Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread

[pepe1991]

He is one of 6 players in entire nba history to average +20 ppg and +11 apgs .

I'm also interested to know would Victor get some votes for all nba 3rd team .
Will NBA's PR team figure they have guy who can literally be future GOAT type player and throw him into a fire from day one?

He would be first rookie since Duncan to achive it. Before him Hakeem. Before him Jordan. Even Lebron didn't get that. ( 99% Victor also won't due team's record tho)

Pretty sure Hakeem and Jordan were drafted the same year.

That was the famous Sam Bowie draft.

My favorite story from that draft is that when Blazer management was asking outside experts who to draft the consensus was Jordan.

Blazer management then said: but we need a center.

The response was "then draft Jordan and play him at center"

Yea, Hakeem made it in sophmore year (1986) , Jordan did it in first year. But i guess it's important to point out that in 1986 there was no all nba -third team.

As for Blazers, imagine if they drafted Jordan and started Clyde and Jordan ?

Starting 5 of : Jordan, Clyde ,Vandeweghe , Mychal Thompson and Paxon? From gates Jordan + 3 allstars + Thompson ( former 1# pick, two times champion, very underrated player. Klay's father )

[Residual-Heat]

https://www.nba.com/magic/news/orlando-magic-prioritizing-quality-over-quantity-when-it-comes-to-3-point-shooting-20240304

that's really interesting and positive development, but...

-what if we had one or two guys hitting over 40%?
-what if we had guys that could make them at our new average 3pt% without having to be >7' away from a defender?

This is really good news, but kind of supports my theory that our shooters are really not as good as they look because they only take wide-open shots. There's really nobody that hunts shots and curls off of picks and pulls up like a JJ-type. Hawkins looked like that kind of shooter...maybe Jett is too. Houstan and Suggs are getting nicely aggressive with their shooting (and still converting at a nice %) but mostly, we're still looking at a ton of open shots and now we're making some.

THIS IS VERY GOOD...but could be better. Not a negative - but also a sign of what's possible, given our recognition of Paolo & Franz' gravity. Take the next step FO - you are seeing the data. Imagine how well a guy like Simons (for example), who already hits a high pct on high volume on a team where HE is the primary defensive priority, could do in this situation. He'd go for 50%.

I think Grayson Allen is an example of this, he's always been a good shooter, but put him on the floor with HOFers and he's feasting.

You could argue that for the most part, our shooters are doing what they're supposed to. This is how Mosely wants to play. Im sure replacing Fultz/Black with Simons improves out 3 pt shooting, but at the end of the day he doesnt want the team to take a lot of 3s.

Harris has started the year cold, but since been shooting the ball really well. I see Allen mentioned a lot here, but TBH i dont see him as a huge upgrade over Harris.

[BadMofoPimp]

I haven't even considered this. Are we already there?

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We are six wins away from 41....

We are 9 more after that from 50.

We have 20 games to go......

You mean Magic have to win 15 out of the next 20? Sign me up!

Still gotta play Bucks twice, LA, Knicks twice, Pacers twice, Kings, Pelicans twice and Philly 2nd to last game. So, it is possible, but not probable.

[JoshuaPotter]

I haven't even considered this. Are we already there?

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We are six wins away from 41....

We are 9 more after that from 50.

We have 20 games to go......

You mean Magic have to win 15 out of the next 20? Sign me up!

Still gotta play Bucks twice, LA, Knicks twice, Pacers twice, Kings, Pelicans twice and Philly 2nd to last game. So, it is possible, but not probable.

Magic gonna prove you wrong!

[Residual-Heat]

Last 3 games are against Bucks and Sixers. You wonder if Giannis/Dame/Embiid even play in those games.

I doubt they get to 50 wins, but 45+ wins and the 4th/5th seed would be a great outcome for the Magic.

[BadMofoPimp]

Magic in top 10 on offense and defense last 10 games. Top 5 on offense.

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[Magic#1]

Last 3 games are against Bucks and Sixers. You wonder if Giannis/Dame/Embiid even play in those games.

I doubt they get to 50 wins, but 45+ wins and the 4th/5th seed would be a great outcome for the Magic.

4-8 are so tight right now it's hard to predict. But we do have two things on our side: schedule and health. I'll be satisfied with we stay out of the play-in. But with Embiid out and NY still dealing with some injuries, 4-5 is definitely in play. We just have to stay healthy and keep at the pace we're at.

[KillMonger]

Some thoughts....

AB has gone back to human victory flag status. Of which I do not see a pathway to him recovering if Fultz does as good as he does last night as the norm. Which is possible.

Amen Thompson looks bad. Both watching him and his brother are yikes.

Outside looking in, if you were Utah and you drafted Hendricks, do you now wish that Amen / Black / Assaur were available instead? Just a food for thought moment.

Nah, I'd be content with what I've seen from Hendricks if I'm Utah. He's gonna take time, but he's showing flashes of real potential imo.

Hendricks and Keyonte look very good. If that had been our draft that would not have been my first choice but it would be as one says "interesting".

The other challenge here being the elephant in the room. I am not sure either player cracks are lineup due to how far down "win now" mode we are in. It would just be interesting as in one hand I don't want Fultz to do bad, yet in the other I want to see our invested picks play and I do not see a reason to do that.

I am making a mountain out of a 1 good game molehill in Fultz.

