Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXII Off-Season Edition)

BadMofoPimp · Post #181 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:38 pm

I wouldn't put it past Devos to have told the Nets to go screw themselves. At this point, I reckon he has had it with players demanding to go wherever they want.

What incentive does Devos have in actually trading Dwight to the Nets? None. He can force Dwight to sit out the year and still be no worse for wear than if he did trade Dwight to the Nets. Magic will suck either way and may get a better Draft Pick by forcing Dwight to walk. Don't give Dwight his cake and let him eat it too. Especially, after he insults the owners and fans of Orlando.

thelead · Post #182 » by **thelead** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:39 pm

By the time we're ready to compete again, Nelson will be retired. It's not Rob's fault but he's certainly piling on here. A better turnaround here would have been to trade Dwight for Bynum trade everything else away for expirings, get a solid lotto pick, and sign a few free agents with your cap space.

Bynum
BBD
FA (Josh Smith)
Lotto pick (Shabazz)
FA (Monta)

That sounds like a good rebuild plan.

Idunkonyou2 · Post #183 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:40 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
Ken Berger @KBergCBS
Sources: The Nets and Magic "still plugging away" at possible Dwight Howard trade. #NBA http://t.co/yLNIrByD

I don't even know how that is possible. They would have to send back 20 million in contracts to us (Lopez resigned, KH resigned and Brooks).

jezzer45 · Post #184 » by **jezzer45** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:40 pm

i like the jameer resigning. with the way everyone is getting paid there was no way to get a starting pg for under 7 mil at 4 years.

Skin · Post #185 » by **Skin** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:41 pm

mhectorgato wrote:
Skin wrote:
mhectorgato wrote:Link? Source?

FWIW - Your opinion of the situation doesn't qualify as a factual source.

The fact that there isn't a single link, source or tweet about ANY other team wanting, going after or showing interest in Jameer says it all. Show me one and I'll back track my statement.

I just hope his money isn't 3 years, $19M. Please tell me that ain't so.

In the other thread there's an on radio report that Portland inquired about Jameer.

Damian Lillard says Hi. Portland wasn't going to give him $20M. You know that. We paid him out of loyalty and desperation. I just hope it was extremely front loaded like you said in the other thread.

OrlandO · Post #186 » by **OrlandO** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:41 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
Ken Berger @KBergCBS
Sources: The Nets and Magic "still plugging away" at possible Dwight Howard trade. #NBA http://t.co/yLNIrByD

He also mentions the lakers again. If we're going to trade between those two, it better be for Bynum. Nets haul is utter garbage.

Magicalltheway · Post #187 » by **Magicalltheway** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:42 pm

Ken Berger:League source on Nets reworking Teletovic deal, alleviating hard cap and enhancing Dwight Howard trade prospects: "It's beyond huge."now

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1zm7GWw1J

Nyce_1 · Post #188 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:42 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
Ken Berger @KBergCBS
Sources: The Nets and Magic "still plugging away" at possible Dwight Howard trade. #NBA http://t.co/yLNIrByD

Also says Lakers are in play and both are trying to find a 3rd team to take JRich and/or Turk.

MagicTownBaller · Post #189 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:43 pm

Ken Berger @KBergCBS
League source on Nets reworking Teletovic deal, alleviating hard cap and enhancing Dwight Howard trade prospects: "It's beyond huge."

mhectorgato · Post #190 » by **mhectorgato** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:43 pm

Skin wrote:
mhectorgato wrote:
Skin wrote:The fact that there isn't a single link, source or tweet about ANY other team wanting, going after or showing interest in Jameer says it all. Show me one and I'll back track my statement.

I just hope his money isn't 3 years, $19M. Please tell me that ain't so.

In the other thread there's an on radio report that Portland inquired about Jameer.

Damian Lillard says Hi. Portland wasn't going to give him $20M. You know that. We paid him out of loyalty and desperation. I just hope it was extremely front loaded like you said in the other thread.

Nice backtrack :rolleyes:

Idunkonyou2 · Post #191 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:43 pm

OrlandO wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:
Ken Berger @KBergCBS
Sources: The Nets and Magic "still plugging away" at possible Dwight Howard trade. #NBA http://t.co/yLNIrByD

He also mentions the lakers again. If we're going to trade between those two, it better be for Bynum. Nets haul is utter garbage.

