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Re: Around the NBA: 2018/2019 edition 

Post#1701 » by MoMM » Thu May 23, 2019 1:01 am

Bensational wrote:And if that player gets traded, they should lose that extra 'off the books' amount. That way, if a Jimmy Butler or Davis forces their way out, they're costing themselves money.

What if the team simply decide to trade them? That wouldn't be fair.
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Post#1702 » by Bensational » Thu May 23, 2019 1:34 am

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Bensational wrote:And if that player gets traded, they should lose that extra 'off the books' amount. That way, if a Jimmy Butler or Davis forces their way out, they're costing themselves money.

What if the team simply decide to trade them? That wouldn't be fair.


Give them no-trade clauses. Or, in the event they're traded, that extra $10-15M should begin to count against the cap of that team for the duration of that player's contract.

Everything should be set up to ensure the player and team do everything possible to fulfil that contract.
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Post#1703 » by pepe1991 » Thu May 23, 2019 6:07 am

Bensational wrote:The problem with supermax salaries is how much they kill the team's ability to add other talent. They need to limit how much is actually applied to the cap, say the max amount of $35M or whatever, and everything above that doesn't count against the cap. But teams should be limited to just one of those salaries, so you can't have Curry and Durant, for example, getting paid $50M each, but only counting for $70M total on the books. And if that player gets traded, they should lose that extra 'off the books' amount. That way, if a Jimmy Butler or Davis forces their way out, they're costing themselves money.

Pick your franchise player, and pick them well. And players, pick your team, and pick it well.


Imo it could be solved if part of megamax counts against cap. ( saw now you said it on other post 8-) )
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Post#1704 » by pepe1991 » Thu May 23, 2019 6:50 am

"The 51st pick, to the New Jersey Nets," Korver began, recounting the day he was drafted in 2003. "I found out shortly afterwards that I had been traded to Philly. I'm not sure if traded is the right word.

"I was more or less sold for an undisclosed amount of money. I later found out (the Nets) used that money to pay for the entry fee for their summer league team, and with the leftover money, they bought a copy machine."

No, Korver wasn't joking.

"But it's OK," he continued. "Because a couple of years ago, that copy machine broke. And I'm still playing."
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Post#1705 » by paperboymafia » Thu May 23, 2019 10:12 am

pepe1991 wrote:"The 51st pick, to the New Jersey Nets," Korver began, recounting the day he was drafted in 2003. "I found out shortly afterwards that I had been traded to Philly. I'm not sure if traded is the right word.

"I was more or less sold for an undisclosed amount of money. I later found out (the Nets) used that money to pay for the entry fee for their summer league team, and with the leftover money, they bought a copy machine."

No, Korver wasn't joking.

"But it's OK," he continued. "Because a couple of years ago, that copy machine broke. And I'm still playing."



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Post#1706 » by ezzzp » Thu May 23, 2019 3:19 pm

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Post#1707 » by pepe1991 » Thu May 23, 2019 4:19 pm

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TUrner is first leader in blocks who didn't get into all nba def team in lasta 8,9 years at least
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Post#1708 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu May 23, 2019 7:21 pm

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YIKES.... these supermax deals but the hometown team in a HUGE BIND. Either pay the man and screw Cap space or have him ask for a trade and become disgruntled because you didn't offer the supermax.

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Post#1709 » by p0peye » Thu May 23, 2019 8:20 pm

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TUrner is first leader in blocks who didn't get into all nba def team in lasta 8,9 years at least


Because blocks aren't truly indicator of a good defense? :dontknow:
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Post#1710 » by ezzzp » Thu May 23, 2019 9:38 pm

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TUrner is first leader in blocks who didn't get into all nba def team in lasta 8,9 years at least


Because blocks aren't truly indicator of a good defense? :dontknow:


Its true, blocks aren't an indicator of good defense. You do have to look at them within the team context...similar to PPG on bad team and/or unit playing at a high pace.

