Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0

[eyriq]

Offer all of our 1st round picks, 2nd round picks, and use ALL CAP MONEY to purchase a time machine and prevent JI from getting hurt. Let the rest of history play out the way it did, and when we get back to 2023-2024 we will have the real JI and all is good in the world. We just need to find that time machine....

Imagine he's healthy going forward...

[eyriq]

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This is why a potential Claxton signing makes so much sense.

The identity is defense with a player like Paolo who grinds you out of the game.

We have 4 more years of this via the coach extension. I don't know how much harder it can be telegraphed.

I am fairly confident based on who was on the board, we picked up Black and immediately said he is defensively ready draft night.

We have 2 offensive spark plug types
Mo, Cole (in a horrible down year).

To imagine anything else or that we wont double down on it, feels.....off.

Yup. The plan seems telegraphed at this stage.

[AaronB]

I will say, everyone criticized CJ McCollum about his defense and New Orleans playing pretty good with him.

CJ has gotten worse since turning 28, but until then he was mostly league average or slightly below.

Simons is in a completely different Area Code. EPM has him spending most of his career as a -3+ DEPM. This matches the eye test. CJ has never once in his career, even as he ages, been as low as a -2.

People rationalize Simons all that they want and say it is possible he could improve in another environment.

Yes, it is possible.

It is also possible that monkeys could also fly out of my but (a quantum theory possibility), but it is not very probable.

i will also say, a lot of defensive stats are reliant on the team on the floor and Portland has never had a good defensive team.

What part of "stats matching the eye test" do you not understand?

Anyone who watches multiple games (I have) can see that Simons is terrible defensively. Everything from effort to understanding to application. He plays smaller than he is and does not move his feet with any consistency.

He has been in the league for years and has had 2 coaches with many qualified assistants and he is still terrible.

[tiderulz]

CJ has gotten worse since turning 28, but until then he was mostly league average or slightly below.

Simons is in a completely different Area Code. EPM has him spending most of his career as a -3+ DEPM. This matches the eye test. CJ has never once in his career, even as he ages, been as low as a -2.

People rationalize Simons all that they want and say it is possible he could improve in another environment.

Yes, it is possible.

It is also possible that monkeys could also fly out of my but (a quantum theory possibility), but it is not very probable.

i will also say, a lot of defensive stats are reliant on the team on the floor and Portland has never had a good defensive team.

What part of "stats matching the eye test" do you not understand?

Anyone who watches multiple games (I have) can see that Simons is terrible defensively. Everything from effort to understanding to application. He plays smaller than he is and does not move his feet with any consistency.

He has been in the league for years and has had 2 coaches with many qualified assistants and he is still terrible.

considering Portland has had bad defensive teams for years, could part of it be coaching?

[eyriq]

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[Bensational]

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This is why a potential Claxton signing makes so much sense.

The identity is defense with a player like Paolo who grinds you out of the game.

We have 4 more years of this via the coach extension. I don't know how much harder it can be telegraphed.

I am fairly confident based on who was on the board, we picked up Black and immediately said he is defensively ready draft night.

We have 2 offensive spark plug types
Mo, Cole (in a horrible down year).

To imagine anything else or that we wont double down on it, feels.....off.

Adding to that:

- Jett and Houstan could be more spark plug scorer/shooters for us.

- Goga, whilst not great, is very good and undervalued. He has established chemistry with the team, and established success. My best guess on why he isn’t playing more right now is WCJ being on a larger contract plus his advantages as a more versatile player in general. I’m very confident Goga is brought back with a view to take the starting spot from WCJ within a season or two.

I think management know they still have another season at least where they can allow the young guys to develop without compromising financial flexibility. Any additions they look to make will be in that Ingles/Harris/Moe Wagner capacity of reliable but not precious about minutes, who won’t demand to dominate possessions.

Contention moves probably don’t happen until the team hits the 2nd round, or a ceiling in the first round.

[davey_wavy]

Offer all of our 1st round picks, 2nd round picks, and use ALL CAP MONEY to purchase a time machine and prevent JI from getting hurt. Let the rest of history play out the way it did, and when we get back to 2023-2024 we will have the real JI and all is good in the world. We just need to find that time machine....

Objectives

- Find time machine
- Invent time machine if none can be found
- Find cure for JI injury issues
- Invent treatment / cure for JI injury issues
- Deployment initiative, include sports almanac for JI so he knows what games to sit out
- Hope that we didn't just simulate back to the future pt2
- Make sure that anyone with a gambling addiction doesn't get a hold of these plans

"Deployment initiative, include sports almanac for JI so he knows what games to sit out" is one of the greatest lines I've ever read on here. I spit out my Diet Coke

[Skybox]

Before I go to bed I want to leave y'all with the vision for this off-season:

AB replaces Fultz
Jett replaces Harris
Tyus replaces Cole
Claxton replaces WCJ
Caleb replaces Ingles

Sweet dreams

So why is AB getting DNPs, at this point, while the expiring guy who’s “out” is still first off the bench?

(Honest question)

[SloNick Russia]

The truth is we don't even have to trade for quality player with our cap situation.
For example Grayson Allen will be a FA and Phoenix can't bring him back. Dude is a 41% carrer 3 point shooter and fine player overall in his prime.

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[eyriq]

Before I go to bed I want to leave y'all with the vision for this off-season:

AB replaces Fultz
Jett replaces Harris
Tyus replaces Cole
Claxton replaces WCJ
Caleb replaces Ingles

Sweet dreams

So why is AB getting DNPs, at this point, while the expiring guy who’s “out” is still first off the bench?

(Honest question)

I don't know. I'm going to pull the "I was right about Keyonte so am probably always right about everything" card here and just say that it's a huge mistake to have AB out of the rotation.

