Who do you want us to take at #1?

[IllMagic04]

I've watched so much Chet but I just don't see it. And I want to see it cause I think he's gonna be the pick. I think he's gonna be good but number 1 pick good? I think he can be an excellent rim protector and shot blocker but if we cant play him at the 5 is he gonna be able to do that to the best of his ability? I guess he could as JI was a good shot blocker pre injury but I also dont see the quickness guarding the perimeter. If you watch Jabari guard on the perimeter theres a clear difference. Im not so sure Chet is gonna be as switchable as people think. Then theres the offense. Theres no real shot creation or great looking handles there. Does anyone believe that Chet can be a number 1 option offensively? If the answer is no then I just cant imagine picking him number 1 when the next guys have that kind of potential. Paolo more so then Jabari but Jabari too. Jabari can face up and shot over guys. Can Chet do that? He shot a crazy percentage in the paint which is great but it was a lot of ops and put backs. Not iso drives to the rim. If we pick Chet we are still in search of our alpha on the offensive side of the floor. Thats a tough place to be after being blessed with the number 1 pick. Make it make sense

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[BadMofoPimp]

I've watched so much Chet but I just don't see it. And I want to see it cause I think he's gonna be the pick. I think he's gonna be good but number 1 pick good? I think he can be an excellent rim protector and shot blocker but if we cant play him at the 5 is he gonna be able to do that to the best of his ability? I guess he could as JI was a good shot blocker pre injury but I also dont see the quickness guarding the perimeter. If you watch Jabari guard on the perimeter theres a clear difference. Im not so sure Chet is gonna be as switchable as people think. Then theres the offense. Theres no real shot creation or great looking handles there. Does anyone believe that Chet can be a number 1 option offensively? If the answer is no then I just cant imagine picking him number 1 when the next guys have that kind of potential. Paolo more so then Jabari but Jabari too. Jabari can face up and shot over guys. Can Chet do that? He shot a crazy percentage in the paint which is great but it was a lot of ops and put backs. Not iso drives to the rim. If we pick Chet we are still in search of our alpha on the offensive side of the floor. Thats a tough place to be after being blessed with the number 1 pick. Make it make sense

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Obviously, you haven't been watching the highlights . . .

They show the few times he did have moves.

[basketballRob]

Jabari is down to -155 and Banchero up to +400. Must have to do with Woo's report that we worked out Banchero.

Chet dropped a little to +170.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/nba?tab=nba-draft

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[axl_c_cool]

I'd be happy, but if that's the case you gotta trade back to the King's for him

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[axl_c_cool]

This, I'll be underwhelmed if he's the pick, he's 4th for me

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[basketballRob]

Looks like Paolo may overtake Chet soon for the second-best odds to be the #1 pick.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/nba?tab=nba-draft

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[RichCollab]

Chet is incoming…

[Magic_Kingdom]

Looks like Paolo may overtake Chet soon for the second-best odds to be the #1 pick.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/nba?tab=nba-draft

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Yeah, the odds for Paolo going #1 are skyrocketing. I think it has a lot to do with him being the only workout no one knew anything about. Maybe also the fact that he's been working with Mike Miller?

[KillMonger]

Smokescreen season in full effect.....now banchero is trending upwards....I'm just content that WE'RE the ones that have our pick of the litter instead of picking whatever is left

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[SOUL]

Looks like Paolo may overtake Chet soon for the second-best odds to be the #1 pick.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/nba?tab=nba-draft

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Yeah, the odds for Paolo going #1 are skyrocketing. I think it has a lot to do with him being the only workout no one knew anything about. Maybe also the fact that he's been working with Mike Miller?

Doesn't necessarily mean Magic are staying at #1 pick if Rockets are very interested or even OKC in moving up to get him.

[Dadouv47]

Looks like Paolo may overtake Chet soon for the second-best odds to be the #1 pick.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/nba?tab=nba-draft

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Yeah, the odds for Paolo going #1 are skyrocketing. I think it has a lot to do with him being the only workout no one knew anything about. Maybe also the fact that he's been working with Mike Miller?

