Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edition)

Floridharkless · Post #181 » by **Floridharkless** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 4:04 pm

Hi everybody, it's my first message on the forum I read you since few month, I finally decided to create an account. I'll introduce myself quickly. I'm french Magic fan since 2003, I live in Paris and despite games are durint the night, I watch all of them, except when I work early the morning...

So, my point of view for the next draft. If we are the first pick, I prefer to take McLemore over Noel. Because our frontcourt is good and young (Harris, Nicholson, Vucevic, O'Quinn plus BBDavis who is not to bad). But if we pick a PG, i want Burke over Smart. OK Smart is a good defender, more taller than Burke.
But his defeat against Oregon in the round of 64 we must interpellate. Many tunorvers, bad percentage if he has to difficult against the Ducks defense and in general the pac 12 defenses, he may struggle in the NBA on the offensive end.

Burke is a pure PG. The more dominant argument against him is his height. But what is the height of Chris Paul, Ty Lawson, Tony Parker, Rajon Rondo etc???

PS: excuse me for my english not so good.

InFlames · Post #182 » by **InFlames** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 4:32 pm

Floridharkless wrote:Hi everybody, it's my first message on the forum I read you since few month, I finally decided to create an account. I'll introduce myself quickly. I'm french Magic fan since 2003, I live in Paris and despite games are durint the night, I watch all of them, except when I work early the morning...

So, my point of view for the next draft. If we are the first pick, I prefer to take McLemore over Noel. Because our frontcourt is good and young (Harris, Nicholson, Vucevic, O'Quinn plus BBDavis who is not to bad). But if we pick a PG, i want Burke over Smart. OK Smart is a good defender, more taller than Burke.
But his defeat against Oregon in the round of 64 we must interpellate. Many tunorvers, bad percentage if he has to difficult against the Ducks defense and in general the pac 12 defenses, he may struggle in the NBA on the offensive end.

Burke is a pure PG. The more dominant argument against him is his height. But what is the height of Chris Paul, Ty Lawson, Tony Parker, Rajon Rondo etc???

PS: excuse me for my english not so good.

Welcome.

BadMofoPimp · Post #183 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 4:45 pm

Floridharkless wrote:Hi everybody, it's my first message on the forum I read you since few month, I finally decided to create an account. I'll introduce myself quickly. I'm french Magic fan since 2003, I live in Paris and despite games are durint the night, I watch all of them, except when I work early the morning...

So, my point of view for the next draft. If we are the first pick, I prefer to take McLemore over Noel. Because our frontcourt is good and young (Harris, Nicholson, Vucevic, O'Quinn plus BBDavis who is not to bad). But if we pick a PG, i want Burke over Smart. OK Smart is a good defender, more taller than Burke.
But his defeat against Oregon in the round of 64 we must interpellate. Many tunorvers, bad percentage if he has to difficult against the Ducks defense and in general the pac 12 defenses, he may struggle in the NBA on the offensive end.

Burke is a pure PG. The more dominant argument against him is his height. But what is the height of Chris Paul, Ty Lawson, Tony Parker, Rajon Rondo etc???

I agree with everything you said. Welcome to the best NBA forums on the net.

I Rasharted · Post #184 » by **I Rasharted** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 4:52 pm

RYgoBOOM wrote:If we deal AA or BBD for another pick would you guys be for taking McLemore and then the best PG left with whatever pick we got? McLemore at 1 or 2 and then burke at 9-10?

How in the hell does anyone here think AA or BBD are worth a lottery pick? What the crap? Hello? Bueller? Reality? Bueller?

I Rasharted · Post #185 » by **I Rasharted** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 4:53 pm

MagicFan32 wrote:why are you guys even getting into these long winded debates, before we even know where we are picking? much less the combine, pre draft workouts, etc.

Shhhh, they're having fun.

KillMonger · Post #186 » by **KillMonger** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 6:19 pm

I honestly don't think we're going to get the number one pick anyway in this draft I'm thinking we get anywhere from 3~5. So question is would you draft Burke in that range?

BadMofoPimp · Post #187 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 6:22 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:I honestly don't think we're going to get the number one pick anyway in this draft I'm thinking we get anywhere from 3~5. So question is would you draft Burke in that range?

Yes. If he is still available.

KillMonger · Post #188 » by **KillMonger** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 6:32 pm

Someone sell me on mclemore

Cigamodnalro · Post #189 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 6:33 pm

AA is definitely worth a lotto pick. BBD not so much.

