Jett Howard assigned to G-League

[drsd]

I wouldve loved Lively or Hawkins over Jett. Wanted Hawkins specifically TBH. Lively I found a bit risky with the #11 pick but clearly i was wrong. Either guy wouldve been nice. Hawkins wouldve replaced Harris. Lively wouldve replaced Goga. I think the FO made a mistake taking Jett TBH, but hopefully i get proven wrong.

I hated the Jett pick. Hopefully, he will prove me wrong. It fell like at the time that it was a big reach.

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Because it was- big reach.

I still can't understand decision to keep that pick.

The Magic did not need a rookie, and REALLY did not need two. Trading back thus made no sense. Orlando either needed to trade out of the draft (for example to trade the pick for a future FRP; straight up), or add the pick in what we fans all assumed would the consolidation trade to upgrade both guard slots.

In Howard's defense, nobody expects him to play before the 2024/25 season. Right now: his job is to work on his body and some team-defensive skills. He can do that in Osceola just fine.

[zaymon]

I wouldve loved Lively or Hawkins over Jett. Wanted Hawkins specifically TBH. Lively I found a bit risky with the #11 pick but clearly i was wrong. Either guy wouldve been nice. Hawkins wouldve replaced Harris. Lively wouldve replaced Goga. I think the FO made a mistake taking Jett TBH, but hopefully i get proven wrong.

I hated the Jett pick. Hopefully, he will prove me wrong. It fell like at the time that it was a big reach.

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Because it was- big reach.

I still can't understand decision to keep that pick.

I wanted Podziemski, but Howard was also in the mix before his injury. I remember mocks when he was around #10. He is long, shooter and even scorer. I dont think it was a bad pick. Maybe we will see more right now.

[pepe1991]

I hated the Jett pick. Hopefully, he will prove me wrong. It fell like at the time that it was a big reach.

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Because it was- big reach.

I still can't understand decision to keep that pick.

I wanted Podziemski, but Howard was also in the mix before his injury. I remember mocks when he was around #10. He is long, shooter and even scorer. I dont think it was a bad pick. Maybe we will see more right now.

In days before draft Jett was not mocked in lottery by not a single serious media outlet. Matter of fact, there were few that didn't even had him in first round.



He could have same problem as Okeke. No lathetal quickness nor ballhandling skills for SG, not really athletic for SF and not really tall for PF.


But to me it's not about Jett per-se. It's about using pick while having no PT for him to offer.

[p0peye]

What vet PG we could've traded for using picks 6 & 11 + Fultz?

How good would this team be if our backcourt was Jrue Holiday and Jalen Suggs? That probably would only require 11th pick. EDIT: I've just looked up his contract, maybe we would get back some lower pick in the trade as well.

[zaymon]

Because it was- big reach.

I still can't understand decision to keep that pick.

I wanted Podziemski, but Howard was also in the mix before his injury. I remember mocks when he was around #10. He is long, shooter and even scorer. I dont think it was a bad pick. Maybe we will see more right now.

In days before draft Jett was not mocked in lottery by not a single serious media outlet. Matter of fact, there were few that didn't even had him in first round.



He could have same problem as Okeke. No lathetal quickness nor ballhandling skills for SG, not really athletic for SF and not really tall for PF.


But to me it's not about Jett per-se. It's about using pick while having no PT for him to offer.

If Okeke was 38% shooter he would be a solid rotation piece.
Howard is 6'7, with solid frame he will not be Cole Anthony bad defensively.
He is both spot up and movement shooter which is huge.
I am not sold on him but the gamble feels worthy.
He doesnt have to play big minutes this season. Even now Suggs and Fultz are out and he can play some minutes.
Next year we will hopefully be without Fultz, we dont onow about Harris, some trades could happen.

[basketballRob]

I think the biggest reason why Magic picked Jett over Gradey Dick or Keyonte George is because Jett Howard has a more around skills on offense. He is more than a shooter. But he has to make his name known in the league by starting to make 3s. He has given limited chance this season, but with the chance, he didn't take advantage of it as much as Caleb Houstan. Also, the goal and plan of Magic is much different than previous seasons, we are trying to Win and rookies usually won't get the nod over

Caleb can stay in front of his man on defense, and I haven't seen that front Jett yet. I think that's a bigger reason why he hasn't played.

