Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues

[Skin]

Is it too early to get the tank hype train started??? My body is ready.

Barrett, Reddish, or Little. Trade Fournier or AG for a point please and thanks.

Langford is our guy my guy.

Still like Reddish myself.

[MagicFan101]

Barrett, Reddish, or Little. Trade Fournier or AG for a point please and thanks.

Langford is our guy my guy.

Still like Reddish myself.

Find a way to move any combination of Vuc, Evan, Ross and OKC pick needed to secure a legit starting PG and draft Barrett or Reddish.

Trade Aquisition, DJ
Barrett / Reddish, Frazier
Isaac, Simmons
AG, Martin
Bamba, Birch


All sins are forgiven.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Barrett, Reddish, or Little. Trade Fournier or AG for a point please and thanks.

Langford is our guy my guy.

Still like Reddish myself.

Reddish screams Rudy Gay to me which isnt bad per say, but think we will benefit more with Langfords game. Better shooter, defender and more upside in my eyes.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Langford is our guy my guy.

Still like Reddish myself.

Find a way to move any combination of Vuc, Evan, Ross and OKC pick needed to secure a legit starting PG and draft Barrett or Reddish.

Trade Aquisition, DJ
Barrett / Reddish, Frazier
Isaac, Simmons
AG, Martin
Bamba, Birch


All sins are forgiven.

Sorry bud I see no world where that package gets you a "legit starting PG" unless we're taking a lot of bad salary back.

I say let our guys expire, save our pennies and go after DAR/Rozer/Wright/Brogdon/Dinwiidie etc. this summer.

[MagicFan101]

Still like Reddish myself.

Find a way to move any combination of Vuc, Evan, Ross and OKC pick needed to secure a legit starting PG and draft Barrett or Reddish.

Trade Aquisition, DJ
Barrett / Reddish, Frazier
Isaac, Simmons
AG, Martin
Bamba, Birch


All sins are forgiven.

Sorry bud I see no world where that package gets you a "legit starting PG" unless we're taking a lot of bad salary back.

I say let our guys expire, save our pennies and go after DAR/Rozer/Wright/Brogdon/Dinwiidie etc. this summer.

What’s wrong with taking bad salary back in that scenario?

No contract coming back would last long enough to impact our ability to resign Isaac, Bamba or Barrett / Reddish and AG is already locked up.

We would have our start 5 of the future locked up.

You have to give something to get something. If we can secure a player we want via trade I will take that over hoping someone picks us in free agency.

[DiplomaticMagic]

I usually am against trading for a disgruntled star who is a pending free agent trying to rush the rebuild

But I feel like the bar for Jimmy Butler is so low that we can get him for a good deal even if he leaves next summer.

I know Jimmy has rubbed Wiggins and Towns wrong way, but feel like he will actually get along with BIG.

I would offer Minny Fournier and Simms for Butler and Tyus Jones. Even if he leaves, we shed Fourniers contract.

[Knightro]

I usually am against trading for a disgruntled star who is a pending free agent trying to rush the rebuild

But I feel like the bar for Jimmy Butler is so low that we can get him for a good deal even if he leaves next summer.

I know Jimmy has rubbed Wiggins and Towns wrong way, but feel like he will actually get along with BIG.

I would offer Minny Fournier and Simms for Butler and Tyus Jones. Even if he leaves, we shed Fourniers contract.

I’ve been thinking about this a lot here recently as well.

If you’re the Magic and you can get Butler without giving up Isaac, Bamba or your unprotected 2019 1st, don’t you just do it? Isn’t it worth doing even if Butler walks after the season simply on the fact you’d have to send out high priced salary to make the deal work in the first place?

Fournier, Vucevic’s expiring, Simmons and a lotto protected 2019 1st for Butler and Dieng?

I don’t love Dieng’s contract, but it wouldn’t kill future flexibility if they send out Fournier.

Magic get a whole season to convince Butler that he’s loved and appreciated and that the team is going in the right direction. And if he walks, they still got out of Evan’s deal anyway.

[rcklsscognition]

ESPN feature titled, "Which TV Drama is Most Like Your Team?"

This is ours:



Makes me wonder which one of our guys could squad up with our 3rd stringers and beat the starters?

[nicnac215]

ESPN feature titled, "Which TV Drama is Most Like Your Team?"

This is ours:



Makes me wonder which one of our guys could squad up with our 3rd stringers and beat the starters?

Issac because he would just lockdown whoever has the ball. No one on our team could score on him 1 on 1.

[rcklsscognition]

http://arizonasports.com/story/1694193/charles-barkley-magic-gm-job-suns-firing-ryan-mcdonough/

Imagine this: Charles Barkley, NBA general manager.

Asked by Bickley & Marotta if he’d ever want to lead an NBA team’s front office, the TNT studio analyst suggested the question didn’t lie outside reality.