[RichCollab]

New day; New roster

Monk / Black / Dunn
Suggs / Cole / Jett
Franz / Klay / Caleb
Paolo / WCJ / FRP
JI / Moe / Goga

[basketballRob]

I still don't think Monk is a starter. He's started like 7% of the games in his career. Grayson Allen has started 71% of his games and has been on better teams.

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[RichCollab]

I still don't think Monk is a starter. He's started like 7% of the games in his career. Grayson Allen has started 71% of his games and has been on better teams.

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We need Monks ability to create for himself and his athleticism.

Grayson is a 4th option

[Skybox]

I still don't think Monk is a starter. He's started like 7% of the games in his career. Grayson Allen has started 71% of his games and has been on better teams.

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We need Monks ability to create for himself and his athleticism.

Grayson is a 4th option

They’re such entirely different players…FO really has to decide what role they’re trying to fill first. Any debate between those two players is more of a debate about what we need. If we’re playing NO PG now because that’s how we want to go forward…then a guy like Grayson is a direct upgrade to what we’re putting next to Suggs right now…I personally think our present lineup reflects the fact that we don’t have a passable Lead Guard on the roster, so Mose is making do as best as he can.

I think we have a larger role than “elite spot up shooter” to fill. Monk is more of a Lead Guard with shooting, scoring, and offensive creation skills, but I just don’t know how much better he really is than Cole. He’s definitely better, but i question whether Monk, in a higher-profile/ higher exposure role is really going to elevate his game much more.

I think Monk is closer to what we need, but not good enough to throw down $20m + to try out.

Either would be an improvement, but I’m thinking we are now worthy of a bigger step.

[Residual-Heat]

Monk, Simons, Murray, Quickley. All these guys are obtainable.

Quickley is the least likely option. You have to overpay, and its probably going to take a big one. I would atleast try to offer him a contract, not sure how much. 27-30 mill/yr? If the Raptors match, and they likely will, so be it. He'd be a nice fit and i think he's good enough to be a solid PG for a contender (which is what we're aiming for).

Simons through trade. Blazers might be asking for too much. I dont mind overpaying a little bit if you believe in the player, but I wouldnt give up multiple picks and players. 2024 1st + 2025 1st? Jett and a 1st round pick?. Can he be our answer at PG? Probably if he can improve his defense a little bit.

Monk is an UFA and Kings cant offer him more than 20 mill/yr. Maybe offer him 22 mill/yr and dump Cole's 13 mill/yr contract. I am convinced he's a much better player than Anthony. Not sure if he's the answer we need at PG, but luckily we're not giving up anything for him. We can try him at PG, see how it works. If it doesnt work, we still have trade assets and we can move him to 6th man of the year role.

Murray would be the best player of among these 4. Im fine with his 3pt shooting being mediocre. I believe he would be the answer at PG for sure, and he's locked up on a long term contract. Will the Magic want him with his character concerns? IDK, but if they did trade for him, I think Mosley can manage him. Maybe bring in more vocal vets as well, like Ingles. Magic could offer 3 1st round picks if they have to.

All I know is we better end up with one of these guys.

[RichCollab]

Monk, Simons, Murray, Quickley. All these guys are obtainable.

Quickley is the least likely option. You have to overpay, and its probably going to take a big one. I would atleast try to offer him a contract, not sure how much. 27-30 mill/yr? If the Raptors match, and they likely will, so be it. He'd be a nice fit and i think he's good enough to be a solid PG for a contender (which is what we're aiming for).

Simons through trade. Blazers might be asking for too much. I dont mind overpaying a little bit if you believe in the player, but I wouldnt give up multiple picks and players. 2024 1st + 2025 1st? Jett and a 1st round pick?. Can he be our answer at PG? Probably if he can improve his defense a little bit.

Monk is an UFA and Kings cant offer him more than 20 mill/yr. Maybe offer him 22 mill/yr and dump Cole's 13 mill/yr contract. I am convinced he's a much better player than Anthony. Not sure if he's the answer we need at PG, but luckily we're not giving up anything for him. We can try him at PG, see how it works. If it doesnt work, we still have trade assets and we can move him to 6th man of the year role.

Murray would be the best player of among these 4. Im fine with his 3pt shooting being mediocre. I believe he would be the answer at PG for sure, and he's locked up on a long term contract. Will the Magic want him with his character concerns? IDK, but if they did trade for him, I think Mosley can manage him. Maybe bring in more vocal vets as well, like Ingles. Magic could offer 3 1st round picks if they have to.

All I know is we better end up with one of these guys.

I’m good with Quickley or Simmons but I don’t think either is available.

It will be interesting to see what ALT does with Murray. He has been really good with Trae out.

[Knightro]

Murray since Young got hurt (10 games)

26.6 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 8.2 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.4 BPG, 10.0-21.6 FG .463 FG%, 3.3-8.7 3PT, .379 3PT%, 3.3-4.5 FT, .733 FT%

They're 5-5.

[eyriq]

Murray since Young got hurt (10 games)

26.6 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 8.2 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.4 BPG, 10.0-21.6 FG .463 FG%, 3.3-8.7 3PT, .379 3PT%, 3.3-4.5 FT, .733 FT%

They're 5-5.

Them being constantly mid is hilarious

[thelead]

Murray since Young got hurt (10 games)

26.6 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 8.2 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.4 BPG, 10.0-21.6 FG .463 FG%, 3.3-8.7 3PT, .379 3PT%, 3.3-4.5 FT, .733 FT%

They're 5-5.

Predictable really. I don't think anyone will be surprised if they pivot to trade Young instead (they should). I'm still hoping we can somehow trade for Murray.

[RichCollab]

Spurs should trade for Young. Seems like a good fit.