But since Indiana had the #3 best defense in the NBA and he played in all three of their most used and best lineups, its fairly safe to say he likely wasn't undisciplined / breaking the defense chasing highlight blocks...and instead more likely his blocks/rim protection was key part of its success.
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Post#1711 » by p0peye » Thu May 23, 2019 9:41 pm

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p0peye wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
TUrner is first leader in blocks who didn't get into all nba def team in lasta 8,9 years at least


Because blocks aren't truly indicator of a good defense? :dontknow:


Its true, blocks aren't an indicator of good defense. You do have to look at them within the team context...similar to PPG on bad team and/or unit playing at a high pace.

But since Indiana had the #3 best defense in the NBA and he played in all three of their most used and best lineups, its fairly safe to say he likely wasn't undisciplined / breaking the defense chasing highlight blocks...and instead more likely his blocks/rim protection was key part of its success.


Could be, I don't really watch Pacers. Just saying that blocks aren't necessarily good defense, and perhaps, that Turner isn't someone that crosses my mind as elite defender.
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Post#1712 » by ezzzp » Thu May 23, 2019 9:55 pm

p0peye wrote:
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Because blocks aren't truly indicator of a good defense? :dontknow:


Its true, blocks aren't an indicator of good defense. You do have to look at them within the team context...similar to PPG on bad team and/or unit playing at a high pace.

But since Indiana had the #3 best defense in the NBA and he played in all three of their most used and best lineups, its fairly safe to say he likely wasn't undisciplined / breaking the defense chasing highlight blocks...and instead more likely his blocks/rim protection was key part of its success.


Could be, I don't really watch Pacers. Just saying that blocks aren't necessarily good defense, and perhaps, that Turner isn't someone that crosses my mind as elite defender.


Yea without team context, I agree with your blocks statement.

Turner is a good defender...103.6 Defensive Rating within a 106.9 DRtg team context. He impacted his opponents by making them shoot -2.9 lower than their normal overall FG%. Inside of 6' he really had an impact dropping them -8.0 below their normal FG% in that zone. On the perimeter he was solid with a -0.9 impact.
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Post#1713 » by woosah » Fri May 24, 2019 3:03 am

Bledsoe overrated ##@$

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Post#1714 » by SOUL » Fri May 24, 2019 3:04 am

woosah wrote:Bledsoe overrated ##@$

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Ah yes the Bledsoe debate days :lol:

He had a really good season but a lot of that was because of Giannis and company.
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Post#1715 » by woosah » Fri May 24, 2019 3:08 am

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woosah wrote:Bledsoe overrated ##@$

Bucks in twouble


Ah yes the Bledsoe debate days :lol:

He had a really good season but a lot of that was because of Giannis and company.

haha you know i was never a fan

it's not all on him though but ugh.
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Post#1716 » by Hogified05 » Fri May 24, 2019 3:17 am

Becoming obvious Giannis isn't quite ready. Kawhi been through it. Giannis hasn't. Giannis still limited. These scars will be good for him in the long run.

Now I think this series is on Coach Bud. He has had Giannis on Marc Gasol. WTF? Potential DPOY only like 3 or 4 guys in the whole league that could slow down Kawhi and he is one of them. Am I missing something? Is Lopez not cable of guarding Gasol? Seems like a good match up. Lopez on Pascal? When Kawhi is cooking but Giannis on him, he should be on him the whole game unless he is in foul trouble. Classic case of over coaching man.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2018/2019 edition 

Post#1717 » by KillMonger » Fri May 24, 2019 3:56 am

If raptors win the series man it's hard to see them putting up a fight with golden state.

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Post#1718 » by pepe1991 » Fri May 24, 2019 5:21 am

My boy Vleet proving me wrong :lol:

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Post#1719 » by pepe1991 » Fri May 24, 2019 6:18 am

p0peye wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
ezzzp wrote:
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TUrner is first leader in blocks who didn't get into all nba def team in lasta 8,9 years at least


Because blocks aren't truly indicator of a good defense? :dontknow:


I would normally agree, but this is odd, Pacers were elite defensive team and he is their best defender , who just happends to lead league in blocks. Yet he got snubbed.
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Post#1720 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri May 24, 2019 1:07 pm

How quickly things turn. Bucks were moments away from a 3-0 lead, couldn't close it out and now are down 3-2 and in danger of being eliminated. Tor supporting cast finally showed up after some horrific performances and I always felt the Bucks needed more firepower than Bledsoe, Middleton, Lopez and the rest.
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