Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks

Driguez · Post #161 » by **Driguez** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:42 pm

Well, gotta give it to WeHam for blowing this **** up, late but they blew it up nonetheless. I'd be more inclined to watch now, not bc of Vuc being gone but bc this may actually end up taking us somewhere, whether tahts up or down it doesnt matter (doubt we can get any worse). There was no other way.

IllMagic04 · Post #162 » by **IllMagic04** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:42 pm

Well with Vuc gone im doubtfull we win another game this season. Not even joking either

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Optimus_Steel · Post #163 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:42 pm

pepe1991 wrote:10 years of rebuilding turned into...new rebuild

can't even make this s*** up. Won 2 playoff games in 9 years

2030 is still attainable!

Mauro Pedrosa · Post #164 » by **Mauro Pedrosa** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:42 pm

I like the 1st rounders. Credit where credit is due, at least the front office blew it up. No criticism from me for the next 3 to 4 years

Post #165 » by **UCF** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:43 pm

I wish Vuc well and thank him for his time in Orlando. He turned out the be the best player in the Howard trade and will continue to benefit the team with this trade. The harsh reality is keeping him didn’t make sense and selling high was the best course forward.

Losing Aminu in the trade was an added bonus.

bigshawn · Post #166 » by **bigshawn** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:43 pm

KillMonger wrote:
bigshawn wrote:Love the Vuc trade. Lets now go get Evan Mobley, a new age mobile center.

that's a pass for me, i would be legit upset if we selected mobley

I hear you, I wanted Green initially. I'm torn between the two now due to losing Vuc. Mobley can move his feet on defense and shoot. Green is a more aggressive Vince Carter. Either way I like both.

pepe1991 · Post #167 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:43 pm

PigsEatHam wrote:Value of the return aside (which I don't think is terrible), a roster overhaul is long, LONG overdue. I'm thrilled they've finally committed to it, and I might actually enjoy watching Magic games again for the remainder of the season.

starting point guard: Bacon ( Pancetta )
starting SG: well.. i don't know... some G league body
starting SF: nobody, Otto Porter will probably ask for buyout
starting PF : okeke
Starting center. Wendell Carter Jr who we could draft anyway

ah
what a joy

I'm not watching magic game any time soon

shadrock · Post #168 » by **shadrock** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:44 pm

MoMM wrote:
shadrock wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:

Yikes thats terrible, his value is poop.

We gain by removing him. The cap space is more valuable than the contract he is on.

He is an expiring contract. How they can't get anything better than 2 2nd picks?

Because hes not worth more.

PrimeThyme · Post #169 » by **PrimeThyme** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:44 pm

I don't think it's fair to say this is a crap return for Vuc. Let's be honest, this was peak value for Vuc. Holding onto him and trading him off the best season of his career is exactly what we just did. I don't think we would have gotten anything close even last year.

The Effect · Post #170 » by **The Effect** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:45 pm

People can be mad at the returns all they want, but bigger picture is that we are under a full on rebuild

We all said, every single one of us, that this team as constructed when healthy was no better than a 5-6 seed.......so why bother continuing with the nonsense, tear it down, start over from scratch and build around JI, fultz, cole, chuma and hopefully cade cunningham or jalen green!

Magic#1 · Post #171 » by **Magic#1** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:45 pm

The1llness wrote:Did the Magic get the next Bam Adebayo in Carter Jr? What does it mean for Bamba’s future and what does it say about the front office that they selected Bamba one spot ahead.

On a side note I’m excited to see what the Bulls could do with that front court + LaVine.

Bamba has to get more run time now at least. There's a chance a Bamba/Carter/JI frontcourt at times could work depending on matchups, but my guess is this was their best offer and are going to see if Bamba develops and if not Carter may be our future center.

89Magicfan · Post #172 » by **89Magicfan** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:45 pm

They’re choosing a path at least.

Post #173 » by **FFBlitzace** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:45 pm

I'm on record of saying I'd be happy to trade Vuc for an expiring contract, so I approve of this trade. I'm shocked, but I'm happy. I'm not super high on Carter, he seems like a Tony Battie type of backup big to me. But whatever, I'll take it. Good luck to Vuc, he's a good guy, but it was time to move on.

MoMM · Post #174 » by **MoMM** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:45 pm

shadrock wrote:
MoMM wrote:
shadrock wrote:
We gain by removing him. The cap space is more valuable than the contract he is on.

He is an expiring contract. How they can't get anything better than 2 2nd picks?

Because hes not worth more.

That's what happens when you decide to trade in the last minute.

Lack of planning, that's only on our FO.

PrimeThyme · Post #175 » by **PrimeThyme** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:47 pm

pepe1991 wrote:starting point guard: Bacon ( Pancetta )
starting SG: well.. i don't know... some G league body
starting SF: nobody, Otto Porter will probably ask for buyout
starting PF : okeke
Starting center. Wendell Carter Jr who we could draft anyway

ah
what a joy

I'm not watching magic game any time soon

The funniest part is that we traded for WCJ. So we still aren't going to see Bamba play. That shows you how high the two people who even drafted him are on his long-term prospects.

This to me was a further indictment on him as a player.

PigsEatHam · Post #176 » by **PigsEatHam** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:47 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
PigsEatHam wrote:Value of the return aside (which I don't think is terrible), a roster overhaul is long, LONG overdue. I'm thrilled they've finally committed to it, and I might actually enjoy watching Magic games again for the remainder of the season.

starting point guard: Bacon ( Pancetta )
starting SG: well.. i don't know... some G league body
starting SF: nobody, Otto Porter will probably ask for buyout
starting PF : okeke
Starting center. Wendell Carter Jr who we could draft anyway

ah
what a joy

I'm not watching magic game any time soon

Fair enough. We don't know what Gordon trade will bring back, and I wouldn't mind seeing Bamba, Carter Jr., and Okeke playing larger roles without the regular starters in front of them. Not expecting them to win games or anything, but it'll be nice to see what, if anything, there is to build upon while we tank for a high draft pick and go into next season with Fultz and JI returning at some point.

Post #177 » by **UCFJayBird** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:47 pm

Terrible deal IMO. But at least now the team leadership will change which I've felt was 100% necessary for a number of years now.

Optimus_Steel · Post #178 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:48 pm

89Magicfan wrote:They’re choosing a path at least.

More like the players on the team forced them to choose a path...AG trade request, Evan saying is not coming back, etc..

MoMM · Post #179 » by **MoMM** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:48 pm

The Effect wrote:People can be mad at the returns all they want, but bigger picture is that we are under a full on rebuild

We all said, every single one of us, that this team as constructed when healthy was no better than a 5-6 seed.......so why bother continuing with the nonsense, tear it down, start over from scratch and build around JI, fultz, cole, chuma and hopefully cade cunningham or jalen green!

We add any of them + our injured players + Vuc/Ross and we have a Top 4 team in the East.

pepe1991 · Post #180 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:48 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:starting point guard: Bacon ( Pancetta )
starting SG: well.. i don't know... some G league body
starting SF: nobody, Otto Porter will probably ask for buyout
starting PF : okeke
Starting center. Wendell Carter Jr who we could draft anyway

ah
what a joy

I'm not watching magic game any time soon

The funniest part is that we traded for WCJ. So we still aren't going to see Bamba play. That shows you how high the two people who even drafted him are on his long-term prospects.

This to me was a further indictment on him as a player.

Yea that notion got laugh out of me.
We traded Vuc and in return we added player who was drafted after Bamba as we viewed Bamba as better prospect. :lol:

irony of terrible 2018 season is too strong