The Nets haul wouldn't be so bad if not for the contracts they would be sending back. KH and Lopez would have to be resigned and you know both will want long term deals.

Obviously getting Bynum is the only to go. He is the 2nd best center in the league and we can build around him easily IMO.

thelead · Post #192 » by **thelead** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:43 pm

I will start up the fire Hennigan thread if our team looks like this next year:

Lopez (at $10 mil per)
Humphries (at $8 mil per)
Hedo
JRich
Jameer

At least our 2003 team had TMac to entertain us...

Idunkonyou2 · Post #193 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:45 pm

I have been saying for while that the Nets and/or Lakers will need to find a 3rd team to take our players and give us back some pieces besides what they are offering.

sChOlaRlY_Magi · Post #194 » by **sChOlaRlY_Magi** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:45 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I wouldn't put it past Devos to have told the Nets to go screw themselves. At this point, I reckon he has had it with players demanding to go wherever they want.

What incentive does Devos have in actually trading Dwight to the Nets? None. He can force Dwight to sit out the year and still be no worse for wear than if he did trade Dwight to the Nets. Magic will suck either way and may get a better Draft Pick by forcing Dwight to walk. Don't give Dwight his cake and let him eat it too. Especially, after he insults the owners and fans of Orlando.

Pimp - If you don't mind me asking, when was it that your mind changed and you no longer thought that, or wanted Dwight to be here?

Also, what do you mean by insult the owners? Was there something specific I missed or just this whole Dwightmare?

MagicTownBaller · Post #195 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:45 pm

Wait, could Brooklyn sign Brook Lopez and Kris Humphries to each one year at $20M each? Then we could take MarShon Brooks, picks, cap relief and give them Howard, Turkoglu, Duhon, J-Rich, and Q-Rich.

Idunkonyou2 · Post #196 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:46 pm

thelead wrote:I will start up the fire Hennigan thread if our team looks like this next year:

Lopez (at $10 mil per)
Humphries (at $8 mil per)
Hedo
Brooks
Jameer

At least our 2003 team had TMac to entertain us...

Fixed, although you can only polish a turd so much.

TDJacksonville · Post #197 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:48 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:Wait, could Brooklyn sign Brook Lopez and Kris Humphries to each one year at $20M each? Then we could take MarShon Brooks, picks, cap relief and give them Howard, Turkoglu, Duhon, J-Rich, and Q-Rich.

that would work short term wise but who do we sign to fill in the depth and bench? sutton, Wayns westbrook would be good on the bench but other than that?

dariusl7 · Post #198 » by **dariusl7** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:49 pm

thelead wrote:I will start up the fire Hennigan thread if our team looks like this next year:

Lopez (at $10 mil per)
Humphries (at $8 mil per)
Hedo
JRich
Jameer

At least our 2003 team had TMac to entertain us...

this roster is spelled Overpaid Mediocracy. No GM's goal is that.

MagicTownBaller · Post #199 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:50 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:Wait, could Brooklyn sign Brook Lopez and Kris Humphries to each one year at $20M each? Then we could take MarShon Brooks, picks, cap relief and give them Howard, Turkoglu, Duhon, J-Rich, and Q-Rich.

that would work short term wise but who do we sign to fill in the depth and bench? sutton, Wayns westbrook would be good on the bench but other than that?

We could use our MLE for a player and sign him to a one year contract. We would suck during that year, but we'd get a high draft pick and some serious cap space.

trebone · Post #200 » by **trebone** » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:51 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:Wait, could Brooklyn sign Brook Lopez and Kris Humphries to each one year at $20M each? Then we could take MarShon Brooks, picks, cap relief and give them Howard, Turkoglu, Duhon, J-Rich, and Q-Rich.

that would work short term wise but who do we sign to fill in the depth and bench? sutton, Wayns westbrook would be good on the bench but other than that?

that wouldnt be bad IMO, we would have tons of space next offseason and if they threw in 3 or 4 future picks I could get behind that, sign JoshSmith/Iggy/Monta next summer and be bad enough this year to get a very high lottery pick Neal/Shabaz