Orlando Magic Free Agency Guide (Cap Info UPDATED page 37)

[monchief]

I'm not suggesting we trade him for fun, but if we got Conley it's worth calling around and seeing what teams may eye Payton. Because we'd still have Watson as a backup.

Conley is 28, so in 2-3 years as the Magic roster enters their prime, he'll be fading. This is why its crucial to keep EP in that scenario. Just as EP's shot and skill level is developed and entering his prime, Conley's is fading and thus can recede to backup while EP takes the reigns as starter. Its kind of perfect.

Exactly. EP is a professional and would benefit the most by learning from a vet like Conley. I believe that conley still has a good 2-3 years to be playing at this level. This is enough time for EP to be developing coming off that bench and improving his shot, ft shooting, and passing.

Next to Kwahi Leonard, Conley is the most underrated player in the NBA. He has been for years bc he plays for a small market team and when your in a conference with showtime guys like Westbrook, Curry, Lillard, and CP3, he is easily overshadowed. The man has game and would be in the perfect situation for us. He is no superstar but just a smart player and a leader. Its a perfect fit.

I'm on board the Conley at a max, Barnes at a near max. Both fit our team long and short term needs. I'm scared of Horford. He's a great player, but he is aging, and his game keeps creeping away from the basket. With the drift to smallball, I'm not sure he's even a great option at PF. I think he's a better C.

As for draft... BPA. A (likely) lottery team with a lot of questions still remaining short and long term at nearly every position is in no place to choose a pick based on fit.

Im not. Sorry but Barnes is not a max player. He is a system player. Playing alongside curry makes him look like a max. If the Warriors win again(prob will), they will match any offer for him.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but Barnes isn't going to come to Orlando unless he gets paid more than what the rest of the market offers him. Orlando is going to have to pony up cash to get FAs. Moreso than other teams. It's just business.

[BadMofoPimp]

Barnes wouldn't even look good on a team without All-Stars.

[jezzer45]

Harrison barnes may not be max worthy player but the market is dictating he is. Cant get caught up with who is worth what because then you miss out on players. Remember just this past off season wes matthews who just came off huge surgey got max and near max offers (dallas, sac)

[ezzzp]

Penny Hardaway on Mike Conley’s future in Memphis: “It’s not really about the money, it’s about ‘This is his team.’ The franchise has definitely told him ‘Hey, we’re behind you, we’d trade everyone else…’ They even traded Kyle Lowry, and Kyle Lowry is playing great. He’s an All-Star now. They traded everybody to keep Mike happy. They letting Mike know ‘This is your team, and we want you to be the future’. Mike probably will stay with them.”

https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/penny-hardaway-on-mike-conleys-future-in-memphis

Grizzlies Ed Stefanski tells @Frank Isola & @Mitch Lawrence they didn’t try to trade Mike Conley & expect to keep him. “We love Mike Conley he’s one of the best PGs out there..we intend to do everything we can to keep him” ...“He’ll go on free agent tours but when it’s all said and done I fully expect him (Mike Conley) to be in a #Grizzlies uniform” Ed Stefanski

https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/we-never-tried-to-trade-mike-conley-and-expect-him-to-stay-in-memphis-ed-stefanski

[ezzzp]

Soon-to-be free agent Hassan Whiteside expressed some encouraging sentiments today about his future with Miami, as The Herald’s Manny Navarro relays (Twitter link). “I feel comfortable as long as I’ve got a Heat jersey on,” Whiteside said. “Coming off the bench, starting, I just love playing for this team.”

http://www.hoopsrumors.com

[ezzzp]

"If I'm going to be a foundation piece and a centerpiece, we need to figure out how we can be on the same page and have the same belief and respect for one another. I just would hope my coach would have the same confidence and respect in my abilities that I do." Carlisle has bristled at suggestions that he doesn't believe Parsons has franchise-player potential. Carlisle has noted that he made managing expectations for Parsons a priority to protect a player coming off a serious operation.

Parsons' scoring average and shot attempts have increased each month this season as his health has improved. Since January, Carlisle has used Parsons as a small-ball power forward when Dirk Nowitzki rests -- evidence that Carlisle is seeking ways to expand Parsons' role. Carlisle, who has invested an extraordinary amount of time and effort into working individually with Parsons, leaves no doubt that he hopes to coach him for years to come.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14871511/dallas-mavericks-scared-losing-chandler-parsons-offseason

[Mc-o]

Looks more and more like henny is not going to get to crazy this offseason

[ezzzp]

Looks more and more like henny is not going to get to crazy this offseason

Right now everyone is saying the right things...nobody wants to rock the boat with so many games yet to be played - including playoff games.

The ugly starts to show when teams get beat in the post season - especially if its an early exit.

[rmfc]

Parsons would be a fantastic addition to the Magic team. You have to wonder what that means to one of the young guys on the team.

[ezzzp]

Parsons would be a fantastic addition to the Magic team. You have to wonder what that means to one of the young guys on the team.

I doubt he opts out.

Opting in gives him the biggest potential payday next summer. He keeps the the guaranteed 16m from next year, then signs the much bigger max contract (with the salary cap going up) + Dallas will have earned his bird rights so they can give him the extra year and higher 7% annual raises.

[ezzzp]

Fournier is having his best season as a pro and hopes to parlay it into his first significant multi-year contract.

"Hopefully, yeah," said Fournier, when asked if he would like to re-sign with the Magic. "I really like to play for this team. I'm having my best year so far. There's no reason for me to leave.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/os-orlando-magic-news-0302-20160301-story.html

[Blue_and_Whte]

This is the boring part of free agency, Wait until the offseason. That's when players tell us how they really feel.

