2024-2025 Regular Season Game 75: Sacramento Kings vs Orlando Magic

[Skybox]

AB is 51/42/88 over the last 9 games.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/anthony-black-stats-over-last-9-games

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Talk about blinders on with a prewritten narrative...AB with 8 pts in 25 minutes against a horribly defenseless team, with 4 assists and 5 turnovers...BUT he shot 100% on his one 3pt attempt

awesome!

Credit where it's due...not where it's not

[BadMofoPimp]

WTF Houstan??? Where was this ALL season????

Everyone screaming to play Jett more . . .

Well, in February, he averaged 21.5mpg and shot 29.8% from 3 . . .

Jett is not 22 yet, we ll see. Don't be impatient or you ll be proven wrong again

Caleb Houstan is 22 and has proven to be better than Jett in the minutes they have both played this season.

[Bergmaniac]

Too bad we can't play the Kings every week, for some reason we almost always shoot lights out from 3 in these games and in general match extremely well against them. We played very solid D, made 3, got easy looks at the rim, moved the ball well, this was about as good as it gets of a performance.

On the other hand, Lavine is probably relieved he won't play the Magic again this year, he's had an absolute nightmare in all 4 games against us this season. He averaged 10.5 PPG on horrendous efficiency and all 4 games were won by the Magic.

[basketballRob]

AB is 51/42/88 over the last 9 games.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/anthony-black-stats-over-last-9-games

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Talk about blinders on with a prewritten narrative...AB with 8 pts in 25 minutes against a horribly defenseless team, with 4 assists and 5 turnovers...BUT he shot 100% on his one 3pt attempt

awesome!

Credit where it's due...not where it's not

12 ppg in the last 9.

Did you even watch the game? 3 of the turnovers were on miscommunication. They just need to play together more

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[yoyojw17]

What a game by the Magic and the Gators. Can't believe my boys are finally back in the Final Four.

That game was.....

[Ducklett]

I haven't watched much College basketball but I do not understand how he's a mid-to-late 2nd round talent.

Pritchard was drafted 26th. Both are 6'2" 190 lb PGs. Brunson drafted 33rd and is 6'2" 190.

I guess at that size and older, that's the range you get picked.

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Both Brunson and Prichard were better college players than Clayton is.

It's not just about size, it's more about age and how much better player can get, entering nba at age of 23-ish.
One whole year will be wasted in re-programing from bad habits & catching up with speed of nba, by year 24 you are what you are.

In most sports, including non-college basketball, around the globe, player at age of 22-23 is alraedy pro for at least 4 years.

Vast majority of college "elite scorers" end up in exotic leagues around the globe, among ones who actually end up being pro basketball players.

In 99% of other sports & leagues if you are not pro at age of 22- you are amateur that doesn't belong in pro sports.


If you go even deeper, probability of getting good nba player pass age of 21 is very low, that's why teams simply- don't take them.

Pepe college players are pros now. They get paid. The reason a lot of these guys aren't entering the draft immediately is they are already making big money. Clayton's backup is a guy on the Slovenia national team.

I have no idea if he will be an NBA player, but using a 2nd on him doesn't seem like much of a downside play. There is a reason the national media keeps comparing him to Curry. Dude can just blast 3s. He also scored 30 in an elite eight game, which honestly doesn't happen often.

[pepe1991]

Pritchard was drafted 26th. Both are 6'2" 190 lb PGs. Brunson drafted 33rd and is 6'2" 190.

I guess at that size and older, that's the range you get picked.

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Both Brunson and Prichard were better college players than Clayton is.

It's not just about size, it's more about age and how much better player can get, entering nba at age of 23-ish.
One whole year will be wasted in re-programing from bad habits & catching up with speed of nba, by year 24 you are what you are.

In most sports, including non-college basketball, around the globe, player at age of 22-23 is alraedy pro for at least 4 years.

Vast majority of college "elite scorers" end up in exotic leagues around the globe, among ones who actually end up being pro basketball players.

In 99% of other sports & leagues if you are not pro at age of 22- you are amateur that doesn't belong in pro sports.


If you go even deeper, probability of getting good nba player pass age of 21 is very low, that's why teams simply- don't take them.

Pepe college players are pros now. They get paid. The reason a lot of these guys aren't entering the draft immediately is they are already making big money. Clayton's backup is a guy on the Slovenia national team.

I have no idea if he will be an NBA player, but using a 2nd on him doesn't seem like much of a downside play. There is a reason the national media keeps comparing him to Curry. Dude can just blast 3s. He also scored 30 in an elite eight game, which honestly doesn't happen often.