“Number one, I thought I was going to be one last year, and I was really pissed I didn’t get the job,” Barkley said Tuesday on 98.7 FM Arizona’s Sports Station. “I would listen to certain people but I’m not sure at this stage in my life — but I did, I thought I had the job last year and it pissed me off. They hired another one of those analytical idiots instead of just getting the best players. That’s OK.”

Which job?

“Orlando.”

On May 23 of 2017, the Magic hired long-time NBA executive John Hammond from the Milwaukee Bucks instead of Barkley.

Never heard about this until today. Would have been a hoot to have him as GM.

[tiderulz]

I usually am against trading for a disgruntled star who is a pending free agent trying to rush the rebuild

But I feel like the bar for Jimmy Butler is so low that we can get him for a good deal even if he leaves next summer.

I know Jimmy has rubbed Wiggins and Towns wrong way, but feel like he will actually get along with BIG.

I would offer Minny Fournier and Simms for Butler and Tyus Jones. Even if he leaves, we shed Fourniers contract.

I’ve been thinking about this a lot here recently as well.

If you’re the Magic and you can get Butler without giving up Isaac, Bamba or your unprotected 2019 1st, don’t you just do it? Isn’t it worth doing even if Butler walks after the season simply on the fact you’d have to send out high priced salary to make the deal work in the first place?

Fournier, Vucevic’s expiring, Simmons and a lotto protected 2019 1st for Butler and Dieng?

I don’t love Dieng’s contract, but it wouldn’t kill future flexibility if they send out Fournier.

Magic get a whole season to convince Butler that he’s loved and appreciated and that the team is going in the right direction. And if he walks, they still got out of Evan’s deal anyway.

Butler at 30 on a 5 year max deal scares the @$%$% out of me. he has a lot of wear and tear on that body.

[tiderulz]

http://arizonasports.com/story/1694193/charles-barkley-magic-gm-job-suns-firing-ryan-mcdonough/

Imagine this: Charles Barkley, NBA general manager.

Asked by Bickley & Marotta if he’d ever want to lead an NBA team’s front office, the TNT studio analyst suggested the question didn’t lie outside reality.

“Number one, I thought I was going to be one last year, and I was really pissed I didn’t get the job,” Barkley said Tuesday on 98.7 FM Arizona’s Sports Station. “I would listen to certain people but I’m not sure at this stage in my life — but I did, I thought I had the job last year and it pissed me off. They hired another one of those analytical idiots instead of just getting the best players. That’s OK.”

Which job?

“Orlando.”

On May 23 of 2017, the Magic hired long-time NBA executive John Hammond from the Milwaukee Bucks instead of Barkley.

Never heard about this until today. Would have been a hoot to have him as GM.

Barkley from a different generation of players. I think he would fall on his face as a GM.

[magicman112]

http://arizonasports.com/story/1694193/charles-barkley-magic-gm-job-suns-firing-ryan-mcdonough/

Imagine this: Charles Barkley, NBA general manager.

Asked by Bickley & Marotta if he’d ever want to lead an NBA team’s front office, the TNT studio analyst suggested the question didn’t lie outside reality.

“Number one, I thought I was going to be one last year, and I was really pissed I didn’t get the job,” Barkley said Tuesday on 98.7 FM Arizona’s Sports Station. “I would listen to certain people but I’m not sure at this stage in my life — but I did, I thought I had the job last year and it pissed me off. They hired another one of those analytical idiots instead of just getting the best players. That’s OK.”

Which job?

“Orlando.”

On May 23 of 2017, the Magic hired long-time NBA executive John Hammond from the Milwaukee Bucks instead of Barkley.

Never heard about this until today. Would have been a hoot to have him as GM.

That would have been interesting. Though there was nothing reported about it in this day and age you figure something would have come out about it.

[Blue_and_Whte]

I usually am against trading for a disgruntled star who is a pending free agent trying to rush the rebuild

But I feel like the bar for Jimmy Butler is so low that we can get him for a good deal even if he leaves next summer.

I know Jimmy has rubbed Wiggins and Towns wrong way, but feel like he will actually get along with BIG.

I would offer Minny Fournier and Simms for Butler and Tyus Jones. Even if he leaves, we shed Fourniers contract.

I’ve been thinking about this a lot here recently as well.

If you’re the Magic and you can get Butler without giving up Isaac, Bamba or your unprotected 2019 1st, don’t you just do it? Isn’t it worth doing even if Butler walks after the season simply on the fact you’d have to send out high priced salary to make the deal work in the first place?

Fournier, Vucevic’s expiring, Simmons and a lotto protected 2019 1st for Butler and Dieng?

I don’t love Dieng’s contract, but it wouldn’t kill future flexibility if they send out Fournier.

Magic get a whole season to convince Butler that he’s loved and appreciated and that the team is going in the right direction. And if he walks, they still got out of Evan’s deal anyway.

