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Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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What kind of player do you think we need most?

Point Guard
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13%
Scoring Guard
38
62%
Great Shooter
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18%
3&D Wing
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7%
 
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Post#161 » by Magic#1 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:02 pm

If Hampton is there, he would be enticing. He's the type of prospect who could either rise or fall, but if some team in the lottery loves him, he probably won't be there. Maledon would also be a nice potential pickup even if we keep DJ.
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Post#163 » by Skin » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:18 pm


My guy is also out for the season.

Based on our draft slot I'm hoping for Nesmith. Think if he was healthy he would be beyond our reach. Could be a blessing for us.
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Post#164 » by cedric76 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:32 pm

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My guy is also out for the season.

Based on our draft slot I'm hoping for Nesmith. Think if he was healthy he would be beyond our reach. Could be a blessing for us.


Weham can afford to draft another injured player like he did with chuma

Chuma will be our rookie next season
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Post#165 » by Skin » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:08 pm

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My guy is also out for the season.

Based on our draft slot I'm hoping for Nesmith. Think if he was healthy he would be beyond our reach. Could be a blessing for us.


Weham can afford to draft another injured player like he did with chuma

Chuma will be our rookie next season

I don't know if fans want to give them that much leeway but I don't think ownership cares at this point. Results don't seem to be a priority here. As long as they are spending and it looks like they are doing their part as far as providing financial support, I don't think they care one bit about winning if they can point the blame elsewhere.
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Post#166 » by MoMM » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:59 pm

drsd wrote:NBAdraft now has Orlando with Josh Green. Makes sense as:
Strengths: Elite defender
Weaknesses: Needs to become a more consistent jump shooter


What a joke!


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Usually at this time they dont pay attention to the team that is drafting, you just need to analyse the rankings of the players, but the teams that are supposed to draft those players they will care only after the lottery.
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Post#167 » by The Effect » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:19 pm

What do you guys think of Jahmius Ramsey?

I know we wont draft him cause he doesnt have crazy length for the position, but he seems to be exactly what we are missing (instant offense and energy!)
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Post#168 » by Skin » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:35 pm

The Effect wrote:What do you guys think of Jahmius Ramsey?

I know we wont draft him cause he doesnt have crazy length for the position, but he seems to be exactly what we are missing (instant offense and energy!)

Big fan of his.
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Post#169 » by zaymon » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:42 pm

The Effect wrote:What do you guys think of Jahmius Ramsey?

I know we wont draft him cause he doesnt have crazy length for the position, but he seems to be exactly what we are missing (instant offense and energy!)

Isnt he a questionable decision maker and bad passer ? I would like to avoid these.
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Post#170 » by cedric76 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:03 pm

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Post#171 » by Knightro » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:23 pm

Killian Hayes had 20 points, 10 assists yesterday. The best game of his season to date.

ESPN currently has him 14th on their big board, so he's in that range of possibilities for the Magic at 15.
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Post#172 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:56 pm

would 1000% be ok with trading as far back as possible and get Nesmith.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#173 » by Knightro » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:15 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:would 1000% be ok with trading as far back as possible and get Nesmith.


The Magic should just take him at 15 if they like him that much IMO.

The idea of trading back is much more of an NFL thing than an NBA thing. Who wants to jump up to the 15th pick, ya know?
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Post#174 » by dsg2003mach1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:43 pm

Skin wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Skin wrote:My guy is also out for the season.

Based on our draft slot I'm hoping for Nesmith. Think if he was healthy he would be beyond our reach. Could be a blessing for us.


Weham can afford to draft another injured player like he did with chuma

Chuma will be our rookie next season

I don't know if fans want to give them that much leeway but I don't think ownership cares at this point. Results don't seem to be a priority here. As long as they are spending and it looks like they are doing their part as far as providing financial support, I don't think they care one bit about winning if they can point the blame elsewhere.


I really dont think they give a ****. They sell enough tickets to these tour groups to make their ticket revenue without having to sign superstars, go into the luxury tax etc... If this franchise was in an area not so heavily supported by tourists they would be in bad shape. I doubt there's even enough locals that care to make a big enough stink for management/ownership to have to pay attention
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Post#175 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:50 pm

dsg2003mach1 wrote:
Skin wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Weham can afford to draft another injured player like he did with chuma

Chuma will be our rookie next season

I don't know if fans want to give them that much leeway but I don't think ownership cares at this point. Results don't seem to be a priority here. As long as they are spending and it looks like they are doing their part as far as providing financial support, I don't think they care one bit about winning if they can point the blame elsewhere.


I really dont think they give a ****. They sell enough tickets to these tour groups to make their ticket revenue without having to sign superstars, go into the luxury tax etc... If this franchise was in an area not so heavily supported by tourists they would be in bad shape. I doubt there's even enough locals that care to make a big enough stink for management/ownership to have to pay attention


season ticket sales are down big time... lower bowl is already patchy and it's going to get worse next year with the raise in prices for 0 on court growth/excitement
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#176 » by azwfan » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:53 am

Greetings Magic fans. Warriors fan here.