Best to my knowledge:

- college players aren't pros becase they don't have contracts with teams
- they can't have contracts with teams because schools aren't pro teams ( therfor they aren't pros but students)
- they are allowed to make money off sponsorship deals
- from total price money, top prospects make massive chunk because investors view them as investments (money off NIL )
- Slovenian guy never played on national team, but on youth Eurobasket team ( u20 Slovenia).
- no reason to even adress Steph Curry thing, one was lottery pick ( for a reason), other isn't projected to be drafted in first round ( also, for a reasons)
- i don't mind picking Clayton in second round, but if you don't have time to play your lottery selected players, what's the point of drafting anybody in second round ( especially because we know they won't trade out both of their first round picks anyway)

My personal opinion about NCAA in terms of quality of a league isn't very high. Most players play for personal stats, there is no fear of relagation, most players aren't "schooled" in terms of how unpolished they are at sport. Vast majority of them lack basketball fundamentals and that is key reason why they need so much to adjust to nba.
For example, i don't know, Alex Sarr, guy doesn't have nba body, he is far away from finished product, but guy is 18 and his fundamentals are sound. He makes very little mistakes , especially on defensive end. How many college players, including seniors, process defensive side of a ball? 5-10% ? Most of them are older than Sarr. From a guy who doesn't even like Sarr
Zaccharie Risacher is even better example. 19 years old, on both sides hardly makes any mistakes.

[Ducklett]

Both Brunson and Prichard were better college players than Clayton is.

It's not just about size, it's more about age and how much better player can get, entering nba at age of 23-ish.
One whole year will be wasted in re-programing from bad habits & catching up with speed of nba, by year 24 you are what you are.

In most sports, including non-college basketball, around the globe, player at age of 22-23 is alraedy pro for at least 4 years.

Vast majority of college "elite scorers" end up in exotic leagues around the globe, among ones who actually end up being pro basketball players.

In 99% of other sports & leagues if you are not pro at age of 22- you are amateur that doesn't belong in pro sports.


If you go even deeper, probability of getting good nba player pass age of 21 is very low, that's why teams simply- don't take them.

Pepe college players are pros now. They get paid. The reason a lot of these guys aren't entering the draft immediately is they are already making big money. Clayton's backup is a guy on the Slovenia national team.

I have no idea if he will be an NBA player, but using a 2nd on him doesn't seem like much of a downside play. There is a reason the national media keeps comparing him to Curry. Dude can just blast 3s. He also scored 30 in an elite eight game, which honestly doesn't happen often.

Best to my knowledge:

- college players aren't pros becase they don't have contracts with teams
- they can't have contracts with teams because schools aren't pro teams ( therfor they aren't pros but students)
- they are allowed to make money off sponsorship deals
- from total price money, top prospects make massive chunk because investors view them as investments (money off NIL )
- Slovenian guy never played on national team, but on youth Eurobasket team ( u20 Slovenia).
- no reason to even adress Steph Curry thing, one was lottery pick ( for a reason), other isn't projected to be drafted in first round ( also, for a reasons)
- i don't mind picking Clayton in second round, but if you don't have time to play your lottery selected players, what's the point of drafting anybody in second round ( especially because we know they won't trade out both of their first round picks anyway)

My personal opinion about NCAA in terms of quality of a league isn't very high. Most players play for personal stats, there is no fear of relagation, most players aren't "schooled" in terms of how unpolished they are at sport. Vast majority of them lack basketball fundamentals and that is key reason why they need so much to adjust to nba.
For example, i don't know, Alex Sarr, guy doesn't have nba body, he is far away from finished product, but guy is 18 and his fundamentals are sound. He makes very little mistakes , especially on defensive end. How many college players, including seniors, process defensive side of a ball? 5-10% ? Most of them are older than Sarr. From a guy who doesn't even like Sarr
Zaccharie Risacher is even better example. 19 years old, on both sides hardly makes any mistakes.

The Schools can and must pay them for the likeness Pepe. They sign for a year and get paid X.

[basketballRob]

I haven't watched much College basketball but I do not understand how he's a mid-to-late 2nd round talent.

Pritchard was drafted 26th. Both are 6'2" 190 lb PGs. Brunson drafted 33rd and is 6'2" 190.

I guess at that size and older, that's the range you get picked.

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Both Brunson and Prichard were better college players than Clayton is.

It's not just about size, it's more about age and how much better player can get, entering nba at age of 23-ish.
One whole year will be wasted in re-programing from bad habits & catching up with speed of nba, by year 24 you are what you are.

In most sports, including non-college basketball, around the globe, player at age of 22-23 is alraedy pro for at least 4 years.

Vast majority of college "elite scorers" end up in exotic leagues around the globe, among ones who actually end up being pro basketball players.

In 99% of other sports & leagues if you are not pro at age of 22- you are amateur that doesn't belong in pro sports.


If you go even deeper, probability of getting good nba player pass age of 21 is very low, that's why teams simply- don't take them.

I think Clayton put up better stats than Pritchard.

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[jezzerinho]

Shocker: player movement and ball movement make your offense better.

Who'd a thunk it?

[ogmagicfan]

CoJo has done so much for our team, and the energy he plays with is incredible for a 33 yr old out of shape guard who was expecting to be a 3rd string guard.

