Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIX: Trade Deadline cont.)

[Reverse_Angle]

Meant to green font (self-deprecate) that one, sorry lol ... That post was the last post on pg.9 and I felt like it got missed out

I agreed with it. I think every scenario can be an advantage if played right. i am not too worried about any player move. i just hope the organization handles this thing like a great franchise with championship aspirations and rich collective legacy would.

protecting the orlando magic brand is more important than anything, it will define our future. Are we gonna be the houston rockets or are we gonna be the boston celtics when they sucked for a half decade?

[MagicFan41]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA
Stan Van Gundy did something w/ Dwight few coaches ever do with superstars now: In public/private, he challenged him. He dared to coach him.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA
Dwight Howard doesn't see it, but will later: Van Gundy was the best thing to happen to his career. And, hey, Dwight was great for Stan too.

so true

I think this is a big part of why Stan is so visibly pissed at the whole Dwight thing. Stan literally got FINED on occasion for sticking up for Dwight, even so much so to the point that he had Stern lay the NBA-hammer down on him. Stan also coached Dwight to becoming one of the best defensive players of all time. Yet Dwight has seemingly thrown Stan under the bus in the media, and especially now.

[Nolimit1211]

Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
This morning, Carmelo Anthony was asked if he has demanded a trade. His response: "No, no, no, no. Let's nip this in the bud right now. No."

Alrite.......umm.. BYNUM! BYNUM! BYNUM!

[Howard Mass]

If The Magic do not deal Dwight, he goes to Brooklyn for nothing.

Trading him comes down to which teams are willing to rent him and which teams he is willing to go too.

If he only will re-sign with The Nets, then you need the renters to bid up.

If the renters don't bid up, The Nets might not offer much to make it worthwile.

[Driguez]

There is a ZERO chance that Dwight will be traded now. Because. . .

Dwight just stated that he has told the Magic he wants to stay for weeks.

Magic trade Dwight now, Magic look like the bad guy when Dwight wanted to stay all along.

Roll The Dice is the BEST OPTION. Otherwise, nobody will ever want to play for this franchise if we trade players that want to stay .

Wow, you are borderline delusional.

[arkknight1988]

we might as well have Dwight leave and have that salary come off the books in order to clear cap. The end of next season a lot of contracts will have expired or will become an expiring contract (trade chip). We'll also have a better draft pick.

We could clear even more cap and get picks if we trade Dwight now for Jersey's expirings (Okur, Humphries, Lopez) and send them Hedo as well. And potentially get picks back.

This is WAYYYY better than the capspace Dwight leaves us with by walking (not much considering we'll have to pay Ryno and BBD, Hedo, and Duhon still are owed $20+million next season)

we have to get players back also not just expirings. lopez and marshon need to be included.

[XonezIOIzenoX]

Trade Dwight right now when we have the chance!! I am saying this for the good of the franchise. This is not the Orlando Howard's, this is the Orlando Magic. Dwight Howard has not promise us that he will stay with Orlando Magic. He is teasing us so by free agency time he can sign with the Nets which will have the better pieces for the long term. We need to dump salary or else the dark ages will be darker here then it ever has since this franchise has started with these bad contracts on our team.

[RickB-Orlando]

This is really an easy decision: Keep Dwight. We are going to suck next year regardless. what, just because we have Brook Lopez we will make the playoffs? Umm, no we arent. and NJ picks arent going to be that great either. suck ass next year and in 2013 get a high draft pick. by that time Turk is tradeable at 6 mil only, trade J rich now for Beasley to get rid of that contract, Jameer is off the books. have the opportunity to sign a good FA that offseason and get a good draft pick. Whether we have Lopez and Marshon doesnt change the fact that we will still suck. We arent making the playoffs with those two. I have to think long term and that is to keep Dwight, let him walk, suck next year (which will suck), get a high draft pick and sign a solid FA and start rebuilding. This is the best option for us.

and im NOT taking Bynum on his 80 year old knees. i cringe everytime i see him go up for a rebound thinking his knee cap is going to bust.

This sounds like it makes a lot of sense to me.

I felt that way about Bynum and his knees at the start of the season. The fact that he's played night-in and night-out during this compressed season shows he can take a beating. I'd be fine with moving Dwight for Bynum at this point.

[Idunkonyou2]

If we traded Q-Rich and Duhon for Beasley... that'd be great. We could clear two undesirable contracts.

If JRich would stop injuring himself and Nelson was guaranteed to stay healthy, I would pull that trigger today. Beasley and Redick off the bench? That is good for a cool 30 points a night IMO.

[glennathan]

If we traded Q-Rich and Duhon for Beasley... that'd be great. We could clear two undesirable contracts.

I am all about keeping Q-Rich. I like what he brings to this team. I can easily do without Duhon and JRich.

