Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0

[OnlyFranz22]

Dallas wants WCJ, wonder if they are willing to give up Tim Hardaway Jr.?

Green or Hardy much more compelling.

Green would be first choice. They have been showcasing him a bit lately. Numbers have been greatly improved.

[zaymon]

I do think it'd be suicidal to trade either Cole or Jett to Atlanta. You can't trade a scorer or shooter to a division rival. They'll make our lives hell 4 times a season. I'd rather put someone like Goga in there if they don't plan to pay to re-sign him. Great player but he's not going to drop 8 threes on your head in a sleepy game in December.

I'd pay big bucks to see Cole or Jett go against Suggs/Murray combo 4 times a year. Cole would go 4-15 -> 12 points 4 turnovers 3 assists.

On a good night. He would not cross the halfcourt against Black.

[eyriq]

Bill Simons trade value episode is worth a listen

[Skybox]

I do think it'd be suicidal to trade either Cole or Jett to Atlanta. You can't trade a scorer or shooter to a division rival. They'll make our lives hell 4 times a season. I'd rather put someone like Goga in there if they don't plan to pay to re-sign him. Great player but he's not going to drop 8 threes on your head in a sleepy game in December.

IF we're scared of Cole Anthony and a guy in the G-League, ORL doesn't deserve a franchise.

[orlando_joe]

organic built in modern era is myth. Only somewhat true example to this are Spurs, won last title decade ago, with core they drafted around 2 decades ago.


Even Warriors are not really "core" built. In 3 out of 4 titles they won, their "core" player wasn't finals MVP. And in 4th, second best player was Wiggins.

Lebron's team jumping won more titles than all "organic" builds in past 15 years combined.

Does organic built include Kobe and Lakers? Or Duncan and Spurs? One man dinasty?

so what you are saying is unless best nba player picks your team to jump to you cant win...got it...lol

[Skybox]

Organic vs non organic….Its all about possibilities yall. You have the cards in front of you and you play with them the best you can. If you see an opportunity now, you pounce on it. If not your grow “organically”.

Why is it that, historically, all of the opportunities seem to land in the same organizations' laps...maybe it's not dumb luck, maybe good FO's make their own luck by being proactive and actually insisting on constant improvement, rather than hoping it drops out of the sky.

No excuses, this FO has ALL of the cards anyone needs to make a significant move. They deserve a lot of credit for getting to that present situation...they deserve to be thrown out if they don't do anything with it.

[Husky1]

Dallas wants WCJ, wonder if they are willing to give up Tim Hardaway Jr.?

Green or Hardy much more compelling.

Green would be first choice. They have been showcasing him a bit lately. Numbers have been greatly improved.

It’s an interesting thought Re: WCJ. He’s a good player, but it’s obvious he doesn’t fit as a starter on this team. Do we use him to get an upgrade/ another perimeter player like Green/THJ then ride out the year with Goga and then upgrade the C position in off-season?? I would be temped. We can’t do a playoff run with WCJ as our Center. He just gets owned against a bigger C every time

[orlando_joe]

Organic vs non organic….Its all about possibilities yall. You have the cards in front of you and you play with them the best you can. If you see an opportunity now, you pounce on it. If not your grow “organically”.

Why is it that, historically, all of the opportunities seem to land in the same organizations' laps...maybe it's not dumb luck, maybe good FO's make their own luck by being proactive and actually insisting on constant improvement, rather than hoping it drops out of the sky.

No excuses, this FO has ALL of the cards anyone needs to make a significant move. They deserve a lot of credit for getting to that present situation...they deserve to be thrown out if they don't do anything with it.

except for the right player available and other team will trade ? i mean other then the real thing..sure i guess

[JoshuaPotter]

So for those of us rolling in...what's the spice...

Murray rumors?
Dallas rumors?

Anything corroborated? or Official or we just at "sources"?

[OnlyFranz22]

Dallas wants WCJ, wonder if they are willing to give up Tim Hardaway Jr.?

Green or Hardy much more compelling.

Green would be first choice. They have been showcasing him a bit lately. Numbers have been greatly improved.

It’s an interesting thought Re: WCJ. He’s a good player, but it’s obvious he doesn’t fit as a starter on this team. Do we use him to get an upgrade/ another perimeter player like Green/THJ then ride out the year with Goga and then upgrade the C position in off-season?? I would be temped. We can’t do a playoff run with WCJ as our Center. He just gets owned against a bigger C every time

Goga can do what WCJ does. I understand one is more highly thought of, but it’s the truth.