Lots of respect for him

[cedric76]

Everyone screaming to play Jett more . . .

Well, in February, he averaged 21.5mpg and shot 29.8% from 3 . . .

Jett is not 22 yet, we ll see. Don't be impatient or you ll be proven wrong again

Caleb Houstan is 22 and has proven to be better than Jett in the minutes they have both played this season.

as i said Jett is only 21 and you ll be proven wrong again :^)

[jezzerinho]

CoJo has done so much for our team, and the energy he plays with is incredible for a 33 yr old out of shape guard who was expecting to be a 3rd string guard.

Lots of respect for him

Surely there's nobody left.on here who thinks we shouldnt have signed a proper PG to help our young stars' development at least 2 yrs ago.

[Bensational]

AB is 51/42/88 over the last 9 games.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/anthony-black-stats-over-last-9-games

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Talk about blinders on with a prewritten narrative...AB with 8 pts in 25 minutes against a horribly defenseless team, with 4 assists and 5 turnovers...BUT he shot 100% on his one 3pt attempt

awesome!

Credit where it's due...not where it's not

The post you quoted is only showing you AB’s shooting %’s over the last 9 games, what prewritten narrative are you talking about? You don’t even want to give him credit where it’s due - his improved shooting %’s. Prewritten narrative much?

[Skybox]

AB is 51/42/88 over the last 9 games.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/anthony-black-stats-over-last-9-games

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Talk about blinders on with a prewritten narrative...AB with 8 pts in 25 minutes against a horribly defenseless team, with 4 assists and 5 turnovers...BUT he shot 100% on his one 3pt attempt

awesome!

Credit where it's due...not where it's not

12 ppg in the last 9.

Did you even watch the game? 3 of the turnovers were on miscommunication. They just need to play together more

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Are they usually on purpose? He’s been good…last night was meh at best…if there was ever an easy night to rack up flimsy stats (rather than excuses)it was last night

[ogmagicfan]

CoJo has done so much for our team, and the energy he plays with is incredible for a 33 yr old out of shape guard who was expecting to be a 3rd string guard.

Lots of respect for him

Surely there's nobody left.on here who thinks we shouldnt have signed a proper PG to help our young stars' development at least 2 yrs ago.

No we shouldnt get a legit PG because it'll take the ball out of Paolo & Franz's hands! /s

[Skybox]

AB is 51/42/88 over the last 9 games.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/anthony-black-stats-over-last-9-games

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Talk about blinders on with a prewritten narrative...AB with 8 pts in 25 minutes against a horribly defenseless team, with 4 assists and 5 turnovers...BUT he shot 100% on his one 3pt attempt

awesome!

Credit where it's due...not where it's not

The post you quoted is only showing you AB’s shooting %’s over the last 9 games, what prewritten narrative are you talking about? You don’t even want to give him credit where it’s due - his improved shooting %’s. Prewritten narrative much?

If he’s going to cherry pick stats as if it’s been a linear improvement…that’s just finding what you want and choosing to ignore the bigger picture. I’m as quick to praise AB as anyone, when warranted…it’s the childish “look he put his shoes on the right feet” fanboy BS that’s biased…if it started with “ too many turnovers but…” I’d give his foolishness more credence. It’s day to day with AB, up and down…if a guy that apologists still want to call a PG has MORE turnovers than assists in a 121 point blowout…then you/they are choosing to look the other way.

[KillMonger]

Why is people expecting AB to be good right away? That doesn't happen often, usually takes time

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[Idiosyncratic]

This game is seriously not worth analyzing for AB. He was awesome in the 1st half when they pulled away big time. Came in after they pulled away even more very late in 3rd and played at walking speed letting Queen, Jett and TDS get the bulk of shots. The game was over his entire stint in the 2nd half. I'm not mad that he didn't go hard for buckets in a blowout and let his teammates who don't play shoot the ball.

You don't want to see the turnover numbers, but a few were freak miscommunications, turnovers haven't really been a problem with him lately.

I don't think anybody is saying he's been great or looks like the surefire PG of the future, but he was around a 50 TS% for most of the year then put up 55.8% in FEB and 59.4% in March. That is promising to see out of a 21 year old who is always a steady presence on defense.

[eyriq]

This game is seriously not worth analyzing for AB. He was awesome in the 1st half when they pulled away big time. Came in after they pulled away even more very late in 3rd and played at walking speed letting Queen, Jett and TDS get the bulk of shots. The game was over his entire stint in the 2nd half. I'm not mad that he didn't go hard for buckets in a blowout and let his teammates who don't play shoot the ball.

You don't want to see the turnover numbers, but a few were freak miscommunications, turnovers haven't really been a problem with him lately.

I don't think anybody is saying he's been great or looks like the surefire PG of the future, but he was around a 50 TS% for most of the year then put up 55.8% in FEB and 59.4% in March. That is promising to see out of a 21 year old who is always a steady presence on defense.

I think he looks great and is the sure fire point guard of the future.