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[Blue_and_Whte]

http://arizonasports.com/story/1694193/charles-barkley-magic-gm-job-suns-firing-ryan-mcdonough/

Imagine this: Charles Barkley, NBA general manager.

Asked by Bickley & Marotta if he’d ever want to lead an NBA team’s front office, the TNT studio analyst suggested the question didn’t lie outside reality.

“Number one, I thought I was going to be one last year, and I was really pissed I didn’t get the job,” Barkley said Tuesday on 98.7 FM Arizona’s Sports Station. “I would listen to certain people but I’m not sure at this stage in my life — but I did, I thought I had the job last year and it pissed me off. They hired another one of those analytical idiots instead of just getting the best players. That’s OK.”

Which job?

“Orlando.”

On May 23 of 2017, the Magic hired long-time NBA executive John Hammond from the Milwaukee Bucks instead of Barkley.

Never heard about this until today. Would have been a hoot to have him as GM.

Barkley from a different generation of players. I think he would fall on his face as a GM.

I mean I kinda get it, if you're talking about prime Kobe then yeah they can shove their "analytics" but those are generational talents. You need to be more analytical when constructing the team you plan to put around an elite player so he shouldn't be so dismissive about it and he certainly shouldnt be calling other GM idiots if hes trying to get a job as a GM. Maybe he apply for the Sun gig?

[OrlandoNed]

http://arizonasports.com/story/1694193/charles-barkley-magic-gm-job-suns-firing-ryan-mcdonough/

Imagine this: Charles Barkley, NBA general manager.

Asked by Bickley & Marotta if he’d ever want to lead an NBA team’s front office, the TNT studio analyst suggested the question didn’t lie outside reality.

“Number one, I thought I was going to be one last year, and I was really pissed I didn’t get the job,” Barkley said Tuesday on 98.7 FM Arizona’s Sports Station. “I would listen to certain people but I’m not sure at this stage in my life — but I did, I thought I had the job last year and it pissed me off. They hired another one of those analytical idiots instead of just getting the best players. That’s OK.”

Which job?

“Orlando.”

On May 23 of 2017, the Magic hired long-time NBA executive John Hammond from the Milwaukee Bucks instead of Barkley.

Never heard about this until today. Would have been a hoot to have him as GM.

Oh my god, I wish we hired Barkley! That would of been such an entertaining train wreck.

[PennytoShaq]

I usually am against trading for a disgruntled star who is a pending free agent trying to rush the rebuild

But I feel like the bar for Jimmy Butler is so low that we can get him for a good deal even if he leaves next summer.

I know Jimmy has rubbed Wiggins and Towns wrong way, but feel like he will actually get along with BIG.

I would offer Minny Fournier and Simms for Butler and Tyus Jones. Even if he leaves, we shed Fourniers contract.

I’ve been thinking about this a lot here recently as well.

If you’re the Magic and you can get Butler without giving up Isaac, Bamba or your unprotected 2019 1st, don’t you just do it? Isn’t it worth doing even if Butler walks after the season simply on the fact you’d have to send out high priced salary to make the deal work in the first place?

Fournier, Vucevic’s expiring, Simmons and a lotto protected 2019 1st for Butler and Dieng?

I don’t love Dieng’s contract, but it wouldn’t kill future flexibility if they send out Fournier.

Magic get a whole season to convince Butler that he’s loved and appreciated and that the team is going in the right direction. And if he walks, they still got out of Evan’s deal anyway.

Yes this is what I am thinking as well. I think Minny is simply asking too much. They probably want AG, and we need him if we get Butler.

Worst case is we lose JB, but that’s a huge salary that comes off the books. He could end up liking this team a lot. Grant/JB/AG/JI and Mo is a legit starting lineup that could go into the playoffs and make noise. Plus we have the heart and hustle bench that will be dogs out there.

I think Minny wants our first and AG, which would kill us. We could do our first plus Evan and Vuc for Dieng and JB. That should work in the trade machine.

[FFBlitzace]

Sounds more like Barkley lost the job to Weltman, not Hammond. I don't think Hammond competed with anyone. Weltman brought him in immediately after being hired. I think this is another case of someone not knowing that Hammond isn't the guy at the top of our pecking order. He's just the name that these goons know.

[Nemesis21]

Bottom of the league,

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24949922/high-noon-pablo-torre-bomani-jones-preview-2018-19-nba-season-dramas

scroll down to bottom

[MagicFan101]

I usually am against trading for a disgruntled star who is a pending free agent trying to rush the rebuild

But I feel like the bar for Jimmy Butler is so low that we can get him for a good deal even if he leaves next summer.

I know Jimmy has rubbed Wiggins and Towns wrong way, but feel like he will actually get along with BIG.

I would offer Minny Fournier and Simms for Butler and Tyus Jones. Even if he leaves, we shed Fourniers contract.

You’re not getting Butler without taking back Dieng. You’re definitely not getting Butler AND Jones without doing so.