Orlando Magic Official Training Camp Thread - 9/27 to 10/9

[ORLMagicGirl15]

So of the game isn't on bally sports and league pass blocks out the game on league pass how will I be able to watch this game? Any ideas?

The game was delayed but played for Houston, so I am expecting it to be the same.

Was it televised properly or just the jumbotron feed? I'm weighing up whether to buy league pass now or wait until the televised games start

I’m sorry. I don’t have league pass yet. I’m going based on what a Houston rocket fan said. I should have made that more clear.

[KillMonger]

I was able to buy team league pass but for whatever reason I can't get it to work on the app

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[Dub_Sax]

I really hope they are through with all these experimental lineups. They need to start developing some continuity with specific lineups that will be used for real when the season starts.

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[Optimus_Steel]

I really hope they are through with all these experimental lineups. They need to start developing some continuity with specific lineups that will be used for real when the season starts.

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So we need any more indication that playing two centers doesn't work?

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[basketballRob]

We're going to set a record for turnovers this season.

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[zaymon]

I really hope they are through with all these experimental lineups. They need to start developing some continuity with specific lineups that will be used for real when the season starts.

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So we need any more indication that playing two centers doesn't work?

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Are we sure that two centers doesnt work ? We have 3 players who can drive and finish at the rim, Fultz, Wagner and Harris, and we have 2 players who can involve rolling bigs in Wagner and Fultz.... 3 players we missed last game.
Anthony is not good driving and finishing at the rim, and he is not good involving bigs, be it on the roll, posting up or whatever. Same with Suggs but he also struggles shooting, Bamba can only shoot.
If we want to experiment with bigger lineups one of those players at max should be on the floor at the same time.

[pepe1991]

I think experimenting with lineups that are gimmicky and will never have any serious usage of them in a league ( such is with Banchero at SF, Bol at PF, Bamba/Wagner at C) serve no purpose and will continue to harm and slow down already slow ( stunt?) development of players that show no tengable progress from year to year.

I don't think Okeke, Bamba Hampton, or Suggs (based souly on ballhandling of single preseasongame) showed any improvment over time they spent in nba. For Bamba this is 5th yaear and it's clear he will never become what people thought he will be.

[Skybox]

I think experimenting with lineups that are gimmicky and will never have any serious usage of them in a league ( such is with Banchero at SF, Bol at PF, Bamba/Wagner at C) serve no purpose and will continue to harm and slow down already slow ( stunt?) development of players that show no tengable progress from year to year.

I don't think Okeke, Bamba Hampton, or Suggs (based souly on ballhandling of single preseasongame) showed any improvment over time they spent in nba. For Bamba this is 5th yaear and it's clear he will never become what people thought he will be.

I think I'm returning to my earlier position that ANY lineup including Bol Bol is "gimmicky".

I like position less, I like experiments, I like all kinds of breakthrough revolutionary concept game-planning...but, above all else, I like NBA level talent.

[j-ragg]

If we went big to punish them with our size it’d be one thing. But we go big then end up shooting more threes.

Also I hated how many WCJ jumpers there were. Idc if it’s a Steven Adams, post his ass up from time to time to get something going inside.

[zaymon]

If we went big to punish them with our size it’d be one thing. But we go big then end up shooting more threes.

Also I hated how many WCJ jumpers there were. Idc if it’s a Steven Adams, post his ass up from time to time to get something going inside.

Its the Bamba Mentality we are embracing right now.

[pepe1991]

If we went big to punish them with our size it’d be one thing. But we go big then end up shooting more threes.

Also I hated how many WCJ jumpers there were. Idc if it’s a Steven Adams, post his ass up from time to time to get something going inside.

Well... it's hard to punish anybody with size when majority of your bigs are alergic to paint and you only shoot 3s...and those bricks bounce to 3 point line so your size works against you as smaller players outrun them in transition...

It's self sabotage to play big ,without players who have skills to play like big. They are just tall for sake of being tall.

Bol/Bamba even Franz to less degree have no practical usage of their lenght when they don't know how to play as bigs ( Franz would probably be identical player if he is 6'6 , this is me "dissing" him, he is probably my favorite Magic player, but guy can't is 6'10 and it's impossible to not notice how little he uses that )

[YosemiteSam]

Until G. Harris comes back, I think I'd start the following:

PG Suggs
SG Ross
SF Franz
PF Paolo
C Carter

Have the offense run through Paolo or Franz. Suggs plays for defense and to see if he has anything to build upon. Ross (and eventually G. Harris) are there for "gravity" to open up the lanes

Primary Bench

Cole
Hampton
Chuma
Moe W

Deep Bench

Bamba
K Harris
Admiral

G League

Houstan

Cut

Bol

[jonbob17]

I really hope they are through with all these experimental lineups. They need to start developing some continuity with specific lineups that will be used for real when the season starts.

