Zmill wrote:doct3r dr3 wrote:
just like doron lamb and john jenkins and kim english...
And Ray Allen, Jason Richardson, Klay Thompson, Brad Beal, etc. Not sure what your point is. You don't think that production varies amongst off-the-ball scorers like every other type of playstyle in the NBA? Or you just don't think that off-the-ball scorers are valuable?
sure, there are degrees of ability at each playstyle, but that's not even the reason why those guys you mention are better than eddie house & co. the main reason guys like ray allen are able to excel is because they can do things besides just score off the ball and hit freethrows. all of those guys have at least some ballhandling ability, some shot creating ability and enough size and willingness to defend their man well enough to stay on the floor.
It seems like you don't value production as a freshman/underclassmen the same way I do (citing Lamb, English, ETwaun Moore, Jenkins, having a Nicholson sig, etc) so I think we judge prospects differently.
class year (freshman, sophomore, etc.) isn't as important as age is. mclemore red-shirted his freshman year and started late so he's already 20; older than maurice harkless. he's only about 3 months younger than lamb was when he got drafted, and e'twaun and jenkins had very similar numbers to mclemore at around the same age in their freshman/sophomore years. [in nicholson's case, age really counts against him because he was not only a senior, but on the older side of ~22 his senior year. but he gets a pass because he's been playing basketball such an incredibly short time (since junior year of h.s.) that his growth curve and potential is still off the charts.]
Can't wait to see how things are gonna go on Draft Night
