BaTATAS 1.0: DISCUSSION THREAD 1 - LOCK PLEASE!!!

Grinditout · Post #1601 » by **Grinditout** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:56 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:Somewhat surprised Christian Laettner went undrafted, thought he could've fit with any team.

More surprised by Mark Aguirre not being picked up. Although it's probably due to the fact that there are only 200 spots, while there are 300 eligible players. Players were bound to be left off.

Grinditout · Post #1602 » by **Grinditout** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:58 pm

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:Well this has been a pretty disappointing day.

Slowest day of the entire draft lol.

CoolKids · Post #1603 » by **CoolKids** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:04 pm

Phil is great and you could argue he fits with any team since he had such great results but I perosnally think he needs a transcendent talent to really be as good as he was which the heat dont have in this BAT

Grinditout · Post #1604 » by **Grinditout** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:07 pm

CoolKids wrote:Phil is great and you could argue he fits with any team since he had such great results but I perosnally think he needs a transcendent talent to really be as good as he was which the heat dont have in this BAT

I was thinking since Phil runs the triangle, that it limits Parker a bit. But I could still see it working possibly.

Post #1605 » by **SOUL** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:12 pm

he's the best handler of talent period, just so happens he won with jordan and kobe but for so many skilled players and personalities he is the best and i couldnt justify him going past 3

lilroddyb · Post #1606 » by **lilroddyb** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:18 pm

damn I thought Phil Jackson would fall to me

Yea I think Phil can work with any team

Post #1607 » by **SOUL** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:19 pm

although i almost took another coach that had a transcendent talent. i mean lets be real, every coach needs great talent loll but 11 rings are 11 rings

spree8 · Post #1608 » by **spree8** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:00 pm

Wow, I was hoping the Celtics Gm would make this easy on me and just take his Celtic guy so I could take my Knicks guy...of the same name :wink:

. I'll give him 5 minutes before I steal his legend lol.

bigdogdylan5 · Post #1609 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:30 pm

CoolKids wrote:Phil is great and you could argue he fits with any team since he had such great results but I perosnally think he needs a transcendent talent to really be as good as he was which the heat dont have in this BAT

This frustrates me a lot I coulda picked Phil but arguing he fits with any team is so stupid he has only won with ONE type of offense and two of best players in NBA history that are basically carbon copies of each other

Grinditout · Post #1610 » by **Grinditout** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:34 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:
CoolKids wrote:Phil is great and you could argue he fits with any team since he had such great results but I perosnally think he needs a transcendent talent to really be as good as he was which the heat dont have in this BAT

This frustrates me a lot I coulda picked Phil but arguing he fits with any team is so stupid he has only won with ONE type of offense and two of best players in NBA history that are basically carbon copies of each other

The thing with Phil is that he has used the triangle offense his whole coaching career, which limits and marginalizes the traditional point guard position. It's not a perfect fit because Tony Parker is such a good PG it'd almost be a waste, but it is plausible that Jackson could work around that.

Post #1611 » by **SOUL** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:37 pm

lol ok let me pick flip saunders then

Skin · Post #1612 » by **Skin** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:47 pm

Major disadvantage for teams picking Head Coaches at the end of the round. Without the snake style compensation this really seems silly. Coaches should've been picked anytime throughout the draft.

bigdogdylan5 · Post #1613 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:47 pm

SOUL wrote:lol ok let me pick flip saunders then

No it's a good fit for ur team but it took two comments for someone to say he fits with any team which enrages me cause a big part of this thing is chemistry if the guy who picks Jordan and/or Jackson wins by default what is the point

bigdogdylan5 · Post #1614 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:49 pm

Skin wrote:Major disadvantage for teams picking Head Coaches at the end of the round. Without the snake style compensation this really seems silly. Coaches should've been picked anytime throughout the draft.

Guys who picked at top of draft had huge advantage this was the right move

LBPTarHeel27 · Post #1615 » by **LBPTarHeel27** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:07 pm

Skin wrote:Major disadvantage for teams picking Head Coaches at the end of the round. Without the snake style compensation this really seems silly. Coaches should've been picked anytime throughout the draft.

LOL, this is compensation for the guys that missed out on MJ, Magic, etc.

Skin · Post #1616 » by **Skin** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:21 pm

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:
Skin wrote:Major disadvantage for teams picking Head Coaches at the end of the round. Without the snake style compensation this really seems silly. Coaches should've been picked anytime throughout the draft.

LOL, this is compensation for the guys that missed out on MJ, Magic, etc.

LOL, so we grade the Phil Jackson and Red Aurbach picks with the same weight?

I don't think you understand how snake style drafts balance things out.

LBPTarHeel27 · Post #1617 » by **LBPTarHeel27** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:28 pm

Skin wrote:
LBPTarHeel27 wrote:
Skin wrote:Major disadvantage for teams picking Head Coaches at the end of the round. Without the snake style compensation this really seems silly. Coaches should've been picked anytime throughout the draft.

LOL, this is compensation for the guys that missed out on MJ, Magic, etc.

LOL, so we grade the Phil Jackson and Red Aurbach picks with the same weight?

I don't think you understand how snake style drafts balance things out.

When the top picks are so much stronger than the end of the round, there is never true balance. Something had to be changed up to provide that. You can't let the person who got the greatest player of all time to also get the greatest coach of all time. Little silly, IMO.

WillyJakkz · Post #1618 » by **WillyJakkz** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:35 pm

I see some coaching/ talent/ team mismatches but gonna wait til rankings to elaborate.

MagicFan32 · Post #1619 » by **MagicFan32** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:42 pm

I picked Rick Adelman as my coach, I have an up tempo , offensive team with skilled passers, he seemed like a good choice. my rotation of bigs will play really good defense, something he's rarely had and let's be real here, if not for the game 6 abomination by the NBA officials in 2002 this man is a world champion coach

Skin · Post #1620 » by **Skin** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:47 pm

WillyJakkz wrote:I see some coaching/ talent/ team mismatches but gonna wait til rankings to elaborate.

This is really so silly. Are you thinking that people should bypass taking on an all time great coach because of fit? Players make coaches. Coaches adjust to the strength of their players. In a draft where we draft our teams BEFORE selecting a HC, it matters very VERY little on who the HC is. If Stan Van Gundy were coaching MJ/Pippen or Kobe/Shaq would've been off the board by now too.