It's interesting that some of the posters here judge markelle off of his play.... I don't think that was in question at least for me.....the future of markelle on this team is whether or not you believe he can stay healthy be reliable, not in and out of the lineup..... For me I've seen enough and don't want him brought back team friendly deal or not....to me if you bring him back on a bench role you may as well trade AB, to me you can't keep both

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[RookieStar]

Last 3 games are against Bucks and Sixers. You wonder if Giannis/Dame/Embiid even play in those games.

I doubt they get to 50 wins, but 45+ wins and the 4th/5th seed would be a great outcome for the Magic.

You also ask if we do play out regular guys as well. You would think with injury concerns of JI and Fultz, tired body of Jingles, the blood-loss of Franz (lol) FO would want them safe and rested for the next stage rather than battling it out still.

Especially if they gameplan the seedings already

[Residual-Heat]

Last 3 games are against Bucks and Sixers. You wonder if Giannis/Dame/Embiid even play in those games.

I doubt they get to 50 wins, but 45+ wins and the 4th/5th seed would be a great outcome for the Magic.

You also ask if we do play out regular guys as well. You would think with injury concerns of JI and Fultz, tired body of Jingles, the blood-loss of Franz (lol) FO would want them safe and rested for the next stage rather than battling it out still.

Especially if they gameplan the seedings already

I cant see us resting bench guys. JI maybe. Fultz has had enough rest this season. Everyone else has to play and play extra hard so that we can give our starters less minutes.

[byeganyo]

I don't see it

all nba first team is alredy set, it's MVP race: Giannis, Jokic, Luka, Tatum ,SGA

second team is probably some of : Curry, Haliburton, Durant, Kawhi , Edwards

putting third team is nasty challenge. Brown due record is instant lock. Lebron due history is instant lock. Mitchell should probably be in 2# team so that's third lock. Devin Booker is 6th in scoring 11th in assists, so that's probably lock as well.

Competition for 5th spot : DPOY race members ( Gobert, Chet, Victor, Adebayo) ; Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler , Fox & Sabonis (already allstar snubs), Maxey , Brunson ( my pick ) , Paul George , Lillard , Banchero etc.

Donovan can slip out if he does not play enough games. He needs to play 18 of remaining 22 games.

I dunno about Haliburton, he has been poor lately (14 pts on 38/31/81 last 10 games), maybe he is playing injured. The hype from the start of the season is still there, but if pacers miss the playoffs some how he may not make it.
If they havent switched the teams to just the 15 best players, banchero probably would have a better chance to get there, there are too many good guards...

He is one of 6 players in entire nba history to average +20 ppg and +11 apgs .

I'm also interested to know would Victor get some votes for all nba 3rd team .
Will NBA's PR team figure they have guy who can literally be future GOAT type player and throw him into a fire from day one?

He would be first rookie since Duncan to achive it. Before him Hakeem. Before him Jordan. Even Lebron didn't get that. ( 99% Victor also won't due team's record tho)

I doubt he gets in, as you said people tend not to vote for rookies - Luka had 21/8/6 saeason as a rookie and he got 1 (out of 100) vote, i just checked.

[RookieStar]

Last 3 games are against Bucks and Sixers. You wonder if Giannis/Dame/Embiid even play in those games.

I doubt they get to 50 wins, but 45+ wins and the 4th/5th seed would be a great outcome for the Magic.

You also ask if we do play out regular guys as well. You would think with injury concerns of JI and Fultz, tired body of Jingles, the blood-loss of Franz (lol) FO would want them safe and rested for the next stage rather than battling it out still.

Especially if they gameplan the seedings already

I cant see us resting bench guys. JI maybe. Fultz has had enough rest this season. Everyone else has to play and play extra hard so that we can give our starters less minutes.

If we were in playin territory with a chance for outright PO spot theb yeah, i exepect we still fight tooth and nail.

However, if we already cemented our spot and an extra win or 2 wont matter, then i exepct our main guys to rest and prepare.

[drsd]

However, if we already cemented our spot and an extra win or 2 wont matter, then i exepct our main guys to rest and prepare.

And-1

I can see a scenario were Admiral Schofield, Jett Howard, Chuma Okeke, Trevelin Queen, and Caleb Houstan are major minutes players in game 82 against Marques Bolden, Lindell Wigginton, TyTy Washington, Chris Livingston, and Thanasis Antetokounmpo to see if Orlado wins game 50. It will be epic!

[eyriq]

Magic 8.5 point favorites against Charlotte

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Love Vuc, but feel like he's destined to be in NBA purgatory teams because he's always default top 3 option while never getting to the line and not shooting threes good enough and not even shooting his middies as well anymore.

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Love Vuc, but feel like he's destined to be in NBA purgatory teams because he's always default top 3 option while never getting to the line and not shooting threes good enough and not even shooting his middies as well anymore.

Bring him home!!!!

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Love Vuc, but feel like he's destined to be in NBA purgatory teams because he's always default top 3 option while never getting to the line and not shooting threes good enough and not even shooting his middies as well anymore.

Bring him home!!!!

[tooler]

It's neat that we have the 7th best home record in the NBA. We've played fewer games than some teams but even if we lost 3 games in a row we'd be 9th.

[pepe1991]

Bulls won last quater 36-18 and won a game

Kings really have problems when their 3 ball stops falling.
In 4th , tonight, they went 0-6.

Their playoffs vs Warriors played in similar fashion last year.

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Love Vuc, but feel like he's destined to be in NBA purgatory teams because he's always default top 3 option while never getting to the line and not shooting threes good enough and not even shooting his middies as well anymore.

Poor guy is still upset he had to leave Orlando, i don't blame him especially since we're doing good now.