Hypothetical question for you...
If GSW were to get a top pick as a result of the draft lottery... would ORL be interested in moving up from 15(ish)? and what would you be willing to give up to do so? Is there a prospect that you would want to move up for specifically? I was thinking Anthony Edwards (so likely #1 or #2 pick) would be a great fit for yall but I haven't been following your team that closely so I'm not sure what your needs are.

From GSW standpoint i think we would have interest in Bamba, Ross, Okeke, future 1sts (2021, 2022, 2024 are the years we'd have interest in), POSSIBLY Fournier (though i'm not sure how much value we would see in him considering his salary), and Gordon (who I don't think we can make it work salary wise).

GSW would have interest in these players for several reasons:
1) We are in need of wing defensive talent, and there doesn't appear to be a lot of that at the top of this years draft. (hence interest Ross, Gordon, Okeke)
2) We are in need of veterans with playoff experience to play a decent amount of minutes (assuming we are a playoff team / contender next season). Our 2021 bench is full of unproven youth and we really need to get some experience there. That said, we don't have interest in filling our bench with a bunch of has-been players (like the Heat teams with haslem, james jones, ilguaskas, etc.) unless we have to. (hence interest in Ross, Gordon, maybe Fournier)
3) We need a defensive minded center with size. Chriss has been a nice find for us, but Looney looks broken down and neither one can come close to matching up physically with the centers the Lakers throw out there, or even Valuciunus (sp?). (therefore the interest in Bamba).
4) Future picks have interest for GSW because our FO is always hunting for an elite player and future picks give ammunition to do so if there's an opportunity to strike. 2021 and 2022 1sts because they are supposed to be good drafts... 2024 because we traded our 2024 pick so that would give us flexibility to offer more picks if a superstar trade avails itself.

Anyways, thanks for any input you may have.
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Post#177 » by Skin » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:03 am

azwfan wrote:Greetings Magic fans. Warriors fan here.

Hypothetical question for you...
If GSW were to get a top pick as a result of the draft lottery... would ORL be interested in moving up from 15(ish)? and what would you be willing to give up to do so? Is there a prospect that you would want to move up for specifically? I was thinking Anthony Edwards (so likely #1 or #2 pick) would be a great fit for yall but I haven't been following your team that closely so I'm not sure what your needs are.

From GSW standpoint i think we would have interest in Bamba, Ross, Okeke, future 1sts (2021, 2022, 2024 are the years we'd have interest in), POSSIBLY Fournier (though i'm not sure how much value we would see in him considering his salary), and Gordon (who I don't think we can make it work salary wise).

GSW would have interest in these players for several reasons:
1) We are in need of wing defensive talent, and there doesn't appear to be a lot of that at the top of this years draft. (hence interest Ross, Gordon, Okeke)
2) We are in need of veterans with playoff experience to play a decent amount of minutes (assuming we are a playoff team / contender next season). Our 2021 bench is full of unproven youth and we really need to get some experience there. That said, we don't have interest in filling our bench with a bunch of has-been players (like the Heat teams with haslem, james jones, ilguaskas, etc.) unless we have to. (hence interest in Ross, Gordon, maybe Fournier)
3) We need a defensive minded center with size. Chriss has been a nice find for us, but Looney looks broken down and neither one can come close to matching up physically with the centers the Lakers throw out there, or even Valuciunus (sp?). (therefore the interest in Bamba).
4) Future picks have interest for GSW because our FO is always hunting for an elite player and future picks give ammunition to do so if there's an opportunity to strike. 2021 and 2022 1sts because they are supposed to be good drafts... 2024 because we traded our 2024 pick so that would give us flexibility to offer more picks if a superstar trade avails itself.

Anyways, thanks for any input you may have.

While it would be incredible to get the 1st pick, I don't think we would be able to give you all of that.

What about this:

1 & 2) Defensive wing/ Playoff veteran need - AG. Ross. Both fit. Okeke doesn't fit the veteran quality.

3) Defensive Center with size - Khem Birch is your man. Unselfish player who is a scrapper and is glad doing all the dirty work inside. Bamba is still to raw and still a project physically. He dosen't hold his ground against physical play like Birch does. Otherwise, Vucevic could actually be sneaky good addition for you.

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4) Draft picks - Asking for 4 1st round picks is too much. I don't even think you're allowed to trade 1sts in consecutive years.

2020, 2022, 2024 1st rounders is acceptable imo.

So Gordon, Ross, Birch or Vucevic, 3 unprotected 1st rounders for your pick. How does that sound?
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Post#178 » by zaymon » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:54 am

azwfan wrote:Greetings Magic fans. Warriors fan here.

Hypothetical question for you...
If GSW were to get a top pick as a result of the draft lottery... would ORL be interested in moving up from 15(ish)? and what would you be willing to give up to do so? Is there a prospect that you would want to move up for specifically? I was thinking Anthony Edwards (so likely #1 or #2 pick) would be a great fit for yall but I haven't been following your team that closely so I'm not sure what your needs are.

From GSW standpoint i think we would have interest in Bamba, Ross, Okeke, future 1sts (2021, 2022, 2024 are the years we'd have interest in), POSSIBLY Fournier (though i'm not sure how much value we would see in him considering his salary), and Gordon (who I don't think we can make it work salary wise).

