Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition)

Nemesis21 · Post #161 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu May 31, 2012 6:54 pm

D12J14 wrote:I could get down with JSmoove, Monta and D12.

OMPunk · Post #162 » by **OMPunk** » Thu May 31, 2012 6:57 pm

Skin wrote:
D12J14 wrote:I could get down with JSmoove, Monta and D12.

We don't even have a GM. Anyone who believes Rudolph is a fool.

Well it's all speculation, which can be commented on.....kinda like this thread?

Nyce_1 · Post #163 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu May 31, 2012 6:59 pm

D12VCMagic wrote:We don't have a GM, yet we are working on J-Smoove and Monta? lol Gtfo

OMPunk · Post #164 » by **OMPunk** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:00 pm

D12VCMagic wrote:We don't have a GM, yet we are working on J-Smoove and Monta? lol Gtfo

Hey don't hate on these guys....they're getting stuff done!

rcklsscognition · Post #165 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:01 pm

ZeusIsLoose wrote:@JRudolphSports

"If I had to guess about the "BIG" thing the Magic have planned I'd say its Josh Smith with the promise of adding Monta in the future."

FU Rudolph, these rumors are crazy.

Darth Magic · Post #166 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:05 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
ZeusIsLoose wrote:@JRudolphSports

"If I had to guess about the "BIG" thing the Magic have planned I'd say its Josh Smith with the promise of adding Monta in the future."

FU Rudolph, these rumors are crazy.

Rumors? The dude said GUESS.

D12VCMagic · Post #167 » by **D12VCMagic** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:36 pm

Chris Broussard says the Sixers are looking to move Iggy.

Don't see what we could really offer though. I think he ends up with the Lakers.

CourtsideTV · Post #168 » by **CourtsideTV** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:41 pm

send ryan anderson and the 19th pick

dwight
davis
iggy
jj
meer

then trade jrich+hedo+jameer for jsmoove

dwight
davis
smoove
iggy/jj
ish

then sign nash in free agency for vet min

dwight
davis
smoove
iggy
nash

AhaAha · Post #169 » by **AhaAha** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:42 pm

How about SaT Anderson for Scola +14

Thein either try to move up in the draft with 19+14 or trade for Monta with the picks and JJ+Filler

BadMofoPimp · Post #170 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:46 pm

D12VCMagic wrote:We don't have a GM, yet we are working on J-Smoove and Monta? lol Gtfo

We have Foyle who has been working with teams and players via trade negotiations for a while now already. Thus, this could have been something that has been in discussion for almost a year now.

DWIGHT is not going anywhere!!!

trebone · Post #171 » by **trebone** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:55 pm

I dont see us as having the pieces to get JSmith, Iggy would be a pipe dream as other teams can offer more as well, maybe an outside chance for Iggy is if we send JJ/S&T Anderson/1st
That allows them to start JJ at the 2 and move Turner back to the 3 also getting them a decent 4 in anderson and our 1st

arsenal6106 · Post #172 » by **arsenal6106** » Thu May 31, 2012 7:58 pm

OrlandO wrote:
ZeusIsLoose wrote:@JRudolphSports

"If I had to guess about the "BIG" thing the Magic have planned I'd say its Josh Smith with the promise of adding Monta in the future."

What is this "big" thing I keep seeing mentioned without any links... I hear it's from OS, but where's the post?

http://www.espnflorida.com/today-on-primetime-5-30-12/

Here is the radio interview with BS.

Post #173 » by **Def Swami** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:02 pm

The Nets losing out on the lottery last night is bigger than people think. I think that's a tipping point for D-Will. There's absolutely no reason for D-Will to stay in Brooklyn. They'll have maybe 3 guys on the books, no Kris Humphries, possibly no Lopez, and no Wallace. Given that those guys even come back, the Nets will never make the playoffs with that roster. I don't see any scenario where D-Will stays in Brooklyn. He may not contend, but he'll surely make the playoffs in Dallas in the short term and their management has proven that they know how to build around a great player, unlike the Nets. With that said, Dwight to Brooklyn is null as far as I can see. No way we trade Dwight there for Lopez (who we'd have to sign to a long term deal) and Brooks. And I don't see D-Will staying.