KingRobb02 · Post #190 » by **KingRobb02** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:17 pm

Cigamodnalro wrote:AA is definitely worth a lotto pick. BBD not so much.

Just no

tranjSAIC · Post #191 » by **tranjSAIC** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:32 pm

I Rasharted wrote:
MagicFan32 wrote:why are you guys even getting into these long winded debates, before we even know where we are picking? much less the combine, pre draft workouts, etc.

Shhhh, they're having fun.

What else are Magic fans going to talk about right now?

IllMagic04 · Post #192 » by **IllMagic04** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:32 pm

Floridharkless wrote:Hi everybody, it's my first message on the forum I read you since few month, I finally decided to create an account. I'll introduce myself quickly. I'm french Magic fan since 2003, I live in Paris and despite games are durint the night, I watch all of them, except when I work early the morning...

So, my point of view for the next draft. If we are the first pick, I prefer to take McLemore over Noel. Because our frontcourt is good and young (Harris, Nicholson, Vucevic, O'Quinn plus BBDavis who is not to bad). But if we pick a PG, i want Burke over Smart. OK Smart is a good defender, more taller than Burke.
But his defeat against Oregon in the round of 64 we must interpellate. Many tunorvers, bad percentage if he has to difficult against the Ducks defense and in general the pac 12 defenses, he may struggle in the NBA on the offensive end.

Burke is a pure PG. The more dominant argument against him is his height. But what is the height of Chris Paul, Ty Lawson, Tony Parker, Rajon Rondo etc???

PS: excuse me for my english not so good.

Welcome to the forums. I agree with most of what you said. Only thing I disagree with is saying you would pass on Noel because our front court is good.Cant think like that with the number 1 pick. If you just dont think Noel is the best player on the board or you have concerns with his kneee thats fine. But you dont pass on a guy that could be special defensive player because we have Kyle O'Quinn and BBD. But I agree 100% about Burke. I want Burke no matter where we pick. If he is on the board we should take him and not look back.

londoncollin · Post #193 » by **londoncollin** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:33 pm

This is gunna be another Howard/Okafor offseason, isn't it?

Cigamodnalro wrote:AA is definitely worth a lotto pick. BBD not so much.

JJ wasn't worth a late first.

tranjSAIC · Post #194 » by **tranjSAIC** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:33 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:Someone sell me on mclemore

I can't do it, other then being a great athlete and having a nice looking jumper, he doesn't do jack and disappears wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much.

Neon1 · Post #195 » by **Neon1** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:55 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:Someone sell me on mclemore

1. When he is open he shoots real nice.
2. On the few time he gets near the rim with no traffic he dunks real nice.
3. He is 6'4.5" 185 pounds, BUT that is much better then 6'3.5" and 175 pounds.

The end.

Post #196 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:56 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:Someone sell me on mclemore

Could potentially be JJ Redick with hops.

BadMofoPimp · Post #197 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:56 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:Someone sell me on mclemore

He thinks yer cute.

BadMofoPimp · Post #198 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:58 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:Someone sell me on mclemore

He isn't recovering from his 2nd serious knee injury that cost him over a year of action each time in 4 years.

gaspar · Post #199 » by **gaspar** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:58 pm

David Aldridge's SG Big Board | NBA.com

"He's the closest thing to Ray Allen, but Ray Allen stayed in school three years," a Western Conference general manager said of McLemore. "Today's basketball is a little different; you talk about potential and projection. But he has all the tools. Whatever Ray has, he has. Ray didn't jump; this kid can jump. This kid can fly."

"People are killing [McLemore] because he can't put the ball on the floor that well and he doesn't assert himself," the Central Division man said. "My argument would be he didn't play last year [McLemore redshirted at Kansas] and he's young. People compare him to Ray Allen. The kid already puts it on the floor better than Ray Allen ever did, and he shoots it just as well. And Ray Allen has been a star in our league for how many years?"

toquito · Post #200 » by **toquito** » Tue Apr 9, 2013 7:58 pm

tranjSAIC wrote:
Bobby Ray wrote:Someone sell me on mclemore

I can't do it, other then being a great athlete and having a nice looking jumper, he doesn't do jack and disappears wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much.

Plus Matt Goukas doesn't think he's worth a top 5 pick. Would be too weird having him on the Magic after that