Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIV "Lottery/Draft"Edition)

[Bensational]

Seriously can anyone name a big with injury problems like noels who actually had a legit nba career?

Blake Griffin coming.

[InFlames]

Seriously can anyone name a big with injury problems like noels who actually had a legit nba career?

Blake Griffin, Al Jefferson, Al Harrington, David West, Kendrick Perkins. I feel like a broken record repeating this again, but ACL tears are nothing like they used to be.

[glennathan]

Yea sorry glennathan wasn't trying to have a go just wanted to see why you thought so highly of him. I tend to agree with Neon1 he shot poorly especially from 3 he has a goodish handle but nothing great, i do agree that if he's playing pg he is a big Pg with good vision however he tended to play more off ball from what i saw of timberwolves games that however may have more to do with the fact that they were so riddled with injuries on the wings. Also iirc he's not that young hes already 24/25ish.

No apology necessary. You asked for my opinion and I replied. As for the way the T-Wolves used him as a SG I thought it was horrible as well. He is not a scorer. He is a distributor like Udrih. If he came here it would have to be in the backup PG role. Wolves used him as a wing player and that is not his game.

[Skin]

I have a better question. Can anyone name a big who was uncoordinated and awkward with the ball offensively and then became coordinated and offensively reliable down the line?

Please don't say Dwight Howard. While a little improved, the guy's offensive coordination is still a joke today. Can't even dribble 3 times without getting the ball stolen.

[NEM]

I have a better question. Can anyone name a big who was uncoordinated and awkward with the ball offensively and then became coordinated and offensively reliable down the line?

Please don't say Dwight Howard. While a little improved, the guy's offensive coordination is still a joke today. Can't even dribble 3 times without getting the ball stolen.

If you draft Noel, it is not for his offense. His offense will come off offensive boards and put backs... You will never see a play run for him, that's why vuc is there. He is your offensive big, and Noel is your defensive big. It makes too much sense IMO. The complement each other perfectly. Two seven footers with opposite skill sets on the floor at the same time... That would be a disaster for the opposition...

[NEM]

Examples of this are Tyson chandler, Larry sanders, serge ibaka... They never have plays called for them but are forces on the court because of their defense

[Skin]

I have a better question. Can anyone name a big who was uncoordinated and awkward with the ball offensively and then became coordinated and offensively reliable down the line?

Please don't say Dwight Howard. While a little improved, the guy's offensive coordination is still a joke today. Can't even dribble 3 times without getting the ball stolen.

If you draft Noel, it is not for his offense. His offense will come off offensive boards and put backs... You will never see a play run for him, that's why vuc is there. He is your offensive big, and Noel is your defensive big. It makes too much sense IMO. The complement each other perfectly. Two seven footers with opposite skill sets on the floor at the same time... That would be a disaster for the opposition...

I am a very big fan of the twin towers approach.

I just think for that kind of player, you don't have to spend the #1 overall pick on. You can find tall shot blockers/rebounders in Round 2.

[InFlames]

I have a better question. Can anyone name a big who was uncoordinated and awkward with the ball offensively and then became coordinated and offensively reliable down the line?

Please don't say Dwight Howard. While a little improved, the guy's offensive coordination is still a joke today. Can't even dribble 3 times without getting the ball stolen.

Why would we care at all about his offense? If he can dunk and catch lobs that's all that matters. His defense is game changing and if he develops even a decent offensive game that is just a plus.

[KingRobb02]

I have a better question. Can anyone name a big who was uncoordinated and awkward with the ball offensively and then became coordinated and offensively reliable down the line?

Please don't say Dwight Howard. While a little improved, the guy's offensive coordination is still a joke today. Can't even dribble 3 times without getting the ball stolen.

If you draft Noel, it is not for his offense. His offense will come off offensive boards and put backs... You will never see a play run for him, that's why vuc is there. He is your offensive big, and Noel is your defensive big. It makes too much sense IMO. The complement each other perfectly. Two seven footers with opposite skill sets on the floor at the same time... That would be a disaster for the opposition...

I am a very big fan of the twin towers approach.

I just think for that kind of player, you don't have to spend the #1 overall pick on. You can find tall shot blockers/rebounders in Round 2.

How many second round post players are playing 30 minutes per game in today's NBA?

[rcklsscognition]

I think I saw someone mention getting rid of Jameer next year to help us out for 2014. But I was thinking, if we could get rid of just 1 player, which player would be the best person to trade? My answer is Glen Davis. Why?

1) Glen Davis is a good team defender. Having him around allows Vucevic to get lazy on D. We don't want that.
2) Glen Davis is a volume scorer. Having him around leaves less shots for our core guys.
3) Glen Davis is a black hole. Having him around messes up our offense and doesn't allow our young guys to learn plays.
4) Glen Davis plays a position we have 2 possible stud players: Harris and Nicholson. Having him around takes minutes away from those guys.

If we draft Noel, we will have 3 months or more to play Harris and Nicholson at the 4 before we can put one of them on the market. We wouldn't need Noel, Harris, and Nicholson.

If we draft Burke, we can shop Jameer at the trade deadline to a contender and allow them both to share the position for the first half of the season. If we can't trade 'Meer by then, give him the backup role and move him in the offseason.