So then if Dwight was still unwilling to commit, we'd trade him to HOU or WAS where he'd go thru a losing season next year, miss the playoffs, and that team would have his bird rights. That's a lot to give up IMO. If he just stays here, he'll definitely make the playoffs, possibly contend, and the team with his bird rights would actually have a decent future. For him to essentially approve a trade to a bum team by not extending would mean he must really hate ORL and the franchise and the people running it, and I don't think that is the case. I think his heart is still in ORL and good hires in the front office and the coach will help convince Dwight to stay. I think our chances for keeping Dwight increased last night. I think his future in ORL is much brighter than it would be in Brooklyn. We just need some competence in the front office.

arsenal6106 · Post #174 » by **arsenal6106** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:02 pm

Didn't Otis travel to Sacramento to interview SVG?

OrlandO · Post #175 » by **OrlandO** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:05 pm

arsenal6106 wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
ZeusIsLoose wrote:@JRudolphSports

"If I had to guess about the "BIG" thing the Magic have planned I'd say its Josh Smith with the promise of adding Monta in the future."

What is this "big" thing I keep seeing mentioned without any links... I hear it's from OS, but where's the post?

http://www.espnflorida.com/today-on-primetime-5-30-12/

Here is the radio interview with BS.

Thanks... very vague, not sure I understand why BS can't talk about it... it's his job to talk about it, especially if it's something hot that hasn't been reported anywhere else. Sounds like something a fan would say in hopes that no other teams try and swoop in...

arsenal6106 · Post #176 » by **arsenal6106** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:10 pm

arsenal6106 wrote:Didn't Otis travel to Sacramento to interview SVG?

lol

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketba ... ring_N.htm

Van Gundy accepted the deal, in of all places, a Sacramento Kinko's, where he faxed back his signed contract to the Magic in Orlando.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #177 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:12 pm

CourtsideTV wrote:send ryan anderson and the 19th pick

dwight
davis
iggy
jj
meer

then trade jrich+hedo+jameer for jsmoove

dwight
davis
smoove
iggy/jj
ish

then sign nash in free agency for vet min

dwight
davis
smoove
iggy
nash

then you wake up

Nyce_1 · Post #178 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:13 pm

trust me, if anything he knew was accurate, he'd be the first one to write about it and push it out as breaking news. he knows nothing.

Post #179 » by **Def Swami** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:20 pm

I think J-Smoove is a pipe dream. But I do think that we could have a trade that entices them and makes them better.

ATL Receives: JJ/BBD or Ryan/Turk/19th pick
ORL Receives: Josh Smith/Marvin Williams

JJ/BBD/19th alone could get Smoove, but I think to compete with other offers, we'd have to take back one of ATL's bad contracts. We could take back Marvin Williams and send them a "sort of" expiring deal in Turkoglu. It saves them money long term, they get JJ and Turk who both expire, and youth in a 19th pick. I actually think it makes them a better, more balanced team too.

Teague
JJ
Joe
Davis
Horford

It's possible we may need a third team too. I always like to look at Utah since they have a surplus of bigs.

UTH Receives: JJ/Ryan/19th pick
ATL Receives: Al Jefferson/J-Rich
ORL Receives: Smith/Williams

ATL runs
Teague
J-Rich
Joe
Horford
Jefferson

There was also another deal I proposed awhile ago, a far-fetched idea, but one I think ATL would find hard to refuse if they wanted to just start over.

ATL Receives: JJ/BBD/J-Rich/Turkoglu/19th pick
ORL Receives: Joe Johnson/Josh Smith

ATL gets out of Johnson's albatross deal, shed money with expiring deals in JJ and Turk, and get decent trade assets in J-Rich and BBD. Not a big fan of the deal, but we'd have a fun team to watch if we signed Nash

Nash
Joe
Smoove
Ryan
Dwight

Darth Magic · Post #180 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu May 31, 2012 8:40 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
ATL gets out of Johnson's albatross deal, shed money with expiring deals in JJ and Turk, and get decent trade assets in J-Rich and BBD. Not a big fan of the deal, but we'd have a fun team to watch if we signed Nash

Nash
Joe
Smoove
Ryan
Dwight

Would you do that? Would you take on Johnson's contract to get Smoove, or would it be wiser to wait it out and sign him next summer? I've been back and forth on this.