Doesn't necessarily mean Magic are staying at #1 pick if Rockets are very interested or even OKC in moving up to get him.

doubt OKC would move up to pick Banchero. Doesn't make any sense to me (maybe the Rockets if they think OKC could pick him)

[SOUL]

doubt OKC would move up to pick Banchero. Doesn't make any sense to me (maybe the Rockets if they think OKC could pick him)

I don't see it likely either but I feel like this draft will be a strange one.

[rcklsscognition]

I'm picking Banchero.

[Sweet J]

Smith took 150 shots more to score 120 points more than Chet.

Being "better scorer" in this case just means being willing to throw ball in air more times. If you want scorer, draft Banchero. He scored more than Jabari, by also, just throwing more balls in air.

Generally to score more, you need to shoot more, so not sure where you are going with this

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[pepe1991]

Smith took 150 shots more to score 120 points more than Chet.

Being "better scorer" in this case just means being willing to throw ball in air more times. If you want scorer, draft Banchero. He scored more than Jabari, by also, just throwing more balls in air.

Generally to score more, you need to shoot more, so not sure where you are going with this

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There is fine line between quality and just quantity. That's why we use efficiency to determinate who puts counting numbers on quantity, and who puts points and adds value to offense.

Banchero is being penalized for being "just scorer" and Jabari is "advanced" by same people, yet both have identical eFG% , TS being only different due FT%.

Chet was miles ahead of both in terms of efficiency at college level.

[j_n]

Smith took 150 shots more to score 120 points more than Chet.

Being "better scorer" in this case just means being willing to throw ball in air more times. If you want scorer, draft Banchero. He scored more than Jabari, by also, just throwing more balls in air.

Generally to score more, you need to shoot more, so not sure where you are going with this

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There is fine line between quality and just quantity. That's why we use efficiency to determinate who puts counting numbers on quantity, and who puts points and adds value to offense.

Banchero is being penalized for being "just scorer" and Jabari is "advanced" by same people, yet both have identical eFG% , TS being only different due FT%.

Chet was miles ahead of both in terms of efficiency at college level.

Come on pepe, if someone else made that argument you would be the first one to point out the different roles on offense and the different attention that each prospect gets.
You don't actually believe that Chet is going to be a better scorer than Jabari right?

[pepe1991]

Generally to score more, you need to shoot more, so not sure where you are going with this

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There is fine line between quality and just quantity. That's why we use efficiency to determinate who puts counting numbers on quantity, and who puts points and adds value to offense.

Banchero is being penalized for being "just scorer" and Jabari is "advanced" by same people, yet both have identical eFG% , TS being only different due FT%.

Chet was miles ahead of both in terms of efficiency at college level.

Come on pepe, if someone else made that argument you would be the first one to point out the different roles on offense and the different attention that each prospect gets.
You don't actually believe that Chet is going to be a better scorer than Jabari right?

Jabari lives off bad shots. So does Paolo. You don't get extra points for making things harder for yourself than it should be.


I would rather have player that won't take bad shots in general.

[jezzerinho]

There is fine line between quality and just quantity. That's why we use efficiency to determinate who puts counting numbers on quantity, and who puts points and adds value to offense.

Banchero is being penalized for being "just scorer" and Jabari is "advanced" by same people, yet both have identical eFG% , TS being only different due FT%.

Chet was miles ahead of both in terms of efficiency at college level.

Come on pepe, if someone else made that argument you would be the first one to point out the different roles on offense and the different attention that each prospect gets.
You don't actually believe that Chet is going to be a better scorer than Jabari right?

Jabari lives off bad shots. So does Paolo. You don't get extra points for making things harder for yourself than it should be.


I would rather have player that won't take bad shots in general.

I agree.

FOs have to look a bit deeper than that tho.