If we draft Mclemore, we have a logjam at the 2/3/4 and must move Glen Davis.

[InFlames]

I think I saw someone mention getting rid of Jameer next year to help us out for 2014. But I was thinking, if we could get rid of just 1 player, which player would be the best person to trade? My answer is Glen Davis. Why?

1) Glen Davis is a good team defender. Having him around allows Vucevic to get lazy on D. We don't want that.
2) Glen Davis is a volume scorer. Having him around leaves less shots for our core guys.
3) Glen Davis is a black hole. Having him around messes up our offense and doesn't allow our young guys to learn plays.
4) Glen Davis plays a position we have 2 possible stud players: Harris and Nicholson. Having him around takes minutes away from those guys.

If we draft Noel, we will have 3 months or more to play Harris and Nicholson at the 4 before we can put one of them on the market. We wouldn't need Noel, Harris, and Nicholson.

If we draft Burke, we can shop Jameer at the trade deadline to a contender and allow them both to share the position for the first half of the season. If we can't trade 'Meer by then, give him the backup role and move him in the offseason.

If we draft Mclemore, we have a logjam at the 2/3/4 and must move Glen Davis.

If we draft Noel, we just move Harris to the 3 and Harkless to the 2. If AA is still here, he would start at the 2 with Harkless being the first off the bench...this is all assuming Noel starts, which won't even happen for a while into the season.

[Skin]

If you draft Noel, it is not for his offense. His offense will come off offensive boards and put backs... You will never see a play run for him, that's why vuc is there. He is your offensive big, and Noel is your defensive big. It makes too much sense IMO. The complement each other perfectly. Two seven footers with opposite skill sets on the floor at the same time... That would be a disaster for the opposition...

I am a very big fan of the twin towers approach.

I just think for that kind of player, you don't have to spend the #1 overall pick on. You can find tall shot blockers/rebounders in Round 2.

How many second round post players are playing 30 minutes per game in today's NBA?

Ridiculous.. Not even Larry Sanders, Roy Hibbert, Javale McGee, Anthony Davis, DeAndre Jordan averaged 30 min a game this season.

[KillMonger]

Wait so we draft Noel with intentions to keep him? Seriously??

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[Skin]

Wait so we draft Noel with intentions to keep him? Seriously??

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He's not a player teams want to trade up for. So it'd be more like we'd be stuck with him.

I'm hoping Hennigan is wiser than that.

[pogiro]

I have a better question. Can anyone name a big who was uncoordinated and awkward with the ball offensively and then became coordinated and offensively reliable down the line?

Please don't say Dwight Howard. While a little improved, the guy's offensive coordination is still a joke today. Can't even dribble 3 times without getting the ball stolen.

With the likes of Tobias and Vucevic, we can afford Noel to come along slowly and even settle as a 4th or 5th option. But he'll be the cornerstone of our defense and makes up for what Vucevic lacks. If we have a supporting cast of Tobias, Harkless, Noel, and Vucevic, we'll lure a max FA easy.

[InFlames]

Wait so we draft Noel with intentions to keep him? Seriously??

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Of course we would keep him. He is the best prospect in the draft.

[magicman123]

I have a better question. Can anyone name a big who was uncoordinated and awkward with the ball offensively and then became coordinated and offensively reliable down the line?

Please don't say Dwight Howard. While a little improved, the guy's offensive coordination is still a joke today. Can't even dribble 3 times without getting the ball stolen.

If you draft Noel, it is not for his offense. His offense will come off offensive boards and put backs... You will never see a play run for him, that's why vuc is there. He is your offensive big, and Noel is your defensive big. It makes too much sense IMO. The complement each other perfectly. Two seven footers with opposite skill sets on the floor at the same time... That would be a disaster for the opposition...

I am a very big fan of the twin towers approach.

I just think for that kind of player, you don't have to spend the #1 overall pick on. You can find tall shot blockers/rebounders in Round 2.

If that's the case we can find under sized non athletic point guards in rd 2?

[KillMonger]

Wait so we draft Noel with intentions to keep him? Seriously??

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Of course we would keep him. He is the best prospect in the draft.

even if we get the top pick which I think we won't I'm not sold him, to me he's at least a 5~6 year project and that's if he stays healthy. Why take that high a risk simply because he's the "bpa" by default. Be honest Noel is projected number one not because he separates himself from the pack. It's simply just based off potential alone imo

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[InFlames]

Wait so we draft Noel with intentions to keep him? Seriously??

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Of course we would keep him. He is the best prospect in the draft.

even if we get the top pick which I think we won't I'm not sold him, to me he's at least a 5~6 year project and that's if he stays healthy. Why take that high a risk simply because he's the "bpa" by default. Be honest Noel is projected number one not because he separates himself from the pack. It's simply just based off potential alone imo

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Noel and McLemore are the two players in the draft with the most potential to be a star. He has a high floor and incredibly high ceiling. I don't consider it a risk to take him because acl tears in this age aren't even bad. There is a 96-98% of a player injuring his acl to returning to their sport.

I wan't Noel because he is one of only two potential game changers in the draft, that is why he is the consensus #1 pick.

[Skin]

How are Andrew Bynum's ACL's coming along these days?

I think it's a completely different story when you're talking about 7 footers. The knees have to hold up so much more body frame.