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[pepe1991]

I wanted Podziemski, but Howard was also in the mix before his injury. I remember mocks when he was around #10. He is long, shooter and even scorer. I dont think it was a bad pick. Maybe we will see more right now.

In days before draft Jett was not mocked in lottery by not a single serious media outlet. Matter of fact, there were few that didn't even had him in first round.



He could have same problem as Okeke. No lathetal quickness nor ballhandling skills for SG, not really athletic for SF and not really tall for PF.


But to me it's not about Jett per-se. It's about using pick while having no PT for him to offer.

If Okeke was 38% shooter he would be a solid rotation piece.
Howard is 6'7, with solid frame he will not be Cole Anthony bad defensively.
He is both spot up and movement shooter which is huge.
I am not sold on him but the gamble feels worthy.
He doesnt have to play big minutes this season. Even now Suggs and Fultz are out and he can play some minutes.
Next year we will hopefully be without Fultz, we dont onow about Harris, some trades could happen.

But we don't know can Jett shoot those numbers. Like, Okeke was actually more efficient college shooter overall ,albet Howard had bigger volumen on 3s.
As about his size at some places he is listed as 6'6, some 6'7 some 6'8. Again, very similar to Okeke, who was 6'8... until he arived in nba and shrink to 6'6

Defense at college left lot to be desired, given he looks slowfooted and not very athletic, i highly doubt he will ever be able to play SG in nba. So to me, Harris, Suggs, Fultz simply aren't his competition for PT.

On paper, Houstan, Howard and Okeke are basically same player. 6'6 swingmen who can make open jumpshots. In reality... eh.

[JoshuaPotter]

To me, it definitely a future stash investment into tomorrow. An investment tomorrow that we will get to see play possibly today!

I saw the vision deep into the night. Although I think that if we get Lively he cracks the rotation over Goga, that's just me though and my love for bigs. I also was vocal on the Keyonte train, Cason Wallace train. But this will sort itself out years from now, not today.

Looking just at Howard for my last thoughts in the thread for now. I expect like many drafts. Picks 10-30 are going to have a lot of busts, a sprinkle of regret, with a dash of why didn't we. Howard's biggest +'s are his development profile fit, and yes his attitude fitting within our culture. You can have an attitude change, but you cannot change the overall default of your nature. You can only fight against it in an never ending effort to improve. Similar to you cannot teach height.

[zaymon]

We just need to wait. Weltman has pretty good record drafting. Some misses but also big hits. Its funny that we all wanted big shooter and now when we got one many are dissapointed. Its not like Dick is great.

[yoyojw17]

We just need to wait. Weltman has pretty good record drafting. Some misses but also big hits. Its funny that we all wanted big shooter and now when we got one many are dissapointed. Its not like Dick is great.

Just checked Dick's stats in the G-League

16.4 points on 31% shooting in 39 min and 15 shots. So..... IF someone was on the Dick train.... they gotta give Jett some leeway as well. lol

[JoshuaPotter]

We just need to wait. Weltman has pretty good record drafting. Some misses but also big hits. Its funny that we all wanted big shooter and now when we got one many are dissapointed. Its not like Dick is great.

Just checked Dick's stats in the G-League

16.4 points on 31% shooting in 39 min and 15 shots. So..... IF someone was on the Dick train.... they gotta give Jett some leeway as well. lol

Eating a pile of crow so far myself. I had him above Chet and wondered why we didn't pick him over Chet.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

We just need to wait. Weltman has pretty good record drafting. Some misses but also big hits. Its funny that we all wanted big shooter and now when we got one many are dissapointed. Its not like Dick is great.

Just checked Dick's stats in the G-League

16.4 points on 31% shooting in 39 min and 15 shots. So..... IF someone was on the Dick train.... they gotta give Jett some leeway as well. lol

Eating a pile of crow so far myself. I had him above Chet and wondered why we didn't pick him over Chet.

Did you mean Jett?

[JoshuaPotter]

Just checked Dick's stats in the G-League

16.4 points on 31% shooting in 39 min and 15 shots. So..... IF someone was on the Dick train.... they gotta give Jett some leeway as well. lol

Eating a pile of crow so far myself. I had him above Chet and wondered why we didn't pick him over Chet.

