Do you think Aaron Gordon will emerge as a breakout star this year?

[NickAnderson]

Gordon to me is an athletic version of Draymond. Super versatile who thrives with alpha dog scorer or scorers beside them. If Draymond was the go-to guy on a team in the NBA he wouldn't even sniff an All-Star game. But his talents are fully exposed and maximized on Golden State. If we could even just get 1 go-to scorer I think AG would take off. I don't see him as the man, I hope I am wrong because I love me some AG and we need some excitement. He does everything Draymond can do expect has more athleticism. Draymond is a bit more consistent on his shot, but improved shooting usually comes with age and decreased athleticism (see KIdd, Carter etc). I hope Isaac or Gordon or a trade bring some excitement because these last few years have been dull as hell to watch. As long as I've watched the Magic, even when we sucked we at least were fun to watch (McGrady, heart and hustle etc)

AG and Draymonds game are nothing a like. Like not at all.


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[PrimeThyme]

AG will be an All-Star this year.

[pepe1991]

AG will be an All-Star this year.

And Payton will be at 3 point shooting contest , with Biyombo winning skill challenge.

[VFX]

AG will be an All-Star this year.

I like your optimism.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Gordon to me is an athletic version of Draymond. Super versatile who thrives with alpha dog scorer or scorers beside them. If Draymond was the go-to guy on a team in the NBA he wouldn't even sniff an All-Star game. But his talents are fully exposed and maximized on Golden State. If we could even just get 1 go-to scorer I think AG would take off. I don't see him as the man, I hope I am wrong because I love me some AG and we need some excitement. He does everything Draymond can do expect has more athleticism. Draymond is a bit more consistent on his shot, but improved shooting usually comes with age and decreased athleticism (see KIdd, Carter etc). I hope Isaac or Gordon or a trade bring some excitement because these last few years have been dull as hell to watch. As long as I've watched the Magic, even when we sucked we at least were fun to watch (McGrady, heart and hustle etc)

AG and Draymonds game are nothing a like. Like not at all.


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Their games are different but they play similar roles.

[PennytoShaq]

Negative Nancies can make snide comments and Over positives can project AG to be an all-star, but that is meaningless. All that matters is that this year, AG will either make a big leap and show his potential as a top 5 pick or most likely moved in a S&T.

I believe in AG because why not? I am a Magic fan and he has shown flashes where he can take over games. I like his fit in a lineup with more shooters in Ross and Evan around him, and I like the idea of him, Simmons and Isaac out there playing tough defense and making athletic plays on the other end.

Personally, I would rather root for players on the team I like rather than against them, but that's just me.

[NickAnderson]

Gordon to me is an athletic version of Draymond. Super versatile who thrives with alpha dog scorer or scorers beside them. If Draymond was the go-to guy on a team in the NBA he wouldn't even sniff an All-Star game. But his talents are fully exposed and maximized on Golden State. If we could even just get 1 go-to scorer I think AG would take off. I don't see him as the man, I hope I am wrong because I love me some AG and we need some excitement. He does everything Draymond can do expect has more athleticism. Draymond is a bit more consistent on his shot, but improved shooting usually comes with age and decreased athleticism (see KIdd, Carter etc). I hope Isaac or Gordon or a trade bring some excitement because these last few years have been dull as hell to watch. As long as I've watched the Magic, even when we sucked we at least were fun to watch (McGrady, heart and hustle etc)

AG and Draymonds game are nothing a like. Like not at all.


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Their games are different but they play similar roles.

Well yeah of course. If you're not a star. You're either a solid starter/above average role player or bench player so sure they're both role players.


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[Patrick1978]

Negative Nancies can make snide comments and Over positives can project AG to be an all-star, but that is meaningless. All that matters is that this year, AG will either make a big leap and show his potential as a top 5 pick or most likely moved in a S&T.

I believe in AG because why not? I am a Magic fan and he has shown flashes where he can take over games. I like his fit in a lineup with more shooters in Ross and Evan around him, and I like the idea of him, Simmons and Isaac out there playing tough defense and making athletic plays on the other end.