Some guys are very efficient because they know their limitations. Those limitations could be very damaging to NBA success. In that instance, taking the efficient player could be a huge error.

Some guys are very efficient because they're being coached to play a defined role and arent allowed to stray from it. Knowing a player can be more than a role guy is pretty key at the top of the draft.

Some guys are efficient because they have a subservient personality and defer to others constantly.

Some guys are inefficient because they've been tasked with shouldering a disproportionate burden of the scoring. They therefore receive disproportionate defensive attention but have to try to score anyway.

Some guys are inefficient because they have a very full bag of tricks. Their self-confidence and ability level (and playing experience) conditions them to believe they can make any shot. The FO has to determine if they can be retrained to ID which shots to take and which to pass up.

I know this stuff is all pretty obvious, but the point being that if it were really the case that "efficient college player = GOOD" and "inefficient college player = BAD", the FOs would have a lot fewer players to choose from and would make even more errors than they do today.

Paolo is one of those guys where FOs either say
"I don't want him. He won't defend, he won't listen to coaching and he'll pad his stats to go get a big contract with a top market team"

or they'll say "this kid has everything. We just have to surround him with coaching and players who will polish the diamond to where we have a monster."

Either outcome is probably equally likely. Efficiency will just be a symptom of whichever personality type this kid has.

[j_n]

Jabari lives off bad shots. So does Paolo. You don't get extra points for making things harder for yourself than it should be.


I would rather have player that won't take bad shots in general.

Disagree, often times plays break and teams are forced to improvise, especially in the playoffs, in those situations it's very valuable to have guys that can make tough shots and carry the team during offensive droughts.

Jabari was forced to take some tough shots to carry his team's offense but it's not like he's notorious for taking low percentage shots, and his efficiency numbers prove that.

In general I don't think it makes much sense to compare efficiency scoring numbers between a #1 option and a pop/roll man that heavily relies on Oops and put backs to get his points.

[zaymon]

Come on pepe, if someone else made that argument you would be the first one to point out the different roles on offense and the different attention that each prospect gets.
You don't actually believe that Chet is going to be a better scorer than Jabari right?

Jabari lives off bad shots. So does Paolo. You don't get extra points for making things harder for yourself than it should be.


I would rather have player that won't take bad shots in general.

I agree.

FOs have to look a bit deeper than that tho.

Some guys are very efficient because they know their limitations. Those limitations could be very damaging to NBA success. In that instance, taking the efficient player could be a huge error.

Some guys are very efficient because they're being coached to play a defined role and arent allowed to stray from it. Knowing a player can be more than a role guy is pretty key at the top of the draft.

Some guys are efficient because they have a subservient personality and defer to others constantly.

Some guys are inefficient because they've been tasked with shouldering a disproportionate burden of the scoring. They therefore receive disproportionate defensive attention but have to try to score anyway.

Some guys are inefficient because they have a very full bag of tricks. Their self-confidence and ability level (and playing experience) conditions them to believe they can make any shot. The FO has to determine if they can be retrained to ID which shots to take and which to pass up.

I know this stuff is all pretty obvious, but the point being that if it were really the case that "efficient college player = GOOD" and "inefficient college player = BAD", the FOs would have a lot fewer players to choose from and would make even more errors than they do today.

Paolo is one of those guys where FOs either say
"I don't want him. He won't defend, he won't listen to coaching and he'll pad his stats to go get a big contract with a top market team"

or they'll say "this kid has everything. We just have to surround him with coaching and players who will polish the diamond to where we have a monster."

Either outcome is probably equally likely. Efficiency will just be a symptom of whichever personality type this kid has.

I dont agree that either outcome is equally likely. Banchero just led Duke to top 4 as a freshman. He showed different skills than in high school, despite being Duke's best player he couldnt show his full potential. From what i heard Duke defensive system is outdated.
To me Banchero is as good of a prospect sd "sure thing" Cade.