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So we need any more indication that playing two centers doesn't work?

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Are we sure that two centers doesnt work ? We have 3 players who can drive and finish at the rim, Fultz, Wagner and Harris, and we have 2 players who can involve rolling bigs in Wagner and Fultz.... 3 players we missed last game.
Anthony is not good driving and finishing at the rim, and he is not good involving bigs, be it on the roll, posting up or whatever. Same with Suggs but he also struggles shooting, Bamba can only shoot.
If we want to experiment with bigger lineups one of those players at max should be on the floor at the same time.

You want as many skilled players on the floor at a time.

"Positionless" basketball is more about who can you guard.
Bamba can guard 5s
WCJ some4s and 5s
Paolo 4s maybe some small 5s
Franz some 2s and 3s and 4s
Suggs 1s and 2s and some 3s
Cole 1s

So putting two centers out there which is WCJ and Bamba are just wastes an offensive spot. Paolo probably can't guard most SFs.

Bamba is the back up center, anything else either means WCJ is hurt, or is just ridiculousness. Bamba is a good shooter for a big, but
I'd much rather see RJ or Cole on the floor.

Monday had to just be that Franz was held out, but does show how shallow our bench can be.

[Skybox]

If we went big to punish them with our size it’d be one thing. But we go big then end up shooting more threes.

Also I hated how many WCJ jumpers there were. Idc if it’s a Steven Adams, post his ass up from time to time to get something going inside.

Well... it's hard to punish anybody with size when majority of your bigs are alergic to paint and you only shoot 3s...and those bricks bounce to 3 point line so your size works against you as smaller players outrun them in transition...

It's self sabotage to play big ,without players who have skills to play like big. They are just tall for sake of being tall.

Bol/Bamba even Franz to less degree have no practical usage of their lenght when they don't know how to play as bigs ( Franz would probably be identical player if he is 6'6 , this is me "dissing" him, he is probably my favorite Magic player, but guy can't is 6'10 and it's impossible to not notice how little he uses that )

"Allergic to Paint" That's awesome

[ogmagicfan]

Until G. Harris comes back, I think I'd start the following:

PG Suggs
SG Ross
SF Franz
PF Paolo
C Carter

Have the offense run through Paolo or Franz. Suggs plays for defense and to see if he has anything to build upon. Ross (and eventually G. Harris) are there for "gravity" to open up the lanes

Primary Bench

Cole
Hampton
Chuma
Moe W

Deep Bench

Bamba
K Harris
Admiral

G League

Houstan

Cut

Bol

Bamba is better than Moe Wagner, I agree with the rest though

[zaymon]

Until G. Harris comes back, I think I'd start the following:

PG Suggs
SG Ross
SF Franz
PF Paolo
C Carter

Have the offense run through Paolo or Franz. Suggs plays for defense and to see if he has anything to build upon. Ross (and eventually G. Harris) are there for "gravity" to open up the lanes

Primary Bench

Cole
Hampton
Chuma
Moe W

Deep Bench

Bamba
K Harris
Admiral

G League

Houstan

Cut

Bol

Bamba is better than Moe Wagner, I agree with the rest though

He is better blocking shots, but he is definetly not a better basketball player.

[Village Idiot]

Until G. Harris comes back, I think I'd start the following:

PG Suggs
SG Ross
SF Franz
PF Paolo
C Carter

Have the offense run through Paolo or Franz. Suggs plays for defense and to see if he has anything to build upon. Ross (and eventually G. Harris) are there for "gravity" to open up the lanes

Primary Bench

Cole
Hampton
Chuma
Moe W

Deep Bench

Bamba
K Harris
Admiral

G League

Houstan

Cut

Bol

Bamba is better than Moe Wagner, I agree with the rest though

He is better blocking shots, but he is definetly not a better basketball player.

Is Jonathan Issac not going to play this season? I thought he was close to returning.

[zaymon]

Bamba is better than Moe Wagner, I agree with the rest though

He is better blocking shots, but he is definetly not a better basketball player.

Is Jonathan Issac not going to play this season? I thought he was close to returning.

He will play, just not from the start. They are extra careful with him, he said during media day that if it was up to him he would play already.

[KillMonger]

Got to give RJ his flowers.... Just 1 game but he seems ALOT more controlled.... Last season he was out there like a chicken with his head cut off.... So far, night and day difference

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[Village Idiot]

He is better blocking shots, but he is definetly not a better basketball player.

Is Jonathan Issac not going to play this season? I thought he was close to returning.

He will play, just not from the start. They are extra careful with him, he said during media day that if it was up to him he would play already.

Good to hear. I got confused since I saw Harris mentioned and I know he is expected to miss a big chunk of the season but not Issac whom I presume is still viewed as a cornerstone.