Personally, I would rather root for players on the team I like rather than against them, but that's just me.

I really like your post and it was a great pleasure to read something positive on this board because majority here lead by the great pepe only bash the team.
I agree totally with you

[pepe1991]

Negative Nancies can make snide comments and Over positives can project AG to be an all-star, but that is meaningless. All that matters is that this year, AG will either make a big leap and show his potential as a top 5 pick or most likely moved in a S&T.

I believe in AG because why not? I am a Magic fan and he has shown flashes where he can take over games. I like his fit in a lineup with more shooters in Ross and Evan around him, and I like the idea of him, Simmons and Isaac out there playing tough defense and making athletic plays on the other end.

Personally, I would rather root for players on the team I like rather than against them, but that's just me.

I really like your post and it was a great pleasure to read something positive on this board because majority here lead by the great pepe only bash the team.
I agree totally with you

So, i'm bashing him by comparing him to Thad Young, career starter ? Maybe you guys just love to live in dream land where 9,7 ppg player over 3 years will translate into Shawn Kemp in 4th because he "puts in work" ?

Sorry but his "breakout end of season " has him shooting 14 FGA on 27,7% for 3 on over 3 three point attemps per game. Not to even mentioned his poor rebounding at PF, 1,5 apg on 31 min at PF ( yet you guys compare him to Green ? ) , lack of shotblocking skills and probably the worst how inconsistent he is.

Let's just take a look at some games during last two months where nobody noticed he was out there:
Knicks . 10 points ( 3-12 FG), 5 fouls, 5 rebounds, 0 steals , 0 blocks, 0 assists
Warriors ( 2-7 ) , 6 points, 3 rebounds 1 assists,0 steals ,0 blocks
Raptors 16 points ( 7-13 ) , 1 rebound ? What a hell? PF during 36 min with 1 rebound?
Cavs,14 points ,12 FGA, 5rebounds everything else zero

Only playoff team that he scored over 17 points in that period were Celtics, 32, all other big games were against bottom feeders like Nets, Pistons and Hornets.
So when we take it all in considiration, we get player that can get hot, but in lot of games he will just trow lot of bad FGA, struggle to contribute in any other way on offense, play solid ( but not great ) one on one defense, not protect a rim, rebound at medicore rate and that's about it . " But he is younger than some rookies" . Yea. So is Hezonja, that doesn't make him future allstar, it just means he is young. If you look at somebody like Porzingis, it took him grand total of two weeks to transform into 14 ppg player - IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON. Yet, here you are, bashing me that i don't belive that somebody who never averaged over 13ppg over 3 years can become star player ?

[yoyojw17]

Negative Nancies can make snide comments and Over positives can project AG to be an all-star, but that is meaningless. All that matters is that this year, AG will either make a big leap and show his potential as a top 5 pick or most likely moved in a S&T.

I believe in AG because why not? I am a Magic fan and he has shown flashes where he can take over games. I like his fit in a lineup with more shooters in Ross and Evan around him, and I like the idea of him, Simmons and Isaac out there playing tough defense and making athletic plays on the other end.

Personally, I would rather root for players on the team I like rather than against them, but that's just me.

THIS.... on all levels! You're allowed to have your disappointment and doubts... don't get me wrong. But at the level that most people talk about our own players.... it's like they prefer to over look any glimpses or blatant views of positives in order to devalue our players. Makes it really hard to gauge what being a fan is these days.

[MagicMadness]

I'm not really seeing people root against Gordon. Instead, I'm seeing people give rational reasons as to why they think he probably won't become the next T-Mac.

I'm willing to bet 99% of Magic fans on this board would love to see any of our players become breakout stars.

[PennytoShaq]

I'm not really seeing people root against Gordon. Instead, I'm seeing people give rational reasons as to why they think he probably won't become the next T-Mac.

I'm willing to bet 99% of Magic fans on this board would love to see any of our players become breakout stars.

Yes, but my point was that both sides are extreme. What we need from Gordon is a guy who can score 18 a game and be a team leader and two way player.

