scouting and drafting like OKC should not have to pay extra prices because they do their job so well.

They'll be able to maintain for a long time because they keep trading good players who don't fit the team and getting more future picks. Chet and Jalen Williams are good but may not ask for the max.

Sent from my SM-G998U1 using RealGM mobile app

pepe1991 · Post #1574 » by **pepe1991** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:38 pm

Ultimate goal is to win championship(s) , not build sustainable financial team that makes owner billions of dollars ( it still makes regardless of salary costs) . Sports aren't firms, ultimate goal is to win, not financial gain & sustainability.

It's great when you can do both, but often it's not possible. Celtics cashed in everything and won 2024 title.
OKC went balls deep to win within 2 years.

p0peye · Post #1575 » by **p0peye** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:59 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Ultimate goal is to win championship(s) , not build sustainable financial team that makes owner billions of dollars ( it still makes regardless of salary costs) . Sports aren't firms, ultimate goal is to win, not financial gain & sustainability.

That's not really true in NBA. Not everyone wants to win, as Draymond Green and Baron Davis noted in recent podcast episode. That includes team ownership, management, coaches and even players. It's in stark contrast with how sport teams are driven in Europe, but gives meaning to 'player fandom' phenomenon.

pepe1991 · Post #1576 » by **pepe1991** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:42 pm

p0peye wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Ultimate goal is to win championship(s) , not build sustainable financial team that makes owner billions of dollars ( it still makes regardless of salary costs) . Sports aren't firms, ultimate goal is to win, not financial gain & sustainability.

That's not really true in NBA. Not everyone wants to win, as Draymond Green and Baron Davis noted in recent podcast episode. That includes team ownership, management, coaches and even players. It's in stark contrast with how sport teams are driven in Europe, but gives meaning to 'player fandom' phenomenon.

If that is true ( probably is in some cases) than nba is not a league nor basketball is sport. It's just sport's entertaiment like wwe and not worth watching.

three3d · Post #1577 » by **three3d** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:15 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Ultimate goal is to win championship(s) , not build sustainable financial team that makes owner billions of dollars ( it still makes regardless of salary costs) . Sports aren't firms, ultimate goal is to win, not financial gain & sustainability.

It's great when you can do both, but often it's not possible. Celtics cashed in everything and won 2024 title.
OKC went balls deep to win within 2 years.

Sounds like you’re talking about the DeVos Family when you describe owners that build a sustainable financial team that makes owners billions of dollars VS owners that want to win a Championship.

three3d · Post #1578 » by **three3d** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:22 pm

basketballRob wrote:
three3d wrote:
YosemiteSam wrote:
At some point in a year or two aren’t they going to run into salary issues? And even with their success they are still one of if not the smallest market in the NBA. If we are talking about how the Magic are running out of cap space, I do not see how OKC can keep this team together once people want to get paid

They will be the perfect example to just how flawed the NBA Salary Cap and apron system is. They are loaded with young talent and have a lot of upcoming first round picks. At some point they aren’t going to be able to afford to pay all these young guys they are drafting and will have to trade them away.

The team’s that draft these kids and actually do a good job scouting and drafting like OKC should not have to pay extra prices because they do their job so well.
They'll be able to maintain for a long time because they keep trading good players who don't fit the team and getting more future picks. Chet and Jalen Williams are good but may not ask for the max.

Sent from my SM-G998U1 using RealGM mobile app

I believe at some point it will catch up to them. Honestly they draft well and have a load of picks. Don’t forget last season they got a possible steal in Nikola Topic just because he was injured, he was a projected top 5 pick prior to the injury. I get projections and expectations don’t always live up to the hype but at some point they will have to be paying those draft picks salaries they earn. You can only play so many players, you can have but only so many young talented guys that will get a chance to show their worth

p0peye · Post #1579 » by **p0peye** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:13 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
p0peye wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Ultimate goal is to win championship(s) , not build sustainable financial team that makes owner billions of dollars ( it still makes regardless of salary costs) . Sports aren't firms, ultimate goal is to win, not financial gain & sustainability.

That's not really true in NBA. Not everyone wants to win, as Draymond Green and Baron Davis noted in recent podcast episode. That includes team ownership, management, coaches and even players. It's in stark contrast with how sport teams are driven in Europe, but gives meaning to 'player fandom' phenomenon.

If that is true ( probably is in some cases) than nba is not a league nor basketball is sport. It's just sport's entertaiment like wwe and not worth watching.

I think it is true. You always have players maximizing money and not winning (you might argue that it is logical), but same can be said for ownership as well - league is full of teams without any aspirations for winning but enjoying profit-sharing and income from additional games playoffs bring. That same owners use that as KPI driving management decisions. There are plenty of fans supporting their player to the detriment of the team success (rooting for said player to accumulate stats as indicator of success and hating players that 'take away' shots and possessions from said player). Coaches usually push for wins, IMHO.

I am not saying nobody plays to win - that is obviously not the case. But, playing to win is not a rule either. NBA is business first and foremost.

Skybox · Post #1580 » by **Skybox** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:21 pm

basketballRob wrote:
The team’s that draft these kids and actually do a good job scouting and drafting like OKC should not have to pay extra prices because they do their job so well.

They'll be able to maintain for a long time because they keep trading good players who don't fit the team and getting more future picks. Chet and Jalen Williams are good but may not ask for the max.

Sent from my SM-G998U1 using RealGM mobile app[/quote]

THIS is the key to the whole GM thing...not clinging to decent players, if fit or finances, etc make it detrimental for the TEAM. The TEAM is everything and players can be cycled around your stars to keep the train rolling. Holding on too long for players that haven't clicked yet or have demonstrated a different ceiling than the team needs, etc.

It's okay to move good assets for other good assets or even just to lose good things to protect great things. Being afraid to lose a mediocre pick or a gaggle of mediocre prospects when you have a more than mediocre hole in your lineup is bush league and cowardly.