[InFlames]

There is a ZERO chance that Dwight will be traded now. Because. . .

Dwight just stated that he has told the Magic he wants to stay for weeks.

Magic trade Dwight now, Magic look like the bad guy when Dwight wanted to stay all along.

Roll The Dice is the BEST OPTION. Otherwise, nobody will ever want to play for this franchise if we trade players that want to stay.

BMP I'm not even trying to get into it with you, I do respect you, but this is just crazy.

[trebone]

... Don't get me wrong.. I'm completely okay with trading Duhon... BUT recently he has been playing like a serviceable back up PG.. I don't mind keeping him

Did you even watch the game yesterday??? He was horrible, missing defense assignments turning the ball over and just playing terrible! His only saving grace is that he has hit a decent clip from three, other than that he would not see court time on any other team!

[Nyce_1]

... Don't get me wrong.. I'm completely okay with trading Duhon... BUT recently he has been playing like a serviceable back up PG.. I don't mind keeping him

Think big picture. He's been decent lately, but his contract still blows.

[J-Ville Smoke]

I wonder if the people who want Dwight to stay the whole year understand what an asset is in regards to a business, or if they understand the stock market at all. Or if they have ever heard of loss aversion bias, or the gambler's fallacy, or sunk cost, or any other things.

People who think we should keep Dwight are the stockbrokers who see a stock slowly falling daily yet refuse to sell because

a) They've already held on to it forever
b) it has to come back up at some point, right?

Both of which are flat out the wrong strategy/way of thinking.

[ADRajX]

Woops, meant to green font (self-deprecate) that one, sorry lol ... That post was the last one on pg.9 and I felt like it got missed out

I agreed with it. I think every scenario can be an advantage if played right. i am not too worried about any player move. i just hope the organization handles this thing like a great franchise with championship aspirations and rich collective legacy would.

protecting the orlando magic brand is more important than anything, it will define our future. Are we gonna be the houston rockets or are we gonna be the boston celtics when they sucked for a half decade?

Exactly. I was too worked up on trading Dwight last night... saying that we should get something in return for him; I was missing the big picture... he's gone... he's going to be gone anyway, whether we trade him or not.

When Dwight leaves, we aren't contenders anymore. I'd rather us tank and be a bottom team that gets a high pick than a mediocre/.500 team that got back Lopez and Brooks (or some other package).

Preferably if there IS a Dwight trade package (probably from a rental team) that is stellar and keeps us competitive (top 4 team in the East), I would do it!

But now I'm more open to the situation. I think we all shouldn't argue over whether we should trade Howard or keep him for the rest of the season (we all know he'll leave this summer). He's leaving anyway. It's time for us to look toward the future and rebuild (draft, clear cap, sign FAs).

It's about the Magic franchise, not Dwight. We have to do what's best for the franchise at all times.

[NEM]

Dwight, duhon, and turk for melo and chandler... Works for both teams...

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[RickB-Orlando]

Otis make this happen
Either ways.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6vas6xy
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6mvwjhj

Well, that's cute, but totally unrealistic. Still cute though.

[Nolimit1211]

Dwight, duhon, and turk for melo and chandler... Works for both teams...

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Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
Carmelo: "I don't know where that came from. I'm tired of hearing it. ... I'm tired of anonymous sources. I don't want to be traded."

Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
This morning, Carmelo Anthony was asked if he has demanded a trade. His response: "No, no, no, no. Let's nip this in the bud right now. No."

[jezzer45]

why cant orlando ever get a good trade in. Seems a lot of teams are interested in beasley including houston.

[ZeusIsLoose]

This is really an easy decision: Keep Dwight. We are going to suck next year regardless. what, just because we have Brook Lopez we will make the playoffs? Umm, no we arent. and NJ picks arent going to be that great either. suck ass next year and in 2013 get a high draft pick. by that time Turk is tradeable at 6 mil only, trade J rich now for Beasley to get rid of that contract, Jameer is off the books. have the opportunity to sign a good FA that offseason and get a good draft pick. Whether we have Lopez and Marshon doesnt change the fact that we will still suck. We arent making the playoffs with those two. I have to think long term and that is to keep Dwight, let him walk, suck next year (which will suck), get a high draft pick and sign a solid FA and start rebuilding. This is the best option for us.

and im NOT taking Bynum on his 80 year old knees. i cringe everytime i see him go up for a rebound thinking his knee cap is going to bust.

This sounds like it makes a lot of sense to me.

I felt that way about Bynum and his knees at the start of the season. The fact that he's played night-in and night-out during this compressed season shows he can take a beating. I'd be fine with moving Dwight for Bynum at this point.

NO NO NO NO NO! Bynum = risk. keeping Dwight = risk. Bynum risk > Keeping Dwight risk