[Blue_and_Whte]

The more struggles in okc the better.

[Furinkazan]

soo if some of you would like to sign Horford + Parsons where does that leave AG?

[Shady Franchise]

azwfan wrote:

Left*My*Heart wrote:
If we re-sign Barnes for over 20 m a season, the front office is going to pay for it down the road.

I truly believe this is Barnes last season in a Warriors uni.



Yeah, if he signs for more than 12-14m i can see him being the most hated Warrior. I went from thinking he was still promising to looking at the cheapest of replacements as "not much of a downgrade" in less than half a season.



Such a disappointment not seeing HB improve (at all) this year... Perfect opportunity to step up when Steph was out yesterday vs Hawks, but alas, outside of a few rebounds and put backs, nada.

The team that signs HB to a max contract is going to endure a rude awakening discovering he's already reached his ceiling.

My only concern is who the Dubs could possibly sign for a comparable contract amount without losing his mediocre production and defensive versatility, assuming we strike out on KD. I imagine we'll be matching whatever offer sheet HB is ultimately tendered

Let's move past this guy......to greener pastures!

[ezzzp]

azwfan wrote:

Left*My*Heart wrote:
If we re-sign Barnes for over 20 m a season, the front office is going to pay for it down the road.

I truly believe this is Barnes last season in a Warriors uni.

Yeah, if he signs for more than 12-14m i can see him being the most hated Warrior. I went from thinking he was still promising to looking at the cheapest of replacements as "not much of a downgrade" in less than half a season.

Such a disappointment not seeing HB improve (at all) this year... Perfect opportunity to step up when Steph was out yesterday vs Hawks, but alas, outside of a few rebounds and put backs, nada.

The team that signs HB to a max contract is going to endure a rude awakening discovering he's already reached his ceiling.

My only concern is who the Dubs could possibly sign for a comparable contract amount without losing his mediocre production and defensive versatility, assuming we strike out on KD. I imagine we'll be matching whatever offer sheet HB is ultimately tendered

Let's move past this guy......to greener pastures!

I trust Rob Hennigan's expertise. If he overpays him its because he thinks he is worth it and because that is the amount that it will take to pry him loose.

One of the things I like about paying Barnes vs paying Fournier is that he is a true SF that can defend 2-4 well. He is very strong, long 6-11 wingspan and great quickness/lateral speed.

He is also a very good shooter with a great form. His biggest criticism is that he is not a playmaker or a go to guy. But I feel that is what Mario will eventually be for us. Hezonja | Barnes | Gordon is a long, agile and super athletic trio that could be tremendous defensively.

[Patrick1978]

azwfan wrote:

Left*My*Heart wrote:
If we re-sign Barnes for over 20 m a season, the front office is going to pay for it down the road.

I truly believe this is Barnes last season in a Warriors uni.

Yeah, if he signs for more than 12-14m i can see him being the most hated Warrior. I went from thinking he was still promising to looking at the cheapest of replacements as "not much of a downgrade" in less than half a season.

Such a disappointment not seeing HB improve (at all) this year... Perfect opportunity to step up when Steph was out yesterday vs Hawks, but alas, outside of a few rebounds and put backs, nada.

The team that signs HB to a max contract is going to endure a rude awakening discovering he's already reached his ceiling.

My only concern is who the Dubs could possibly sign for a comparable contract amount without losing his mediocre production and defensive versatility, assuming we strike out on KD. I imagine we'll be matching whatever offer sheet HB is ultimately tendered

Let's move past this guy......to greener pastures!

I trust Rob Hennigan's expertise. If he overpays him its because he thinks he is worth it and because that is the amount that it will take to pry him loose.

One of the things I like about paying Barnes vs paying Fournier is that he is a true SF that can defend 2-4 well. He is very strong, long 6-11 wingspan and great quickness/lateral speed.

He is also a very good shooter with a great form. His biggest criticism is that he is not a playmaker or a go to guy. But I feel that is what Mario will eventually be for us. Hezonja | Barnes | Gordon is a long, agile and super athletic trio that could be tremendous defensively.

I agree with you. Barnes would be a great addition.
If not barnes i want batum.
I am not so high on parsons.
Who Do you want in the draft?

[cedric76]

Let's move past this guy......to greener pastures!

I trust Rob Hennigan's expertise. If he overpays him its because he thinks he is worth it and because that is the amount that it will take to pry him loose.

One of the things I like about paying Barnes vs paying Fournier is that he is a true SF that can defend 2-4 well. He is very strong, long 6-11 wingspan and great quickness/lateral speed.

He is also a very good shooter with a great form. His biggest criticism is that he is not a playmaker or a go to guy. But I feel that is what Mario will eventually be for us. Hezonja | Barnes | Gordon is a long, agile and super athletic trio that could be tremendous defensively.

I agree with you. Barnes would be a great addition.
If not barnes i want batum.
I am not so high on parsons.
Who Do you want in the draft?

Funny, I was pushing for a Harris for batum last season and people called me mad and Nico was done

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[axl_c_cool]

I watched Barnes last night and I think he would really fit this core, could we sign and trade Fournier for him? They can then move Iggy to start and Fournier off the bench


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[Blue_and_Whte]

soo if some of you would like to sign Horford + Parsons where does that leave AG?

I wouldn't. I don't think either guy turns us into a contender and it creates a log jam just when two of our younger players are starting to turn the corner while making us better but not great imo. Could be wrong though. Parsons just recreates the log jam at SF imo.