GSW would have interest in these players for several reasons:
1) We are in need of wing defensive talent, and there doesn't appear to be a lot of that at the top of this years draft. (hence interest Ross, Gordon, Okeke)
2) We are in need of veterans with playoff experience to play a decent amount of minutes (assuming we are a playoff team / contender next season). Our 2021 bench is full of unproven youth and we really need to get some experience there. That said, we don't have interest in filling our bench with a bunch of has-been players (like the Heat teams with haslem, james jones, ilguaskas, etc.) unless we have to. (hence interest in Ross, Gordon, maybe Fournier)
3) We need a defensive minded center with size. Chriss has been a nice find for us, but Looney looks broken down and neither one can come close to matching up physically with the centers the Lakers throw out there, or even Valuciunus (sp?). (therefore the interest in Bamba).
4) Future picks have interest for GSW because our FO is always hunting for an elite player and future picks give ammunition to do so if there's an opportunity to strike. 2021 and 2022 1sts because they are supposed to be good drafts... 2024 because we traded our 2024 pick so that would give us flexibility to offer more picks if a superstar trade avails itself.

Anyways, thanks for any input you may have.

This draft is so weak at the top, that our 15 pick could easly be better than number 1 or 2 pick. Right now outside your championship core you have nothing that interest us. Maybe some would consider Vucevic for Wiggins and your pick, but i am quite certain our front office wouldnt do that.
Bamba for all his struggles showed a lot of potential, twice more than any player in this years draft. We wont deal Okeke until we see what we have in him, he is a prototipical forward. Ross could be had, but we dont really want to become younger, and your pick would be an overpay.
Gordon is available. Maybe Gordon + Augustine for Wiggins and your pick ? but Andrew is so overpaid that i doubt we do it.
Future picks are propably not available for you, this draft doesnt warrant you that.
You have little chance to aquire Fournier. We wont bite for Wiggins.
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Post#179 » by orlando_joe » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:15 am

Skin wrote:
azwfan wrote:Greetings Magic fans. Warriors fan here.

Hypothetical question for you...
If GSW were to get a top pick as a result of the draft lottery... would ORL be interested in moving up from 15(ish)? and what would you be willing to give up to do so? Is there a prospect that you would want to move up for specifically? I was thinking Anthony Edwards (so likely #1 or #2 pick) would be a great fit for yall but I haven't been following your team that closely so I'm not sure what your needs are.

From GSW standpoint i think we would have interest in Bamba, Ross, Okeke, future 1sts (2021, 2022, 2024 are the years we'd have interest in), POSSIBLY Fournier (though i'm not sure how much value we would see in him considering his salary), and Gordon (who I don't think we can make it work salary wise).

GSW would have interest in these players for several reasons:
1) We are in need of wing defensive talent, and there doesn't appear to be a lot of that at the top of this years draft. (hence interest Ross, Gordon, Okeke)
2) We are in need of veterans with playoff experience to play a decent amount of minutes (assuming we are a playoff team / contender next season). Our 2021 bench is full of unproven youth and we really need to get some experience there. That said, we don't have interest in filling our bench with a bunch of has-been players (like the Heat teams with haslem, james jones, ilguaskas, etc.) unless we have to. (hence interest in Ross, Gordon, maybe Fournier)
3) We need a defensive minded center with size. Chriss has been a nice find for us, but Looney looks broken down and neither one can come close to matching up physically with the centers the Lakers throw out there, or even Valuciunus (sp?). (therefore the interest in Bamba).
4) Future picks have interest for GSW because our FO is always hunting for an elite player and future picks give ammunition to do so if there's an opportunity to strike. 2021 and 2022 1sts because they are supposed to be good drafts... 2024 because we traded our 2024 pick so that would give us flexibility to offer more picks if a superstar trade avails itself.

Anyways, thanks for any input you may have.

While it would be incredible to get the 1st pick, I don't think we would be able to give you all of that.

What about this:

1 & 2) Defensive wing/ Playoff veteran need - AG. Ross. Both fit. Okeke doesn't fit the veteran quality.

3) Defensive Center with size - Khem Birch is your man. Unselfish player who is a scrapper and is glad doing all the dirty work inside. Bamba is still to raw and still a project physically. He dosen't hold his ground against physical play like Birch does. Otherwise, Vucevic could actually be sneaky good addition for you.

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4) Draft picks - Asking for 4 1st round picks is too much. I don't even think you're allowed to trade 1sts in consecutive years.

2020, 2022, 2024 1st rounders is acceptable imo.

So Gordon, Ross, Birch or Vucevic, 3 unprotected 1st rounders for your pick. How does that sound?

wow...crazy... is micheal Jordan in this draft ? what year is it again?
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Post#180 » by cedric76 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:49 am

Knightro wrote:Killian Hayes had 20 points, 10 assists yesterday. The best game of his season to date.

ESPN currently has him 14th on their big board, so he's in that range of possibilities for the Magic at 15.


He ll be out of our range by draft night. He ll be a top 8 for sure
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