IMO if you are looking for a potential star who could develop an unblockable 3 point shot and be a beast, that is Isaac. Potentially.

AG needs to be that guy who people hate to be guarded by and someone who takes over games when the defense is cheating on the shooters.

I believe he can do those things for us. And if he can not, he will be moved.

[PennytoShaq]

Yet, here you are, bashing me that i don't belive that somebody who never averaged over 13ppg over 3 years can become star player ?

I think people "bash" you because your posts are extremely hardheaded, long winded and consistently negative. That can get old to read.

[Optimus_Steel]

AG is a role player at best and I cant see him here long term with the drafting of Issac. I see us resign him then trade him not long after.


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[Patrick1978]

I know that with this i go against the opinion of the most people on this board but imo ag and isaac will fit very well together.looking forward to see gordon,isaac and simmons on the court together.
Actually i would sometimes like to see a lineup of simmons,fournier,hezonja,gordon,isaac

[Jiwol]

Yet, here you are, bashing me that i don't belive that somebody who never averaged over 13ppg over 3 years can become star player ?

I think people "bash" you because your posts are extremely hardheaded, long winded and consistently negative. That can get old to read.

Not hardheaded and long winded, just very thoroughly explained. I value Pepe's realism amidst some delusional posters fairytales. And most of the time it's better to expect little and be surprised, than otherwise.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Yet, here you are, bashing me that i don't belive that somebody who never averaged over 13ppg over 3 years can become star player ?

I think people "bash" you because your posts are extremely hardheaded, long winded and consistently negative. That can get old to read.

It's a public forum and people have different feelings, opinions, and perspectives. If their posts are within the confines of the rules then I have no problem with it.
There's a foe list if certain people's style of posting gets old. I've used it quite often

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[PennytoShaq]

Yet, here you are, bashing me that i don't belive that somebody who never averaged over 13ppg over 3 years can become star player ?

I think people "bash" you because your posts are extremely hardheaded, long winded and consistently negative. That can get old to read.

Not hardheaded and long winded, just very thoroughly explained. I value Pepe's realism amidst some delusional posters fairytales. And most of the time it's better to expect little and be surprised, than otherwise.

I agree, but Pepe is quite known for posting at OPP and constantly complaining that Mario never got minutes. If you saw the posts, you would know that he is guilty of the exact same delusion that you are referencing here. So no one is perfect, and no one knows it all. Additionally, posting stats that fit a narrative and then adding a frustration emoji at the end is not my definition of thoroughly explained.

That being said, I basically agree and get what you are saying, especially about the last part. I personally am not expecting more than 35-38 wins, but I could see how this could finally start going in a good direction due to the team finally establishing an identity of hard work and hustle again.

[MagicFan101]

The correct answer is NO.

No, not this year or any other year in his career.

AG will be a productive started in the league and earn a lot of money. But he doesn't posses enough true basketball skill to be a star and hasn't shown a sharp enough improvement curve to justify anyone believing he will develop this before his athletic gifts begin failing him.

[pepe1991]

I think people "bash" you because your posts are extremely hardheaded, long winded and consistently negative. That can get old to read.

Not hardheaded and long winded, just very thoroughly explained. I value Pepe's realism amidst some delusional posters fairytales. And most of the time it's better to expect little and be surprised, than otherwise.

I agree, but Pepe is quite known for posting at OPP and constantly complaining that Mario never got minutes. If you saw the posts, you would know that he is guilty of the exact same delusion that you are referencing here. So no one is perfect, and no one knows it all. Additionally, posting stats that fit a narrative and then adding a frustration emoji at the end is not my definition of thoroughly explained.

That being said, I basically agree and get what you are saying, especially about the last part. I personally am not expecting more than 35-38 wins, but I could see how this could finally start going in a good direction due to the team finally establishing an identity of hard work and hustle again.

I admit i was wrong about Mario, at some point you simply have to figure out that he lacks of talent for nba , or at least bigger min in nba. My OPP posts are always backed up by stats and only player i ever hated for Magic last 3 years was Jeff Green