Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks

purpleswordfish · Post #181 » by **purpleswordfish** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:50 pm

Well, they've done it, they've made the Magic the worst roster in the league.

PrimeThyme · Post #182 » by **PrimeThyme** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:51 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:Well with Vuc gone im doubtfull we win another game this season. Not even joking either

Yeah, I believe that was one of the main selling points of making the trade.

Anti Chalmers · Post #183 » by **Anti Chalmers** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:51 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:Well with Vuc gone im doubtfull we win another game this season. Not even joking either

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That’s a good thing. I rather have a top 4 pick than the 10th pick.

Optimus_Steel · Post #184 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:52 pm

purpleswordfish wrote:Well, they've done it, they've made the Magic the worst roster in the league.

Wasn't that hard....

pepe1991 · Post #185 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:52 pm

Ugh , Wendell Carter also has longer history of injuries.. Jesus Christ...

JF5 · Post #186 » by **JF5** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:52 pm

Did someone say that this opens 2 max slots for Star players?!?!?! :lol:

This is a small market team with no Star players right now going through a rebuild. :lol:

I can't stop laughing at that sentiment.

I'm happy about the haul though. This is pretty decent (IMO)

MoMM · Post #187 » by **MoMM** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:52 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:starting point guard: Bacon ( Pancetta )
starting SG: well.. i don't know... some G league body
starting SF: nobody, Otto Porter will probably ask for buyout
starting PF : okeke
Starting center. Wendell Carter Jr who we could draft anyway

ah
what a joy

I'm not watching magic game any time soon

The funniest part is that we traded for WCJ. So we still aren't going to see Bamba play. That shows you how high the two people who even drafted him are on his long-term prospects.

This to me was a further indictment on him as a player.

Yea that notion got laugh out of me.
We traded Vuc and in return we added player who was drafted after Bamba as we viewed Bamba as better prospect.
irony of terrible 2018 season is too strong

We are the new Baby Bulls (Chandler and Curry).

cedric76 · Post #188 » by **cedric76** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:52 pm

Fultz,cole
Rookie,ross
Otto,Chuma
JI,WCJ
MO,WCJ

I love it so far

Move under the cap
Plenty assets

AG next

pepe1991 · Post #189 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:53 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:
IllMagic04 wrote:Well with Vuc gone im doubtfull we win another game this season. Not even joking either

Yeah, I believe that was one of the main selling points of making the trade.

It's still very dangerious thing to do. Teams that do complete bottom out have least sucess rate percentage vise. Based on some huge study, almost no team ever went from being the worst team in basketball to contender over next 5 years.

But time will tell.

MoMM · Post #190 » by **MoMM** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:53 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Ugh , Wendell Carter also has longer history of injuries.. Jesus Christ...

So he is in the right place, the retirement state, right?

Husky1 · Post #191 » by **Husky1** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:53 pm

Spoiler:

Mauro Pedrosa wrote:I like the 1st rounders. Credit where credit is due, at least the front office blew it up. No criticism from me for the next 3 to 4 years

Massive +1 for me too. I’m stoked with moves so far. Just gives us a direction and creates so many options. This is the highest value we would of got for Vooch. I couldn’t watch this current product any longer. I’m in for this, let’s go

Optimus_Steel · Post #192 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:53 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Ugh , Wendell Carter also has longer history of injuries.. Jesus Christ...

So you are saying he fits in??? An injured big to go along with the others.

Last Guardian · Post #193 » by **Last Guardian** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:54 pm

The Effect wrote:People can be mad at the returns all they want, but bigger picture is that we are under a full on rebuild

We all said, every single one of us, that this team as constructed when healthy was no better than a 5-6 seed.......so why bother continuing with the nonsense, tear it down, start over from scratch and build around JI, fultz, cole, chuma and hopefully cade cunningham or jalen green!

I agree that rebuilding is the way to go obviously this team wasn’t going anywhere. The complaints are that management should have known this before instead of waiting until the last minute.

The Effect · Post #194 » by **The Effect** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:54 pm

MoMM wrote:
The Effect wrote:People can be mad at the returns all they want, but bigger picture is that we are under a full on rebuild

We all said, every single one of us, that this team as constructed when healthy was no better than a 5-6 seed.......so why bother continuing with the nonsense, tear it down, start over from scratch and build around JI, fultz, cole, chuma and hopefully cade cunningham or jalen green!

We add any of them + our injured players + Vuc/Ross and we have a Top 4 team in the East.

Doubt it

Vuc
JI
Cade
Fultz
Cole

with Ross and CHuma on the bench is NOT a top 4 seed. That team is not better then the bucks\76ers\nets\Heats\celtics, so at best it would be a 5th seed, but the hornets are a young team with alot of talent, they likely will be a top 5-6 seed next year, the raptors are down this year, but i trust their GM to rebuild that team quickly, the hawks are in a similar boat as the hornets

SO keeping vuc, ross and vets to met just gets us into the 6-8 range and still way behind the top 5 teams

MoMM · Post #195 » by **MoMM** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:54 pm

Anti Chalmers wrote:
IllMagic04 wrote:Well with Vuc gone im doubtfull we win another game this season. Not even joking either

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That’s a good thing. I rather have a top 4 pick than the 10th pick.

Because our team with Vuc was going to almost make the playoffs, right?

Post #196 » by **Knightro** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:54 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #197 » by **FFBlitzace** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:54 pm

How much were we realistically expecting to get back for him? He's a good player but you wouldn't trade the farm for him. And trading him for picks is better than trading him for another fringe allstar to take his place as perpetual tank commander.

jonbob17 · Post #198 » by **jonbob17** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:54 pm

Just think of it this way. We could have not re-signed Vuc 2 years ago and lost him for nothing, like a lot of fans wished for at the time. Instead we offered him the most money. The contract raised eyebrows around the league at the time.

Now we have two firsts, a recent high draft pick center who has plenty of value even if he hasn't realized his potential (talking about Carter this time), and all of our cap space back

AND this should hopefully help us win the race to the bottom and secure a top 5 pick, WHICH WOULD BE WAY MORE VALUABLE THAN VUC ALONE.

BlueBalls · Post #199 » by **BlueBalls** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:54 pm

Love the Vic return but 2 2nds for Fornier?? Crappy return

The Effect · Post #200 » by **The Effect** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:55 pm

cedric76 wrote:Fultz,cole
Rookie,ross
Otto,Chuma
JI,WCJ
MO,WCJ

I love it so far

Move under the cap
Plenty assets

AG next

Otto is an expiring deal, i doubt he stays for this season (trade or buy out?) let alone coming back next year