Did you mean Jett?

I do!

[RookieStar]

I think the biggest reason why Magic picked Jett over Gradey Dick or Keyonte George is because Jett Howard has a more around skills on offense. He is more than a shooter. But he has to make his name known in the league by starting to make 3s. He has given limited chance this season, but with the chance, he didn't take advantage of it as much as Caleb Houstan. Also, the goal and plan of Magic is much different than previous seasons, we are trying to Win and rookies usually won't get the nod over

If you are talking about more skills on offense being shown in college and potential, then it has to be Keyonte. Ball handlng, drives and shooting are in his resume. Jett was projected as a gunner albeit a bigger/taller one.

[Skin]

What vet PG we could've traded for using picks 6 & 11 + Fultz?

How good would this team be if our backcourt was Jrue Holiday and Jalen Suggs? That probably would only require 11th pick. EDIT: I've just looked up his contract, maybe we would get back some lower pick in the trade as well.

Probably could've put something together using other assets for Damian Lillard.

[Blue_and_Whte]

At this point I think I would rather they picked Hawkins but I don’t know if things would’ve been any different considering the push to be a playoff team and the log jam at guard.

[meatwad4343]

Why do we have him back with the magic? Wouldn't it be more beneficial for his development if he gets game minutes in the g league vs sitting on the bench and not playing at all up here?

[jonbob17]

Because it was- big reach.

I still can't understand decision to keep that pick.

I wanted Podziemski, but Howard was also in the mix before his injury. I remember mocks when he was around #10. He is long, shooter and even scorer. I dont think it was a bad pick. Maybe we will see more right now.

In days before draft Jett was not mocked in lottery by not a single serious media outlet. Matter of fact, there were few that didn't even had him in first round.



He could have same problem as Okeke. No lathetal quickness nor ballhandling skills for SG, not really athletic for SF and not really tall for PF.


But to me it's not about Jett per-se. It's about using pick while having no PT for him to offer.

Who cares where he was "mocked"?

How many players have been successful in recent years that were drafted (and mocked) outside the lottery? There have been guys in recent years that might eventually make all-nba teams.
Jalen Williams is a name that comes to mind as a guy "mocked" in the later first round that OKC went and snatched in the lottery, because that was their guy.

I am certainly not putting Jett in with those success stories, and I didn't like the pick at the time, but going against the consensus of the mock draft echo chamber certainly isnt something that is going to determine whether or not Jett is successful.

[KillMonger]

Why do we have him back with the magic? Wouldn't it be more beneficial for his development if he gets game minutes in the g league vs sitting on the bench and not playing at all up here?

Maybe it's a road trip thing? When they go on road trips he stays here with us and goes back to Osceola when they're back in town.

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[pepe1991]

I wanted Podziemski, but Howard was also in the mix before his injury. I remember mocks when he was around #10. He is long, shooter and even scorer. I dont think it was a bad pick. Maybe we will see more right now.

In days before draft Jett was not mocked in lottery by not a single serious media outlet. Matter of fact, there were few that didn't even had him in first round.



He could have same problem as Okeke. No lathetal quickness nor ballhandling skills for SG, not really athletic for SF and not really tall for PF.


But to me it's not about Jett per-se. It's about using pick while having no PT for him to offer.

Who cares where he was "mocked"?

How many players have been successful in recent years that were drafted (and mocked) outside the lottery? There have been guys in recent years that might eventually make all-nba teams.
Jalen Williams is a name that comes to mind as a guy "mocked" in the later first round that OKC went and snatched in the lottery, because that was their guy.

I am certainly not putting Jett in with those success stories, and I didn't like the pick at the time, but going against the consensus of the mock draft echo chamber certainly isnt something that is going to determine whether or not Jett is successful.

And how many were complete reach that went nowhere? Probably way more than other way around.
The worst first overall pick ever, Bennet, was drafted in such fashion and he for sure ain't only one.


Thing with Jett is, portion of serious pages,sites & experts didn't even have Jett in first round. We drafted him 11th. Last time similar situation happened ? Chuma Okeke. Result-- oh well.


My stand on 11th pick has nothing to do with Jett Howard per-se. I wanted to get rid of that pick for reasons i figured he simply won't play any time soon. 1/3rd into first nba season, he didn't play at all.