I would trade WCJ for Green. No question. Unless he is part of a bigger name player package.

Then send Washington Fultz/and whatever picks they want for Gafford/Tyus for depth.

[orlando_joe]

Green or Hardy much more compelling.

Green would be first choice. They have been showcasing him a bit lately. Numbers have been greatly improved.

It’s an interesting thought Re: WCJ. He’s a good player, but it’s obvious he doesn’t fit as a starter on this team. Do we use him to get an upgrade/ another perimeter player like Green/THJ then ride out the year with Goga and then upgrade the C position in off-season?? I would be temped. We can’t do a playoff run with WCJ as our Center. He just gets owned against a bigger C every time

Goga can do what WCJ does. I understand one is more highly thought of, but it’s the truth.

I would trade WCJ for Green. No question. Unless he is part of a bigger name player package.

Then second Washington Fultz/and whatever picks they want for Gafford/Tyus for depth.

he cant shot from 10 ft yet spread floor to 3pt line was at point no team guards goga outside of 5 ft they back off big time...and he cant recover at all on defense ..so no goga really cant

[Skybox]

Organic vs non organic….Its all about possibilities yall. You have the cards in front of you and you play with them the best you can. If you see an opportunity now, you pounce on it. If not your grow “organically”.

Why is it that, historically, all of the opportunities seem to land in the same organizations' laps...maybe it's not dumb luck, maybe good FO's make their own luck by being proactive and actually insisting on constant improvement, rather than hoping it drops out of the sky.

No excuses, this FO has ALL of the cards anyone needs to make a significant move. They deserve a lot of credit for getting to that present situation...they deserve to be thrown out if they don't do anything with it.

except for the right player available and other team will trade ? i mean other then the real thing..sure i guess

I'm sorry. I don't follow what you're saying

*usually a lot easier, just "No"

[MasterGMer]

Is there any reliable source we are interested in Murray? Can you at least quote them here? Or link a tweet?


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[Blue_and_Whte]

Dallas wants WCJ, wonder if they are willing to give up Tim Hardaway Jr.?

Green or Hardy much more compelling.

Green would be first choice. They have been showcasing him a bit lately. Numbers have been greatly improved.

Green / THJ for WCJ / Harris works but that’s probably an overpay for DAL

[tiderulz]

organic built in modern era is myth. Only somewhat true example to this are Spurs, won last title decade ago, with core they drafted around 2 decades ago.


Even Warriors are not really "core" built. In 3 out of 4 titles they won, their "core" player wasn't finals MVP. And in 4th, second best player was Wiggins.

Lebron's team jumping won more titles than all "organic" builds in past 15 years combined.

Does organic built include Kobe and Lakers? Or Duncan and Spurs? One man dinasty?

so what you are saying is unless best nba player picks your team to jump to you cant win...got it...lol

not what he said at all. you cant just rely on building a team solely thru the draft. it doesnt work

[tiderulz]

So for those of us rolling in...what's the spice...

Murray rumors?
Dallas rumors?

Anything corroborated? or Official or we just at "sources"?

[MasterGMer]

Organic build? Every championship team is built with some sort of risks. Why even Warriors drafted Steph Curry at 7? Why would Toronto traded for Kawhi Leonard from Spurs on a one year rental? Why would Denver get KCP and traded for AG?

It is not just about the timeline. It is about building it the right way. Every thing has cost. If you want to avoid cost and organic build? I haven’t seen that before


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[DiplomaticMagic]

I feel like its going to be a boring trade deadline. Not only for us, but for the NBA.

[Skybox]

Dallas wants WCJ, wonder if they are willing to give up Tim Hardaway Jr.?

Green or Hardy much more compelling.

Green would be first choice. They have been showcasing him a bit lately. Numbers have been greatly improved.

Green / THJ for WCJ / Harris works but that’s probably an overpay for DAL

I think that's very fair, maybe even tipped towards us. Not sure I love it. We still need a PG and now have a pile of SGs ahead of Jett.

Would be fine if other moves follow, IMO.

[Orl_Magic]

I feel like its going to be a boring trade deadline. Not only for us, but for the NBA.

Utah and Detroit just did a trade. This might be a slower trade deadline but who knows what could happen.